post match indifference

[Guest Mee-9]

So it's not tough being an adult and having cancer, or a soldier with just one limb missing?

I'm sick of you making out how Pearson's got this or that wrong, implemented the wrong tactics and selected the wrong players every time we fail to win (or even when we win but fail to win convincingly). You seem to think everything is so simple and straightforward and use your past coaching experience at amateur level as some sort of argument that you could get more out of the current Leicester City squad.

It's so easy to talk the talk, and you know you can keep doing it week in week out because you'll never get the opportunity to prove whether you could do any better or not. You're like one of those TV pundits who has never managed a professional football club but has the audacity to tell others how manager X got this wrong or manager Y should've used your tactics instead. It's incessant and boring - everyone here knows that as soon as Leicester don't win you'll be on with your essays preaching how Nigel Pearson should've done his job.

Quite frankly, we don't have the squad to win promotion or make the play-offs. We've stuck with largely the same squad as last season but now you're expecting them to steamroll teams in the Championship, which simply isn't going to happen. Players like Brown, King, Oakley, Dyer and Howard - all of whom dominated in their respective positions last season - have this season been caught out and found wanting on a number of occasions.

This season is about stabilising ourselves in this league again and not losing depressingly 1-0 at home to piss poor teams. We're still doing much better than most people would've thought at the beginning of the season. Give Nigel a break - he's doing a better job than most people would've thought even if we do have to endure days like today. Yes there are problems, but they are nowhere near as drastic as you suggest with your ramblings.

Too bloody right mate, Thracian depresses me, Even if we win, we read his essays on how, his tactics would win by a bigger defecit etc.. This aint footy manager mate

[lou]

Great Post Anish

[maddog]

I don't give a flying fuck about our current league position, how we played the last time we were in the Championship or whether Milky Ways used to be bigger in the '70s - it's all irrelevant.

We played without passion in the final third, failed to capitalise on our possession and dominance and squandered the opportunity to take three points from a very poor side.

If you are the sort of person who can hand over your cash and enjoy an afternoon like this then my hat goes off to you; you are the type who will gain enjoyment from watching ITV sitcoms, paint dry and reading train timetables. You are one of those simply souls who smile when it rains and lick the windows of buses. I believe you may inherit the Earth. Well done.

Me? I wanted some gumption from the team. I came to see a passionate local derby. That wasn't it.

Poor tactics, poor substitutions and (yet again) Pearson plays people out of position because he's more worried about losing than he is passionate about winning.

Easily the best post i have read in ages.

I 100% agree and if only i had Daggers's way with words to get my point across people may understand me more.

Exactly what i'm thinking.

[martyn]

Oakley and Howard need dropping, they are detrimental to our side at the moment, especially Howard who does well for half an hour before his legs go and fails to win another header for the remainder of the game. Oakley has had an easy ride for some time but for me he is not cutting it at all with his performances.

Problems were obvious. A complete lack of pace in the build up and guile in the final third. If Oakley is to play wide right one of the central midfielders needs to be of the dynamic box to box sort for it to work which neither Wellens or King are.

Positives were Hobbs who was sensational and Andy King for 45 minutes.

[Guest]

And why the cock did Fryatt not hit that chance first time!

He's right footed! Hit it with your right bloody foot! Don't take 17 extra touches and tamely pass it to the keeper!

That's why he's the most frustrating player i've ever seen.

Yes, yes, and yes.

[maddog]

Yes, yes, and yes.

The whole team have been as frustrating as Fryatt recently.

6 points from 6 games and all of a sudden everyone has caught us, Forest are above us, and we have to win Tuesday.

[Ultra]

I can't believe how the happy-clappies are glossing over our failure to beat the worst team to visit the Way since Cheltenham.

For the THIRD consecutive home game, we showed a lack of creativity and firepower. I expected Oakley and Howard to be fired up for the battle against their former club. But they weren't.

Both Oakley and Dyer wandered infield from the flanks too much, leaving us without enough width to trouble a well-drilled visiting defence. And, apart from Dyer (and later Waghorn), the side also showed a worrying lack of mobility.

Pearson hasn't yet sunk to the depths of some of his recent predecessors. But today was too reminiscent of the dross served up to us in recent seasons.

Even Craig Levein managed a victory against the sheep.

[fatboy]

Too bloody right mate, Thracian depresses me, Even if we win, we read his essays on how, his tactics would win by a bigger defecit etc.. This aint footy manager mate

If it was Football Manager, we's get promoted this year, and make the Champions League within 2 years!!

[lou]

I can't believe how the happy-clappies are glossing over our failure to beat the worst team to visit the Way since Cheltenham.

For the THIRD consecutive home game, we showed a lack of creativity and firepower. I expected Oakley and Howard to be fired up for the battle against their former club. But they weren't.

Both Oakley and Dyer wandered infield from the flanks too much, leaving us without enough width to trouble a well-drilled visiting defence. And, apart from Dyer (and later Waghorn), the side also showed a worrying lack of mobility.

Pearson hasn't yet sunk to the depths of some of his recent predecessors. But today was too reminiscent of the dross served up to us in recent seasons.

Even Craig Levein managed a victory against the sheep.

Thats it then! Sack Pearson now and bring back Levein

[Thracian]

a) So it's not tough being an adult and having cancer, or a soldier with just one limb missing?

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I presume you're trying to be funny! What I gave were examples. I don't you lecturing me about cancer cos I've seen all I need from close up.

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b) Quite frankly, we don't have the squad to win promotion or make the play-offs.

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Absolute nonsense. How many games have you actually watched this season? I cannot believe it's many and, whatever, you must have watched different games to the ones I've seen because I've seen nothing and no-one we couldn't cope with.

We even played Newcastle off the park for a decent spell at St James's Park and by Pearson's own admission should probably have had a good few points more this season based on performances.

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c) This season is about stabilising ourselves in this league again and not losing depressingly 1-0 at home to piss poor teams. We're still doing much better than most people would've thought at the beginning of the season. Give Nigel a break - he's doing a better job than most people would've thought even if we do have to endure days like today.

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I've not suggested Pearson's doing a bad job anyway - rather I wish that he realised how good his team actually is and set them up to show it.

This season might be about "stabilizing" to you but I've seen no reason at all why we should set our sights so low and can't really see the point in viewing it like that anyway.

Perhaps more important I don't see any real evidence that Pearson sees it that way and actually believes that we can't cope as Championship challengers.

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d) Yes there are problems, but they are nowhere near as drastic as you suggest with your ramblings.

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Pearson has made many changes to his squad: Weale, Gallagher, Wellens, N'Guessan, Waghorn, Kermorgant and more but anyone who believes our problems are insignificant is just ignoring reality.

Are you really suggesting that, were you a manager (amateur or professional) you would be happy just to have one functioning centre-forward? Or to score one goal or less in 10 out of 12 games? Cos I'm sure Pearson's not happy.

I don't suggest our problems are terminal as in the season we went down. But there are similarities and bit by bit they are costing us dearly. More so because we don't seem to be solving them.

[BedsFox]

I thought King was superb today, pretty important to the team as he cleared up a lot in front of the back four and in the defensive channels at times

However a team with King, Wellens and Oakley across the middle is a little too pedestrian for my liking. I am not sure all three can play across the midfield when it means shunting Oakley out right, as we simply don't create enough down that side

Faced with an unadventurous Derby team, and no pace except Dyer, I don't think we threatened enough to win it

Would like to see a pacey right hand side player, this could be Adams, or even Gradel or N'Guessan for me

Choose two from the three centre mids. to me at the moment this is King sitting and Wellens playing in front of him

Heresey I know but I put Oakley behind the other two at the moment

I think I would also like to be bringing Howard off the bench when required and starting with Fryatt plus pace up front, this means Waghorn at the mo. Force us to play, and to play into feet and create more

[Daggers]

Sorry to interrupt everyone's enjoyment of the usual Thracian-Anish nonsense...

...but Hobbs, the tackle to redeem the awful defending in order to prevent a certain late goal: fucking outstanding.

[lou]

Sorry to interrupt everyone's enjoyment of the usual Thracian-Anish nonsense...

...but Hobbs, the tackle to redeem the awful defending in order to prevent a certain late goal: fucking outstanding.

ahh yes! I concur!

Fryatts blinding run in the 27th minute too... pity it came to nothing

[BedsFox]

Sorry to interrupt everyone's enjoyment of the usual Thracian-Anish nonsense...

...but Hobbs, the tackle to redeem the awful defending in order to prevent a certain late goal: fucking outstanding.

Totally

Almost all non Prem defenders concede the foul and a red card there

Brilliant recovery

[Thracian]

Great Post Anish

Considering the post is full of inaccuracies you surprise me. Must be a full moon or a special gathering of the Swan Lestas!

[dandannieldanok]

Wellens needs dropping before Oakley. Both lost the ball on countless ocassions but at least Oakley is busy and runs around a bit.

[maddog]

Wellens needs dropping before Oakley. Both lost the ball on countless ocassions but at least Oakley is busy and runs around a bit.

[maddog]

Sorry to interrupt everyone's enjoyment of the usual Thracian-Anish nonsense...

...but Hobbs, the tackle to redeem the awful defending in order to prevent a certain late goal: fucking outstanding.

Yes was a good tackle, but it was his fault in the first place.

The entire defence were definitely the best performers of the day, the entire midfield and strikeforce were shitttttttttttt.

And Pearsons tactics, subs etc were shitttttttttt.

I know he's done a good job so far, and the result may not have been different or worse had he changed his tactics, but surely the simplest thing to do is to play players in their actual positions.

Had Pearson played players in their actual positions, and we lost, i wouldn't have questioned his tactics.

But playing Gallagher, Oakley, Kermo, Adams out of position like he has this season, when it all goes wrong his decisions will always be questioned.

[Daggers]

Considering the post is full of inaccuracies you surprise me. Must be a full moon or a special gathering of the Swan Lestas!

Fuck me - a post where you aren't moaning about the law, Labour, immigrants, homosexuals or traffic wardens?

It must be the full moon answer.

[Anish]

Considering the post is full of inaccuracies you surprise me. Must be a full moon or a special gathering of the Swan Lestas!

Oh give it a rest. Just because somebody dares disagree with you with an eloquent response which you twist and spin in your usual ways, said response is deemed to be "full of inaccuracies".

For the record, I've seen enough games this season to know our squad isn't good enough for promotion. Do you seriously think the likes of Brown (turning circle of a lorry and the speed of a turtle), Oakley (over the hill), King (one paced, one trick pony - yes he can pass but can he dominate a midfield?), Dyer (pace but no brain and pretty ineffective in this league), Fryatt (we all know his faults) and Howard (can barely run let alone score) - all of whom form the spine of our team, are good enough to take us into the top 6?

We're going to do well to stay in the top 10 - most people would've taken that at the start of the season. And if you finish in 10th position then obviously you won't win every home game.

You think I'm being unambitious for wanting stability - our club needs nothing more than stability after what's happened here in the last 5 years. I'm being realistic - the reason why we aren't in the top 6 (which you think is achievable because of 30 minute spells of good play here and there) is because we're not consistent enough, and the reason is because our players aren't good enough.

[Daggers]

Imagine you are four teens.

Imagine you find it terribly funny to wave naughty signs and your scarf at the Derby fans as we leave the station.

Imagine that you are spineless enough not to have made a squeek until you'd climbed on the train - and that, being a typical teen, you never listen to a single figging instruction you are ever given.

Then imagine my delight when they say: "What? This isn't the train to Melton Harborough" or whatever other dumbass town they actually lived in...and had to get off at Nuneaton for the train bound for Derby fans.

Wankers

[lou]

Considering the post is full of inaccuracies you surprise me. Must be a full moon or a special gathering of the Swan Lestas!

Inaccuracies = opinions that differ to yours I assume?

As I have no idea what a Swan Lesta is I cant confirm or deny that one Im afraid.

[marbelladave]

Just got in.

Fantastic performance keeping us in a quite superb 8th place in the championship.

Play the rest of the season at this level and the dizzy heights of mid table await, I am so, so pleased with our start to the season after 11 games, 8th place is beyond my wildest dreams.

Only negatives are the annoying tendency of King, Berner and (sometimes) Wellens to pass the ball to the feet of a colleague, rather than get the ball up to Howard as quickly as possible.

Completely ruins our game plan!

[Thracian]

a) For the record, I've seen enough games this season to know our squad isn't good enough for promotion. Do you seriously think the likes of Brown (turning circle of a lorry and the speed of a turtle), Oakley (over the hill), King (one paced, one trick pony - yes he can pass but can he dominate a midfield?), Dyer (pace but no brain and pretty ineffective in this league), Fryatt (we all know his faults) and Howard (can barely run let alone score) - all of whom form the spine of our team, are good enough to take us into the top 6?

b) We're going to do well to stay in the top 10 - most people would've taken that at the start of the season. And if you finish in 10th position then obviously you won't win every home game.

c) You think I'm being unambitious for wanting stability - our club needs nothing more than stability after what's happened here in the last 5 years. I'm being realistic - the reason why we aren't in the top 6 (which you think is achievable because of 30 minute spells of good play here and there) is because we're not consistent enough, and the reason is because our players aren't good enough.

a) Still vague with the number of games watched. But while you curtly dismiss most of our leading players of last season and neglect to mention the many additions who are still finding their way into the team it is not just about our team, it is about the opposition and I've yet to see anything in this "tough" league to greatly concern me, or our team.

b) Not even the manager thinks we are "doing well". He, like a great many others, thinks we have underperformed in terms of points accumulated when set alongside the performances and he seems absolutely right to me. You might have taken 10th place, but then you seem to mirror the level of ambition this club has shown for far too long.

c) We've got stability now. It's improvement we want. I wouldn't question our consistency at all. Seems to me we've completed a shift in all our games. But I don't think Pearson has once gone for the throat in games. We've always played cagily.

We've never attacked in sufficient numbers even though we have the personnel to do so. Had we done so and failed I could have understood it but not ever trying (apart from very briefly at Covventry) baffles me, especially as the Coventry attacking saved the game. Today we could have shown the same ambition but didn't yet you complain about me being critical.

We were the home team today and didn't force their goalkeeper to make one serious save.

You can excuse it all you like but I think it was appalling because our players are far better than that. And if that's the case then something is causing us to underperform so badly and our goals record these last 12 games shows that the failing has been apparent for far longer than any manager should put up with.

[Benji]

Just got in.

Fantastic performance keeping us in a quite superb 8th place in the championship.

Play the rest of the season at this level and the dizzy heights of mid table await, I am so, so pleased with our start to the season after 11 games, 8th place is beyond my wildest dreams.

Only negatives are the annoying tendency of King, Berner and (sometimes) Wellens to pass the ball to the feet of a colleague, rather than get the ball up to Howard as quickly as possible.

Completely ruins our game plan!