lou Posted 16 May 2009 Posted 16 May 2009 £45,000 a week and shit training facilities or £30,000 a week with state of the art facilities? you choose.When you've chosen the higher waged option and are introduced to the press and public you're hardly likely to diss the facilities are you. You carry on believing everything you hear men say and you'll learn soon enough........ Youre using that line on a 42 year old whos been married twice - I nearly wet myself laughing!!! I dont believe a single word any man says Hull are splashing out big money that we cant afford. No you wouldnt "diss" them but you just wouldnt mention them would you?
TrickyTrev Posted 16 May 2009 Posted 16 May 2009 They have said they are looking to acquire new land and to build a new complex. I have no doubt they believe they can make a profit from this, but I don't think we are going to end up at Loughborough Uni. (For anything more than a transition period)
lou Posted 16 May 2009 Posted 16 May 2009 They have said they are looking to acquire new land and to build a new complex. I have no doubt they believe they can make a profit from this, but I don't think we are going to end up at Loughborough Uni. (For anything more than a transition period) They trained a lot of the time at Loughborough the last season or two. Cant see them getting anyone to buy it for housing anytime soon as all the major housebuilders have loads of land already stockpiled that they cant build on because they cant sell the ones theyve already built!
Hullfox Posted 16 May 2009 Posted 16 May 2009 I dont believe a single word any man says Except the hundreds of footballers who have said they are impressed with the training facilities at their new clubs of course.
JoeyB Posted 16 May 2009 Posted 16 May 2009 Except the hundreds of footballers who have said they are impressed with the training facilities at their new clubs of course. Leave the poor lass alone :: I have heard they are buying some area in Kegworth
Red Leicester Posted 16 May 2009 Posted 16 May 2009 Loughborough University has one of the top Sports Science centres in the country. The Tigers frequently use their facilities -why do we not do so? We do - just not on a full-time basis. Loughborough have been instrumental in turning this club around with their input to Pearson on sports science and we have been one of the pioneering clubs in our use of Loughborough's oxygen-based therapy for ongoing and pre-match treatment of players with asthma-like problems.
Hullfox Posted 16 May 2009 Posted 16 May 2009 Loughborough have been instrumental in turning this club around with their input to Pearson on sports science and we have been one of the pioneering clubs in our use of Loughborough's oxygen-based therapy for ongoing and pre-match treatment of players with asthma-like problems. And the giant hamster wheel
Red Leicester Posted 16 May 2009 Posted 16 May 2009 And the giant hamster wheel That too - but I was trying to keep that one under-wraps due to the obvious interest it would provoke in our competition next season if the cat got out of the bag. Have you ever seen a hamster wheel being used when there's an unbagged cat? Exactly.
leicesterseddon Posted 17 May 2009 Posted 17 May 2009 I don't.Personally I don't see how owning a training ground gives you stability and inner strength. Hull City do not own their ground and have a training ground which cost £1 million. I do not view them as being either unstable or lacking inner strength to be honest. Assests are what you fall back on when times are hard...you don't really appreciate them when things are going well. Imagine LCFC in a few years' time as a middle-aged man, climbing his way up the career ladder (let's call it this 'the premiership'). Things couldn't be going better, but suddenly he falls ill and his performance at work begins to fall. His company is going through a hard time, and Mr. LCFC is singled out for redundancy (let's call this 'league one - AGAIN'). Now although times are hard, he'll be fine as long as he's got some savings in the bank (we are £14.2m in debt), some valuable assests, like a car (only a few members of our squad are worth anything), and if he owns or part-owns his own house (we don't own the ground and may not own the training ground in a few years' time if this goes ahead). If not, the council will turf him out of the football league...erm...sorry, his house. If MM sells the training ground and then buys the new one with loans in the clubs' name, we'll have nothing. If he does it properly, I'd love a new training ground. But he won't, and I think we all know that... This 'premiership in 3 years' goal of his is being built on sand. When he sells up, we'll be fooked.
Red Leicester Posted 17 May 2009 Posted 17 May 2009 Assests are what you fall back on when times are hard...you don't really appreciate them when things are going well.Imagine LCFC in a few years' time as a middle-aged man, climbing his way up the career ladder (let's call it this 'the premiership'). Things couldn't be going better, but suddenly he falls ill and his performance at work begins to fall. His company is going through a hard time, and Mr. LCFC is singled out for redundancy (let's call this 'league one - AGAIN'). Now although times are hard, he'll be fine as long as he's got some savings in the bank (we are £14.2m in debt), some valuable assests, like a car (only a few members of our squad are worth anything), and if he owns or part-owns his own house (we don't own the ground and may not own the training ground in a few years' time if this goes ahead). If not, the council will turf him out of the football league...erm...sorry, his house. If MM sells the training ground and then buys the new one with loans in the clubs' name, we'll have nothing. If he does it properly, I'd love a new training ground. But he won't, and I think we all know that... This 'premiership in 3 years' goal of his is being built on sand. When he sells up, we'll be fooked. So, what if this period in time we are a man undergoing a middle-aged crisis? How about we just got caught with a prostitute by the police, they've informed our wife and PC World just found something dodgy on the computer? Our car has a flat tyre, the kids dinner money needs paying to school and work have stopped overtime...maybe this hugely confusing situation needs us to have a new extension so we are prepared to sell the allotment in order to fund it. With any luck we will also be able to take a family holiday to the Algarve if there is some leftover cash. I have no idea what this analogy, or yours, means...but we sound a bit "fooked" at the moment.
leicesterseddon Posted 17 May 2009 Posted 17 May 2009 So, what if this period in time we are a man undergoing a middle-aged crisis? How about we just got caught with a prostitute by the police, they've informed our wife and PC World just found something dodgy on the computer? Our car has a flat tyre, the kids dinner money needs paying to school and work have stopped overtime...maybe this hugely confusing situation needs us to have a new extension so we are prepared to sell the allotment in order to fund it. With any luck we will also be able to take a family holiday to the Algarve if there is some leftover cash.I have no idea what this analogy, or yours, means...but we sound a bit "fooked" at the moment. me neither really...perhaps trying to turn a football club into a metaphorical man was a bad idea
Red Leicester Posted 17 May 2009 Posted 17 May 2009 me neither really...perhaps trying to turn a football club into a metaphorical man was a bad idea Yup I guess my real point is that there's no point keeping family silver for a rainy day if when that day comes people start claiming there could be worse in the future. Maybe this is our rainy day, it certainly is outside my window at the moment! Even if Mandaric is selling off the training ground and not reinvesting all of the cash - maybe it is being done because we've been strapped for cash over the recent past. We've just played a season in League 1 and posted shocking financial figures...where on Earth do people expect the shortfall in cash to come from because the last time I looked the Football League fairy wasn't popping multi-million pound sums under our collective pillow at night. I don't buy into the nonsense that we need to own our training facilities nor that our business is analogous to Woolworths. The players will continue to use decent facilities whether we own them or not and the profit generated from developing the current site could be very useful indeed. I'm content that the club, being far from perfect, is doing what is in its best interests over this.
davieG Posted 17 May 2009 Author Posted 17 May 2009 Yup I guess my real point is that there's no point keeping family silver for a rainy day if when that day comes people start claiming there could be worse in the future. Maybe this is our rainy day, it certainly is outside my window at the moment! Even if Mandaric is selling off the training ground and not reinvesting all of the cash - maybe it is being done because we've been strapped for cash over the recent past. We've just played a season in League 1 and posted shocking financial figures...where on Earth do people expect the shortfall in cash to come from because the last time I looked the Football League fairy wasn't popping multi-million pound sums under our collective pillow at night. I don't buy into the nonsense that we need to own our training facilities nor that our business is analogous to Woolworths. The players will continue to use decent facilities whether we own them or not and the profit generated from developing the current site could be very useful indeed. I'm content that the club, being far from perfect, is doing what is in its best interests over this. There in lies the big question is it what's best for the club or for Mandaric, it's alright when the aims of both are the same but at some point they may diverge and Mandaric will ensure he wont suffer even if it's at the expense of LCFC - well that's how I see it.
Hullfox Posted 17 May 2009 Posted 17 May 2009 There in lies the big question is it what's best for the club or for Mandaric, it's alright when the aims of both are the same but at some point they may diverge and Mandaric will ensure he wont suffer even if it's at the expense of LCFC - well that's how I see it. As long as he buys a giant hamster wheel i'm 100% behind him.
davieG Posted 17 May 2009 Author Posted 17 May 2009 As long as he buys a giant hamster wheel i'm 100% behind him. We could have done with one during his first season to put some of the chumps that passed as players in there, would haave been better to watch than what was laughingly called Championship Football.
iancognito Posted 17 May 2009 Posted 17 May 2009 They should have thought this one through and built the new training facilities on the old Filbert Street site before it became the shocking mess that's there now.
Houdini Logic Posted 18 May 2009 Posted 18 May 2009 Why does it make a difference - we still won't be allowed in
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 20 May 2009 Posted 20 May 2009 Loughborough University has one of the top Sports Science centres in the country. The Tigers frequently use their facilities -why do we not do so? There was some documentarty on prime time tv over here where they did a segment on some aerobic testing at lougborough Uni
Steven Posted 20 May 2009 Posted 20 May 2009 I don't think anyone buy's a football club without the intention of making money. It's business Tell Platini and Blatter that.
Chrysalis Posted 21 May 2009 Posted 21 May 2009 Well the theories were there when he brought the club that he would sell the training ground, it would seem this is now turning true. I agree this is for profit, people say its a good time to sell, I say you dont sell in a bottomed out market. Makes it even more baffling. The plan is likely to sell the ground and then rent something else so a short term financial gain, some money may go back into the club but I expect not all of it. I also dont like this chief exec we got, very dodgy he was involved at southampton during the time they were racking up debts.
renards Posted 21 May 2009 Posted 21 May 2009 There was some documentarty on prime time tv over here where they did a segment on some aerobic testing at lougborough Uni LCFC used Lough Uni about 2 years ago for specialist stuff. Its not used a widly as exspected by either City or the Tigers, ECB use the acadamy facilities (best in the country)
billyfox1 Posted 21 May 2009 Posted 21 May 2009 LCFC used Lough Uni about 2 years ago for specialist stuff.Its not used a widly as exspected by either City or the Tigers, ECB use the acadamy facilities (best in the country) Haven't we got some sort of official partnership with Lougborough Uni?
davieG Posted 21 May 2009 Author Posted 21 May 2009 Haven't we got some sort of official partnership with Lougborough Uni? Yes - we use their facilities and they charge us for it.
Radovan's Caravan Posted 22 May 2009 Posted 22 May 2009 Remember that 'Arkan' has no interest in Leicester or football. For a start he has a big army to train and feed: Here in Voj we laugh at The Sunday Times Rich List and how old the figures are (at least 30 years out of date). Nobody here believes 'Arkan' is worth less than £1 billion. Like all good Serb spivs he pays for nothing and can see an asset to strip from a 1,000 kilometres in the dark. Your training ground would have been just one cherry he would have spotted through his night vision goggles on the cliffs above Monte Carlo. You better pray that you reach the Premiership next season (I will go on special pilgrimage to Kosovo to help) or you will be watching your football team playing next to that War Memorial!
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