colbo68 Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 I'm ever impressed with the perpetual optimism of the City faithful. Without doubt, the performance at Cov deserved a win and we look like we are going to give some team a good spanking if everything gels. HOWEVER...... the table don't lie and football is a points business - 2 points from a possible 15 is relegation form and, in business, would have warranted a sacking.... How long do we give Sousa to get it right? If we lose to Cardiff tomorrow do we then start to become very concerned? Not being pessimistic, just looking at facts.... Opinions please
Houdini Logic Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 Yep, Blackpool for Champions League next year then. Fool
Lillehamring Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 I'm ever impressed with the perpetual optimism of the City faithful. Without doubt, the performance at Cov deserved a win and we look like we are going to give some team a good spanking if everything gels. HOWEVER...... the table don't lie and football is a points business - 2 points from a possible 15 is relegation form and, in business, would have warranted a sacking.... How long do we give Sousa to get it right? If we lose to Cardiff tomorrow do we then start to become very concerned? Not being pessimistic, just looking at facts.... Opinions please This sort of knee jerk thread is starting to bore me and hardly warrants a reply - but i'm sick and in the mood for it. It's only relegation form if it's spread over a season, over 5 games, at any other point in the season it would be 'a blip'. whilst the table may not lie, it reveals other truths than just that we are second bottom on two points, it reveals that there are plenty of decent teams in similar positions to us, a couple of results (and at least we look capable of winning) and we'll be back up pushing for the playoffs. it's very unlikely that we will have two teams as dominant as newcastle or WBA this season, the rest don't look especially brilliant or even consistent. I can't think of any business where a manager would be employed to perform a restructure of staff, and in the first few weeks of his job have said staff performing in a completely different way and to a reasonable standard - and then be sacked within the first month. Not good business practice. i don't get you lot sometimes - we go through a phase of half a dozen odd managers in the space of a couple of seasons and play the worst footy ever, finally get some stability, finally mandaric learns to be patient and you lot want him to start sacking people after 10 minutes because 'the table dont lie'. Lord help us.
artursteppe Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 I'm ever impressed with the perpetual optimism of the City faithful. Without doubt, the performance at Cov deserved a win and we look like we are going to give some team a good spanking if everything gels. HOWEVER...... the table don't lie and football is a points business - 2 points from a possible 15 is relegation form and, in business, would have warranted a sacking.... How long do we give Sousa to get it right? If we lose to Cardiff tomorrow do we then start to become very concerned? Not being pessimistic, just looking at facts.... Opinions please What absolute crass drivel, presumably from someone who has the analytical aptitude of the peanuts monkeys eat, not even the monkeys. This bloke would have sacked the much loved and highly respected Martin O'Neil well before his eighth game in charge when he started his on -going surge up two tables. Paulo will do the same. If he were a Man U supporter, and they had used the same decision making process as this chap, Fergie and all his huge and numerous successes since his tenure begin, ( and there were many United supporters who wanted him sacked early when he seemed to be rubbish ) would never have happened. I can only imagine this guy's bizarre logic is a joke. No true Leicester fan can be that daft, can they?
Simo86 Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 Yep, Blackpool for Champions League next year then. Fool I was thinking exactly the same thing!
Bellend Sebastian Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 The table told ME he's going out for dinner with Roy Walker. In fairness to the topic starter, they're just asking for opinions rather than it being yet another SOUSA MUST GO thread. I'll provide my stock answer, that it's madness to be considering a managerial change when the side is producing performances that are tantalisingly close to providing results, when the alternative is to throw everything up in the air again in the hope that that yields some sort of improvement. It's a bit grey today, innit? Very grey
SouthLondonFox Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 Is there some kind of competition for coming up with new threads that essentially say the same thing? Ffs it's boring...
FrankieADZ Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 Alrighty then, <_< Altho, I'd be more concerned if we was in the state West Ham Utd where in.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 Is there some kind of competition for coming up with new threads that essentially say the same thing? Ffs it's boring... It's the burning issue. I thought about starting a thread about Sousa's recent haircut and his trousers not being quite long enough, but I don't think it would capture everyone's imagination enough to make it a classic
colbo68 Posted 13 September 2010 Author Posted 13 September 2010 The table told ME he's going out for dinner with Roy Walker. In fairness to the topic starter, they're just asking for opinions rather than it being yet another SOUSA MUST GO thread. I'll provide my stock answer, that it's madness to be considering a managerial change when the side is producing performances that are tantalisingly close to providing results, when the alternative is to throw everything up in the air again in the hope that that yields some sort of improvement. It's a bit grey today, innit? Very grey Thank-you for speaking some sense... as you say, I was asking for opinions on this...as in how long can we go with playing 'attractive football' and not winning games - lose the next two and the season is effectively over in terms of mounting a realistic push, isnt it? I'm a lifelong City fan and remember those of you who stated for months that City were too good to go down under Ollie..look what happened there.... have we now got the players to play Sousa's style of football?...and I simply ask again, how long do we give it? Not saying Sousa must go... i'm asking for opinions on when we should consider a change... one poster said above that we need to give him till Christmas? what.....even if we lose the next three or four games?
Sooper Steve's shin Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 If we had been playing rubbish in all five games, I might be questioning the appointment at this stage. As it is, we have probably deserved more than we got in four of our five games (which is not just optimism or blinkered thinking, but the general view of neutrals and most reasonable opposition fans in all those games). That would have given us a solid-to-good start and we'd be full of the joys (in fact, we'd probably have countless threads talking about who to sign when we get promotion). I am, of course, getting nervous about getting the first win on the board - particularly when I look at the next two fixtures - but I am also fully aware that this league (and probably this year more than ever) is one where a decent run at any point in the season will lift any team into contention. As Valerenga points out above, there does not seem to be any dominant team this season so I think even the automatic promotion spots are still realistically in our sights if we can start to turn performances into results. On the basis of our current position, that means every team in the league could still potentially be in with a shout of going up (although only a proportion of them have an objectively reasonable chance of thinking they could sustain it).
artursteppe Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 Thank-you for speaking some sense... as you say, I was asking for opinions on this...as in how long can we go with playing 'attractive football' and not winning games - lose the next two and the season is effectively over in terms of mounting a realistic push, isnt it? I'm a lifelong City fan and remember those of you who stated for months that City were too good to go down under Ollie..look what happened there.... have we now got the players to play Sousa's style of football?...and I simply ask again, how long do we give it? Not saying Sousa must go... i'm asking for opinions on when we should consider a change... one poster said above that we need to give him till Christmas? what.....even if we lose the next three or four games? Have we got the same strikers we had last year? Are we creating more, the same, or fewer chances for the strikers. Answers on a postcard, please. I'm off this stupid thread now. Or wait a minute here's a thought..................... When a team creates as many chances with the same players as the season before but don't score the goals, SACK THE MANAGER and get the old boring one back, you know it makes sense. ( It seems to make sense to some Leicester fans anyway ).
Lillehamring Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 I'm ever impressed with the perpetual optimism of the City faithful. Without doubt, the performance at Cov deserved a win and we look like we are going to give some team a good spanking if everything gels. HOWEVER...... the table don't lie and football is a points business - 2 points from a possible 15 is relegation form and, in business, would have warranted a sacking.... How long do we give Sousa to get it right? If we lose to Cardiff tomorrow do we then start to become very concerned? Not being pessimistic, just looking at facts.... Opinions please Thank-you for speaking some sense... as you say, I was asking for opinions on this...as in how long can we go with playing 'attractive football' and not winning games - lose the next two and the season is effectively over in terms of mounting a realistic push, isnt it? I'm a lifelong City fan and remember those of you who stated for months that City were too good to go down under Ollie..look what happened there.... have we now got the players to play Sousa's style of football?...and I simply ask again, how long do we give it? Not saying Sousa must go... i'm asking for opinions on when we should consider a change... one poster said above that we need to give him till Christmas? what.....even if we lose the next three or four games? so, first you make a daft post that is effectively another sousa out thread, and then, when you get totally shot down, you're conveniently just starting a debate...about sacking sousa in your first post you clearly make a statement, it is pretty clear that that was what you are thinking, regardless of whether you have opened it up to debate. no matter how you dress it up, this is another 'sack sousa' thread -
Pegosteve Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 This sort of knee jerk thread is starting to bore me and hardly warrants a reply - but i'm sick and in the mood for it. It's only relegation form if it's spread over a season, over 5 games, at any other point in the season it would be 'a blip'. whilst the table may not lie, it reveals other truths than just that we are second bottom on two points, it reveals that there are plenty of decent teams in similar positions to us, a couple of results (and at least we look capable of winning) and we'll be back up pushing for the playoffs. it's very unlikely that we will have two teams as dominant as newcastle or WBA this season, the rest don't look especially brilliant or even consistent. I can't think of any business where a manager would be employed to perform a restructure of staff, and in the first few weeks of his job have said staff performing in a completely different way and to a reasonable standard - and then be sacked within the first month. Not good business practice. i don't get you lot sometimes - we go through a phase of half a dozen odd managers in the space of a couple of seasons and play the worst footy ever, finally get some stability, finally mandaric learns to be patient and you lot want him to start sacking people after 10 minutes because 'the table dont lie'. Lord help us. Totally agree.
Wymsey Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 This sort of knee jerk thread is starting to bore me and hardly warrants a reply - but i'm sick and in the mood for it. It's only relegation form if it's spread over a season, over 5 games, at any other point in the season it would be 'a blip'. whilst the table may not lie, it reveals other truths than just that we are second bottom on two points, it reveals that there are plenty of decent teams in similar positions to us, a couple of results (and at least we look capable of winning) and we'll be back up pushing for the playoffs. it's very unlikely that we will have two teams as dominant as newcastle or WBA this season, the rest don't look especially brilliant or even consistent. I can't think of any business where a manager would be employed to perform a restructure of staff, and in the first few weeks of his job have said staff performing in a completely different way and to a reasonable standard - and then be sacked within the first month. Not good business practice. i don't get you lot sometimes - we go through a phase of half a dozen odd managers in the space of a couple of seasons and play the worst footy ever, finally get some stability, finally mandaric learns to be patient and you lot want him to start sacking people after 10 minutes because 'the table dont lie'. Lord help us. You mean Sousa help us here
buzzy Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 This sort of knee jerk thread is starting to bore me and hardly warrants a reply - but i'm sick and in the mood for it. It's only relegation form if it's spread over a season, over 5 games, at any other point in the season it would be 'a blip'. whilst the table may not lie, it reveals other truths than just that we are second bottom on two points, it reveals that there are plenty of decent teams in similar positions to us, a couple of results (and at least we look capable of winning) and we'll be back up pushing for the playoffs. it's very unlikely that we will have two teams as dominant as newcastle or WBA this season, the rest don't look especially brilliant or even consistent. I can't think of any business where a manager would be employed to perform a restructure of staff, and in the first few weeks of his job have said staff performing in a completely different way and to a reasonable standard - and then be sacked within the first month. Not good business practice. i don't get you lot sometimes - we go through a phase of half a dozen odd managers in the space of a couple of seasons and play the worst footy ever, finally get some stability, finally mandaric learns to be patient and you lot want him to start sacking people after 10 minutes because 'the table dont lie'. Lord help us. i agree with you. at last some sense on this forum
1964FOX Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 I agree with this thread, sack Sousa and get rid of the team. Get a new manager and team in and if they don't get us in the play off positions in a fortnight sack them all and get a new manager and team and if they don't get us in the play offs in the following fortnight sack them and if they don't...................................................................
Guest ttfn Posted 13 September 2010 Posted 13 September 2010 Bring back Martin O'Neill I've not read anybody post that at any stage. This forum's here for people to offer viewpoints. Also, people keep banging on about "all these 'Sousa out' threads". I've not seen any? Am I missing something? I agree with this thread, sack Sousa and get rid of the team. Get a new manager and team in and if they don't get us in the play off positions in a fortnight sack them all and get a new manager and team and if they don't get us in the play offs in the following fortnight sack them and if they don't................................................................... I hate to be a pedant, but our start has been so bad we couldn't possibly be in the play-offs within a fortnight, despite the fact that we have 3 games (and before anybody tries to be clever, the other fixtures being played would dictate that the 6th placed team would have at least 12 points by then).
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