Live streaming info topic.

[Ford Super Sunday]

No

QPR-Boro is the BBC's main game today, so no stream for the match

[marbelladave]

Live on 5 live Extra though......

[samjohnson]

Live on 5 live Extra though......

And Radio leicester... of course

[marbelladave]

And Radio leicester... of course

But not on line if you do not have a subscription!

[leeleic]

If you've got sky. Radio 5 Live extra is sky channel 0144!

[haraven]

boo hoo I want stream!

[jimmer]

This might work closer to kick off.

This site has worked for me before but is very hit and miss.

http://www.rajangan.net/template_live.php?ida=3738

[Leicester-Fox]

Try this link, says it starts streaming at 1pm.

http://www.justin.tv/granados_101

[MC Prussian]

Try this link, says it starts streaming at 1pm.

http://www.justin.tv/granados_101

So far, it's only showing an Aston Villa - Tottenham replay.

[J.Lisemore]

Not looking good.

[bigm_j]

Freeview 706

Oh No!! Forest just scored

[haraven]

Bristol match tonight, doesn't look good for a stream, does it? Should stream those matches with the tv facilities we got at Walkers, I'd pay a few quid more for a live stream instead of BBC Radio, or just mix the vocies of Stringer and the stream together.

[dandannieldanok]

Bristol match tonight, doesn't look good for a stream, does it? Should stream those matches with the tv facilities we got at Walkers, I'd pay a few quid more for a live stream instead of BBC Radio, or just mix the vocies of Stringer and the stream together.

Would be bad business by the club if they streamed matches, it'd put people off buying tickets and going, especially on a cold December tuesday night. I know it's unfortunate for anyone not in the country like yourself, but the club would lose out if it started streaming matches.

[Sly]

Depends, if you were offering a season ticket stream price at £7.50 a game or something like that, potentially you could tap into a gold mine.

If you look at what the club takes on a match day, 28,000 x £30 = £840,000.

Now if you were to offer tickets at £7.50 a match for a stream, I think you capture a target audience that either can't attend or are willing to shell out £30 to sit out in the cold. It's a way of capturing the people that slip through the net in terms of being unable to attend.

It's just extra revenue for the club and whilst it may have some impact on the club in terms of match day attendance, when you analyze the Leicester City crowd. You will always get a proportion that would still rather go to an event rather than watch it on TV due to the atmosphere and the technophobes that have never of the Internet.

For people like me, that can't guarantee they'll be able to attend every game, so won't opt for a season ticket, it'd be ideal if I could just link up to my laptop when travelling and watch the Leicester game.

[haraven]

I agree with Sly, say you'd pay a certain sum in order to get the stream, that would be tremendous. That being said, if I was living in Leicester, I would much rather be there live than sitting watching a stream. Guess it would be about finding a balance in price. We got several paid streams for many matches in Norway, and I think it's a nice way of watching your club on away matches or follow them if you live out of city.

[dandannieldanok]

Depends, if you were offering a season ticket stream price at £7.50 a game or something like that, potentially you could tap into a gold mine.

If you look at what the club takes on a match day, 28,000 x £30 = £840,000.

Now if you were to offer tickets at £7.50 a match for a stream, I think you capture a target audience that either can't attend or are willing to shell out £30 to sit out in the cold. It's a way of capturing the people that slip through the net in terms of being unable to attend.

It's just extra revenue for the club and whilst it may have some impact on the club in terms of match day attendance, when you analyze the Leicester City crowd. You will always get a proportion that would still rather go to an event rather than watch it on TV due to the atmosphere and the technophobes that have never of the Internet.

For people like me, that can't guarantee they'll be able to attend every game, so won't opt for a season ticket, it'd be ideal if I could just link up to my laptop when travelling and watch the Leicester game.

28,000?? optimistic isn't it?

I agree that it captures people who slip through the net, but it would also capture non season ticket holders which is a massive negative. Unless tickets are priced cheaply or the club does offers to entice non season ticket holders, theres a chance that you could have the situation where it is virtually just the season ticket holders and away fans attending leaving an attendance of about 15/16,000, while non season ticket holders stay away.

I'm afraid not being able to see games is the price you pay for not living in England and within easy reach of Leicester, whether that's come about through choice or not.

[Sly]

28,000?? optimistic isn't it?

I agree that it captures people who slip through the net, but it would also capture non season ticket holders which is a massive negative. Unless tickets are priced cheaply or the club does offers to entice non season ticket holders, there's a chance that you could have the situation where it is virtually just the season ticket holders and away fans attending leaving an attendance of about 15/16,000, while non season ticket holders stay away.

I'm afraid not being able to see games is the price you pay for not living in England and within easy reach of Leicester, whether that's come about through choice or not.

No logic to me choosing 28,000, it was just a nice number more than anything.

Your right that it would impact on the fans who attend on a game by game basis, how drastically, I don't know. I just think the club would benefit financially by offering an alternative option. You'll still get non season ticket holders attending games. I suppose the acid test is would you get enough buys to contra the loss in people actually attending the match. It's not just about the ticket price, the clubs also loses out on merchandise and facilities sales also.

The over impact, thinking now, is also the potential for pirate streams, one person pays then airs it to a lot more sites, so you have people watching for free. You are making your product more accessible I suppose, so it effect your in a catch 22.

[dandannieldanok]

No logic to me choosing 28,000, it was just a nice number more than anything.

Your right that it would impact on the fans who attend on a game by game basis, how drastically, I don't know. I just think the club would benefit financially by offering an alternative option. You'll still get non season ticket holders attending games. I suppose the acid test is would you get enough buys to contra the loss in people actually attending the match. It's not just about the ticket price, the clubs also loses out on merchandise and facilities sales also.

The over impact, thinking now, is also the potential for pirate streams, one person pays then airs it to a lot more sites, so you have people watching for free. You are making your product more accessible I suppose, so it effect your in a catch 22.

As you say it's ambiguous as to what the effects would be and how financially viable it would be. There is a possiblity, if enough far-flung viewers sing up that you could make a profit, but the whole scheme is a discouragement to attend matches which is never good. Atmospheres aren't great at the Walkers anyway, so dwindling attendances is definitely not going to help that even if the streams pull in a profit. I'd be interested to see it carried out, but I'd rather another similar club to us tried it first just to see what happened.

[Captain...]

As you say it's ambiguous as to what the effects would be and how financially viable it would be. There is a possiblity, if enough far-flung viewers sing up that you could make a profit, but the whole scheme is a discouragement to attend matches which is never good. Atmospheres aren't great at the Walkers anyway, so dwindling attendances is definitely not going to help that even if the streams pull in a profit. I'd be interested to see it carried out, but I'd rather another similar club to us tried it first just to see what happened.

For me it would be perfect, and when I am back in England of course I would go to the live games, but for the club it would be a mistake, any game that is broadcast anywhere at anytime is available on live streaming. If there was a stream somewhere it would get copied and redistributed, so only a handful of people would pay for it and a lot more would watch it.

Whether it would discourage people that live in Leicester from going I don't know. Tonight is a cold December evening match after a drubbing at the weekend and with work in the morning and Christmas coming during a recession, if people have an alternative to paying £25 for the game I'm sure many will.

If it is a warm summer afternoon riding high in the table after a series of good performances then it would be different. Do Sky home games have an adverse effect on attendances?

I think there is also the legal aspect of broadcasting games at 3pm on a Saturday I can only presume it is still illegal in England, so it would only be accessible by foreign IP adresses, so cutting the paying audience, but then it would streamed on a free site for the rest of England to watch.

I may have invented this but didn't a pub part owned by LCFC near to Filbert Street show the live games in there? I think it was a direct feed from the ground so no commentators. This was a good few years ago when I was too young to go to pubs, and had a season ticket so didn't need to go. Like I said this could be my memory playing tricks on me I think it was during the MON prem years.

[john_lcfc]

Im away tonight, anyone know of any streams for the game tonight?

[ozleicester]

As there are highlights of every game, it makes sense that they must tape the whole game?

Dont have to provide top quality, or commentaters, or replays etc, just let the camera stream direct to the net.

No added cost.

Unlikely to reduce attendances.

Easy way to pick up some extra cash from out of town or overseas fans.

and they could even... run adverts along the bottom of the stream or somewhere, to again increase revenues, or at least offer a major sponsor more coverage?

if the LCFC management and sponsorship teams need anymore ideas or info.. i can be contacted by IM

[john_lcfc]

anyone got one for todays game?

[Leicfox]

anyone got one for todays game?

No chance of a link today im affraid.

[Guest Mee-9]

Looks like it'll be Stringer & Co for some of you, Can't find a link.

[dave the caveman]

As there are highlights of every game, it makes sense that they must tape the whole game?

Dont have to provide top quality, or commentaters, or replays etc, just let the camera stream direct to the net.

No added cost.

Unlikely to reduce attendances.

Easy way to pick up some extra cash from out of town or overseas fans.

and they could even... run adverts along the bottom of the stream or somewhere, to again increase revenues, or at least offer a major sponsor more coverage?

if the LCFC management and sponsorship teams need anymore ideas or info.. i can be contacted by IM

I'm not sure of the exact amount but I would imagine television rights make up a large percentage of a football clubs income. If a club wanted to stream all games live they'd have to give up that money, and would be very unlikely to make anything near that amount with a few adverts. A subscription based service provided by someone like Sky will probably come into effect in the next few years. But it's not possible for individual clubs to do it. They also probably have to sign some kind of contract with the league concerning screening rights. It isn't the clubs choice.