Fox92 Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Aleksandar Tunchev - Deserves his own song Has got one Wasn't you at S****horpe away last season ________ I thought I'd posted on this thread but possibly not. Middlesborough are going to attack arn't they and Berner/Nielson will have their hands full with Adam Johnson - think he can play on both sides can't he? Face it, Middlesborough's squad is great. There's some Premiership players in there like O'Niell, Johnson and Wheater. ________ Weale (GK) Morrison (RCB) -- Hobbs (CB) -- Tunchev (LCB) Nielson (RWB) Berner (LWB) Oakley (RCM) -- Gallagher (CM/AM) -- Wellens (LCM) Fryatt (ST) Howard (ST) Subs: Logan Brown McGiven Adams N'Guessan Kermogrant Waghorn ________ I've gon with that because I can drop N'Guessan without replacing him. The wing backs in Nielson and Berner can attack but also defend. Oakley and Wellens will cover most of the midfield. Gallagher can sit in the middle of midfield but also drop into that hole is necessary. I have put Fryatt behind Howard, but he'll most probably make the two strikers. Morrison back in, and on the right. And Hobbs back in. Tunchev on the left Nigel! He wasn't on Saturday which caused us problems. The defence should be ok with three (five) dealing with there attacking potentials. ________ With Nigel being a cult hero there, do you think we can go win 5-0 like West Brom or just nick it at 1-0?
norfolkfox222 Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Team i want to see... Weale Morrison Hobbs Tunchev Berner Gradel Wellens Oakley Dyer Fryatt Gallagher Team I think it will be Weale Nielson Hobbs Brown Berner Gallagher Wellens Oakley nGuessen Howard Fryatt
the buckwheat Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Howard needs to be 'rested', although Kermogant looked ok yesterday its probably too soon to start him. Gallagher and Fryatt up front for is worth a go. Y.Kermit can play 75', and then Howard for the last 15' Weale Morrison Hobbs Tunchev Berner Oakley Wellens Adams Gallagher Fryatt Kermorgant ( he's the answer, Morpheus told me the prophecy )
clazkel Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Im glad to see that alot of people think how i think, that Morrison, Adams and Hobbs should be playing. I dont know why Pearson doesnt see it i like the idea of 4-3-1-2, but i think we need to get a balance back with 4-4-2 like last season. If the team has a better balance they will support the forwards more so i think Howard should probably start
davieG Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 With all the flax that Neilson's getting I can't understand this clamour for a narrow mid-field - surely for this to work you need your full backs to get forward regularly and without the option of swapping/over lapping a winger who can then provide cover. I can't really see Morrison as an attacking wing back either.
TrickyTrev Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 With all the flax that Neilson's getting I can't understand this clamour for a narrow mid-field - surely for this to work you need your full backs to get forward regularly and without the option of swapping/over lapping a winger who can then provide cover.I can't really see Morrison as an attacking wing back either. Fryatt can't play upfront on his own and Wellens and Oakley get over run as a pairing, making a 4-5-1 or a traditional 4-4-2 unattractive, thus its difficult for us to play with conventional wingers.
davieG Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Fryatt can't play upfront on his own and Wellens and Oakley get over run as a pairing, making a 4-5-1 or a traditional 4-4-2 unattractive, thus its difficult for us to play with conventional wingers. I understand that but it's Neilson that's taking the full brunt of the blame for our poor displays and yet people are happy to suggest systems which expose him. So maybe we should go back to Oakley on the right in front of Neilson with Wellens & King in Midfield a left winger and someone productive to partner Fryatt up front. Not ideal but it has produced results before and leaves us less exposed.
StanSP Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Oh dear!It's going all pear shaped and nobody has the faintest idea what to do about it to stop the wheels coming off! It's not about the individual players, I see that last months favourite is consigned to the scrap heap along with Neilson, King and the rest. This is a complete nonsense, how on earth has Brown gone from being lauded as our best player (in some quarters) a couple of weeks ago to being the scapegoat now? Work that out and you might be on the way to working out what is beginning to go so badly wrong. We need to identify what we are trying to achieve against Boro, pick a side accordingly and send them out with a clear plan and hopefully a few options. Loose again and we could drop into the lower half and with our confidence falling apart we could be in deep poo. Sorry Nigel
TrickyTrev Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 I understand that but it's Neilson that's taking the full brunt of the blame for our poor displays and yet people are happy to suggest systems which expose him.So maybe we should go back to Oakley on the right in front of Neilson with Wellens & King in Midfield a left winger and someone productive to partner Fryatt up front. Not ideal but it has produced results before and leaves us less exposed. I could get behind that. Dyer, Adams or Gradel on the left with Gallagher partnering Fryatt. I certainly don't see some people's solution, sticking Morrison in the side and asking him to do the same job, having any chance of working. Morrison is a converted centre half with his own limitations, he may or may not be a better defender than Robbie, but neither are capable of being attacking full backs at this level. (Only convinces me more that we need to loan a ball carrying right back ASAP)
TrickyTrev Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Sorry Nigel What is the point in taking the piss out of someone for trying to talk about why we are not playing well? Just because it is up to Nigel doesn't mean that others can't have an opinion on the matter.
Simo86 Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 I could get behind that. Dyer, Adams or Gradel on the left with Gallagher partnering Fryatt.I certainly don't see some people's solution, sticking Morrison in the side and asking him to do the same job, having any chance of working. Morrison is a converted centre half with his own limitations, he may or may not be a better defender than Robbie, but neither are capable of being attacking full backs at this level. (Only convinces me more that we need to loan a ball carrying right back ASAP) Kerrea Gilbert anyone? I'd love to see him back!
Fox92 Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 FFS we haven't got Gilbert, that's it. It's gunna turn into the 'if we' signed Marton Fulop thread. Everyone is critising Nielson, yet Gilbert was just as worse in a lower division - it was just Gilbert's pace that got him out of his perdiciments, so you didn't see it as much as you do with Robbie Nielson. If we had a real right midfielder who would take the ball with him when 'running' at the left back, attempt to win the ball back, run down the right for other players and wouldn't come inside so much then maybe we might be dangerous from the right. And, jeez, Adams, Gradel and Dyer arn't good enough. Yes, Gallagher looks poor on the left, out of position, but thats down to bad management. Adams is a squad player, so is Dyer and Gradel isn't good enough.
StanSP Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 What is the point in taking the piss out of someone for trying to talk about why we are not playing well? Just because it is up to Nigel doesn't mean that others can't have an opinion on the matter. chill.
jimmer Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 I would like to see -Weale- -Neilson---Hobbs---Tunch---Berner--Gradel---Oakley---Wellens---Adams-Kermorgant/Howard-----Fryatt Give the youngsters a run out, bit of pace down the wings
davieG Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Tunc out - most likely SOFIA - Central defender Alexander Tunchev will miss Bulgaria's World Cup qualifiers against Cyprus and Georgia next month with a knee injury, the Bulgarian Football Union said on Monday. Leicester City's Tunchev, 28, sustained the injury during his club's 2-1 defeat to Preston North End in the English Championship on Saturday. Bulgaria must win to keep alive their slim chances of the runners-up spot in Group Eight. Italy top the standings with 20 points from eight matches, followed by Ireland on 16. Bulgaria are third with 11 points. Source - http://fourfourtwo.com/news/worldcup2010/38322/default.aspx
Lillehamring Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 You're assuming that Kermogant will. He only played for 10 minutes that's not long enough to judgenot at all, but we'll never know what he is capable of until he plays, i think it's already established that he is a decent set piece taker, which howard will never be, howard has had plenty of time to prove he should be first choice and he just doesn't seem to have done that We're ninth and it's still not October. It's not like we're facing imminent relegation. true, but if we have intentions of pushing for the playoffs, we can't afford a run of loses, as it will damage moral, already the inconsistant squad selection and forced inclusion of players for non-footballing reasons, seems to have upset the team work What if Pearson thinks Howard is good enough to play? well, he clearly thinks he is better than any other strikers we have, a lot of people will disagree with that, i'd like to see NP picking teams on current form rather than what seemed to work last season or who they are
leicesterfox86 Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 I'd like to see - Weale Morrison Hobbs Tunch Berner Oakley Wellens King Gallagher Fryatt Kermorgant. I know that won't be the team, but I just think that playing away with Gallagher in the hole will enable to us to play on the break a bit better, and also we'll have 3 central midfielders in place to try and boss the midfield. I think it's time Howard had a rest because Kermorgant looked more useful than him yesterday, and could be a secret weapon. Howard should def be given a rest yea, he isn't showing enough at the moment. Sadly, I think it is becoming very apparant that League One is his level.
Sparky Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 GK Weale RB Morrison LB Berner CB Tunchev CB Hobbs RM Adams LM Dyer CM Oakley CM Wellens (King if RW unfit) CF Fryatt CF Gallagher
Fox92 Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Why the dropping of Howard? He hasn't scored but he takes knocks and flicks the ball's on for Matty, causing the defence a problem. By the way, how was Kermogrant? I understand most are picking him in their team for tomorow, but we left after their second goal and didn't see him. Also, if Pearson starts, for whatever reason, two small strikers up front such as Waghorn/Fryatt/Gallagher then we better not play that long ball like we did when Howard went off against Preston because we'll be playing into their arms, considering their defence is made up of the likes of David Wheater.
the buckwheat Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Kermo is the solution .. . Howard was, but .. . he needs to rest
Guest Bilo Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 GK: Weale RB: Neilson (through lack of alternatives) CB: Hobbs CB: Tunchev LB: Berner M: Oakley M: Wellens M: Dyer F: Gallagher F: Kermorgant F: Fryatt
ronnup Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 GK: WealeRB: Neilson (through lack of alternatives) CB: Hobbs CB: Tunchev LB: Berner M: Oakley M: Wellens M: Dyer F: Gallagher F: Kermorgant F: Fryatt if we play three up front at against boro they'll rip through our mid field, and Neilson is going to be under a whipping from Johnson if he plays.
davieG Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 Tunc out - most likelySource - http://fourfourtwo.com/news/worldcup2010/38322/default.aspx I think you're all wasting your time picking Tunchev
Guest Bilo Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 if we play three up front at against boro they'll rip through our mid field, and Neilson is going to be under a whipping from Johnson if he plays. Haven't put it very well but was thinking more along the lines of a 4-3-1-2 formation with Gallagher playing between the midfield and the two strikers. That seems to suit him best.
Fox92 Posted 28 September 2009 Posted 28 September 2009 I think you're all wasting your time picking Tunchev Just read that article. So, with Tuncehv out, Hobbs has to come back but who will partner him/who do we want? Morrison or Brown? Who plays up front for 'Boro; Aliadiere and whom?
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