Dawson leaves

[Frenzied]

Lars Hirschfeld does leave one small mark in our history, we add another goalkeeper to the list of City goalkeepers who played for their country while at Leicester City.

Banks, Shilton, Keller, Walker, Hirschfeld

as he played against Portugal in March 05.

Keith H

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Walker didnt play for England while at city did he? Thought his last appearance was against Italy while Hoddle was manager.

Edited as he has been in the squad.

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He last played for England in our 6-1 win against Iceland in 2004

[kenny]

Lars Hirschfeld does leave one small mark in our history, we add another goalkeeper to the list of City goalkeepers who played for their country while at Leicester City.

Banks, Shilton, Keller, Walker, Hirschfeld

as he played against Portugal in March 05.

Keith H

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Walker didnt play for England while at city did he? Thought his last appearance was against Italy while Hoddle was manager.

Edited as he has been in the squad.

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He last played for England in our 6-1 win against Iceland in 2004

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Didnt realise that, was it one of those second half token efforts?

[Frenzied]

Lars Hirschfeld does leave one small mark in our history, we add another goalkeeper to the list of City goalkeepers who played for their country while at Leicester City.

Banks, Shilton, Keller, Walker, Hirschfeld

as he played against Portugal in March 05.

Keith H

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Walker didnt play for England while at city did he? Thought his last appearance was against Italy while Hoddle was manager.

Edited as he has been in the squad.

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He last played for England in our 6-1 win against Iceland in 2004

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Didnt realise that, was it one of those second half token efforts?

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Think so. I vaguely remember him getting a few minutes but I looked this one up to be sure.

Walker's caps

[Scow]

Maybe Dawson received a good/better offer from another club?

The wage bill is going to be reduced again next season so this is the type of thing we need to get used to.

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There were rumours of Manchester City sniffing about.

[Ric Flair]

This feels like the first time you have a major bust up with your girlfriend and you feel like the world is ending. Me and Craig have had our first falling out, the way i'm feeling right now he can bollocks. I'm sure he knows what he's doing, but this is a ****ing disgrace. People might say that it was Dawson's decision to leave the club but let me tell you a few things.

1) Dawson's deal that recently expired was the original deal he signed when he first came to the club, meaning he was on a very, very small wage. One of those 3 year scholar's which I would imagine was no more than a few hundred quid a week. Now to offer the lad even less at 19, well as you can imagine. He'd be better off on the grill at match days serving balti pie's.

2) Levein hasn't given Dawson a sniff, he could of atleast gave him 10 mins against Plymouth. Another reason why Dawson perhaps feels like he's being patronised.

3) A one year deal aswell, after everything Levein has said about wanting to reward players with bigger contracts. Well I bet that has made Dawson feel wanted.

You lot can all say i'm going over the top and I expect nothing else from the people that have never seen this lad play. But this is wrong, the biggest outcry since Diedre was put in prison. You'll all agree with me when you see him playing top level football in 3 years time. I hope he goes on to give Levein nightmares and shit's in his beer after the match to really rub it in.

Craig.........you've made a mistake.

[Guest]

It's all well and good being a prospect, but until you've actually gone out there and proven it, why should he be offered a long-term deal with more money?

The fact that it's a one year deal suggests to me a probationary period, and it would be feasible that if Dawson impressed enough, that contract could be renegotiated at a later stage.

[Katy]

Maybe Dawson received a good/better offer from another club?

The wage bill is going to be reduced again next season so this is the type of thing we need to get used to.

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There were rumours of Manchester City sniffing about.

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Well theres your answer then

[Ric Flair]

It's all well and good being a prospect, but until you've actually gone out there and proven it, why should he be offered a long-term deal with more money?

The fact that it's a one year deal suggests to me a probationary period, and it would be feasible that if Dawson impressed enough, that contract could be renegotiated at a later stage.

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It's not about more money or anything like that. Dawson isn't in a position to command alot of money, but it was his first professional contract and he's been offered less than his scholar contract! :eek: Couple that with just a poxy one year deal and you can see why he perhaps doesn't feel wanted here.

Anyway i'm in no mood to positively debate this, Levein has made a mistake and it will take alot more than Rab ****in Douglas to get me optimistic again. No doubt he'll get a 3 year deal aswell.

C U N T

[Dunc]

Get over it you moron, he's an ok player, probably end up like Oakes making a living but nothing special.

For his sake I hope I'm wrong but to be this upset isn't good. BTW just as a pointer, it was his 2nd contract with the club, he signed it 2 years ago as a pro contract - 2 years ago we'd just been promoted and had a good amoutn of money hence the higher wages at that time.

[Bert]

Get over it you moron, he's an ok player, probably end up like Oakes making a living but nothing special.

For his sake I hope I'm wrong but to be this upset isn't good.  BTW just as a pointer, it was his 2nd contract with the club, he signed it 2 years ago as a pro contract - 2 years ago we'd just been promoted and had a good amoutn of money hence the higher wages at that time.

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no need to be like that now Hoof was just expressing his anger of how one of the greatest prospects of this club has been released in a disgraceful way, but this player had a lot of potential and if you knew what he had you might realiise why Hoof feels this way

[Fez of Mahrez]

It's all well and good being a prospect, but until you've actually gone out there and proven it, why should he be offered a long-term deal with more money?

The fact that it's a one year deal suggests to me a probationary period, and it would be feasible that if Dawson impressed enough, that contract could be renegotiated at a later stage.

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It's not about more money or anything like that. Dawson isn't in a position to command alot of money, but it was his first professional contract and he's been offered less than his scholar contract! :eek: Couple that with just a poxy one year deal and you can see why he perhaps doesn't feel wanted here.

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If the rumours about Man City or another club in their position are true (Flowers is at Man City now, remember) then its entirely possible that Dawson wanted more money than the club felt was right, especially given that all players' wages are being renegotiated at a lower level and the wage bill is being reduced dramatically.

But I understand you are upset at this traumatic time so I won't push the matter..

[Guest]

I can't believe that people are getting so worked up. It's disappointing granted, but no one player is bigger than the club. We've seen better players leave, and we're still here.

[Bert]

I can't believe that people are getting so worked up.  It's disappointing granted, but no one player is bigger than the club.  We've seen better players leave, and we're still here.

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That is a great point Lisa i totally agree with ya!

[Shum]

Spot on Lisa.

[Hutber's Law]

I can't believe that people are getting so worked up.  It's disappointing granted, but no one player is bigger than the club.  We've seen better players leave, and we're still here.

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That is a great point Lisa i totally agree with ya!

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Agree with this. No-one can say CL hasn't given youth a chance - saying he's targeting bringing around three through each year. He's obviously unconvinced Dawson is up to the required standard and isn't going to risk money we haven't got on him.

As long as Stearman/Sheehan etc are being looked after I'm not worried by this.

[Ian]

Sorry but i can't say as i am overlly concerned.

I only saw him play 4 or 5 times and i would class him as reasonable but he hardly set the pitch on fire with glaring talent that some people are going on about.

I feel for the lad as he has been here for 4 years but if he was that good CL would have already seen it and before him MA.

He is 20 this year and signed a pro contract in 2003 so he isn't as Hoof was saying still on his scholar contract.

Cl obviouslty thinks he can get a better player for the same money or he would have kept him.

The manager has seen more of this player than any of us since hes been here and his name has never been mentioned when he has talked about our young players where as stearman, Porter and Sheenan have, so its not as if he has a downer on young players like MA just he doesn't fancy this one much.

Football is about opinions and only time will tell but for me i will go with the manager on this one and wish the lad all the best.

[Durnerz]

Football is a job. If I was offered a contract in an higher tier of the company (in this case moving from scholar to professional) i'd expect to be earning more. The fact we have offered him apparently LESS is quite astounding, however, was it a professional contract he was offered or an extension to his youth contract?

[Dunc]

Still think you are wrong on the conetract point hoof, and I have seen him play a few times but not as many as you or CL probably.

But if its okay with you I'll trust CL's judgement (based on Maybury, McCarthy, Kenton and Hughes though probably not De Vries!) rather than you.

[Ric Flair]

Sorry but i can't say as i am overlly concerned.

I only saw him play 4 or 5 times and i would class him as reasonable but he hardly set the pitch on fire with glaring talent that some people are going on about.

I feel for the lad as he has been here for 4 years but if he was that good CL would have already seen it and before him MA.

He is 20 this year and signed a pro contract in 2003 so he isn't as Hoof was saying still on his scholar contract. 

Cl obviouslty thinks he can get a better player for the same money or he would have kept him.

The manager has seen more of this player than any of us since hes been here and his name has never been mentioned when he has talked about our young players where as stearman, Porter and Sheenan have, so its not as if he has a downer on young players like MA just he doesn't fancy this one much.

Football is about opinions and only time will tell but for me i will go with the manager on this one and wish the lad all the best.

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I'm am pretty sure he was only signed on a scholar contract, I read it somewhere. If i'm wrong, i'll hold my hands up but I doubt I am. Whatever contract he's on, I guarantee he's on peanuts.

Your the first person not to rate him who i've spoke to. Time will tell, I just hope he goes to a team who plays him as he deserves it. Let's hope he doesn't go to somewhere like Hull and score on his return.

I'm feeling surprisingly calm since i've heard the news, if this was Adams who had done this i'd kick off. As i've said, Levein know's what he's doing but more decisions like this and i'll throw the towel in.

Time for Wesolowski to stand up and be counted, i'll forget about Super Stevie Dawson then.

[Hutber's Law]

Sorry but i can't say as i am overlly concerned.

I only saw him play 4 or 5 times and i would class him as reasonable but he hardly set the pitch on fire with glaring talent that some people are going on about.

I feel for the lad as he has been here for 4 years but if he was that good CL would have already seen it and before him MA.

He is 20 this year and signed a pro contract in 2003 so he isn't as Hoof was saying still on his scholar contract. 

Cl obviouslty thinks he can get a better player for the same money or he would have kept him.

The manager has seen more of this player than any of us since hes been here and his name has never been mentioned when he has talked about our young players where as stearman, Porter and Sheenan have, so its not as if he has a downer on young players like MA just he doesn't fancy this one much.

Football is about opinions and only time will tell but for me i will go with the manager on this one and wish the lad all the best.

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I'm am pretty sure he was only signed on a scholar contract, I read it somewhere. If i'm wrong, i'll hold my hands up but I doubt I am. Whatever contract he's on, I guarantee he's on peanuts.

Your the first person not to rate him who i've spoke to. Time will tell, I just hope he goes to a team who plays him as he deserves it. Let's hope he doesn't go to somewhere like Hull and score on his return.

I'm feeling surprisingly calm since i've heard the news, if this was Adams who had done this i'd kick off. As i've said, Levein know's what he's doing but more decisions like this and i'll throw the towel in.

Time for Wesolowski to stand up and be counted, i'll forget about Super Stevie Dawson then.

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No pressure then!

[Fez of Mahrez]

Big man Hoof. Chin up, there's a lot to be optimistic about next season.

[Ric Flair]

Still think you are wrong on the conetract point hoof, and I have seen him play a few times but not as many as you or CL probably.

But if its okay with you I'll trust CL's judgement (based on Maybury, McCarthy, Kenton and Hughes though probably not De Vries!) rather than you.

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I might be wrong, but for some reason it's in my head he was only on a scholar contract. I swear I read that somewhere, even so to offer him reduced terms on what can only be a small wage anyway is abit cheeky if you ask me.

[Ian]

Sorry but i can't say as i am overlly concerned.

I only saw him play 4 or 5 times and i would class him as reasonable but he hardly set the pitch on fire with glaring talent that some people are going on about.

I feel for the lad as he has been here for 4 years but if he was that good CL would have already seen it and before him MA.

He is 20 this year and signed a pro contract in 2003 so he isn't as Hoof was saying still on his scholar contract. 

Cl obviouslty thinks he can get a better player for the same money or he would have kept him.

The manager has seen more of this player than any of us since hes been here and his name has never been mentioned when he has talked about our young players where as stearman, Porter and Sheenan have, so its not as if he has a downer on young players like MA just he doesn't fancy this one much.

Football is about opinions and only time will tell but for me i will go with the manager on this one and wish the lad all the best.

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I'm am pretty sure he was only signed on a scholar contract, I read it somewhere. If i'm wrong, i'll hold my hands up but I doubt I am. Whatever contract he's on, I guarantee he's on peanuts.

Your the first person not to rate him who i've spoke to. Time will tell, I just hope he goes to a team who plays him as he deserves it. Let's hope he doesn't go to somewhere like Hull and score on his return.

I'm feeling surprisingly calm since i've heard the news, if this was Adams who had done this i'd kick off. As i've said, Levein know's what he's doing but more decisions like this and i'll throw the towel in.

Time for Wesolowski to stand up and be counted, i'll forget about Super Stevie Dawson then.

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The only reason i think he was on a Pro contract was i seem to recall he and Logan both signed Pro in 2003 but i might be wrong.

As for him going to Hull or Coventry all our ex players tend to do this and then score against us.....Heskey, Cresswell etc ect but i can't think of many (young) players who we have released over the years that have gone onto anything majorly big.

I hopr like you that CL has something up is sleeve in general for our squad because it does look abit thin at the momment.

[BartonFox]

I think most folk are disappointed at the Dawson 'saga' and I hope he doesn't come back and bite us in the arse.

The one thing that does strike me though is the fact that CL bigged him up during his first few weeks then we heard diddly-squat which suggets something might have gone on between coaches and player.

[Louise]

If he doesn't want to sign for us, good riddance. There is no point paying a reserve/fringe player the same as the first teamers, no matter how good he supposedly is. Clearly his agent has been in his ear telling him he's better than he is and should be on better money. At 19 he should still have enough passion for the game, and enough need to prove himself that he should take whatever is offered (which might be a 'reduced' contract but will still be more than a lot of us earn a week). Seeing as he hasn't his heart is obviously not at the club and so I don't care that he's gone.

We expected Hirschfeld to go too so that's no surprise. I'm not sure about that statement about Wilcox, although it could just be lazy journalism (of the like we usually see on the OS) and he might just not have been called into the office to be given his marching orders yet.