Milan Mandaric

[bluefox9er]

And about Mandaric 'saving the club', it's very debateable how much trouble we were in. Plus, Portsmouth are in more trouble than us now than we were when Mandaric took over - they have not gone under and are above us in the League! We are looking at 2 relegations to league 1 in 4 years!

This Mandaric's fault for his poor choice of managers and then getting rid of a good one. He is to blame and I will never forgive him for the relegation and letting Pearson go.

the relegation in as far as Manadric is to blame was down to appointing that arsehole Holloway as manager. he has flukily taken Blackpool to the premier league and his arse is covered both ways..if they stay up, he's a genius and if they go down then it was expected. Holloway singlehandedly dismantled Leicester City Football Club , much in the same way as Peter Taylor did and it took a miracle in the shape of NP to get the club back on track...and that took great effort on his part whilst that c**t holloway is bathed in glory and even has the media lauding what a great manager he is.

[Kitchandro]

He is not to blame for letting Pearson go, in order to facilitate the sale, he needed to get someone in to appease the buyers, sound business move. While us and Hull are in the same division next season and we are shot of Mandaric no one will be mourning the loss of Pearson.

So he is to blame then. He got rid of him to 'facilitate the sale'. That is not a sound business move, Pearson was far more valuable than these new owners (who I might add, haven't been confirmed as owners). If you've got a moron like Sousa in charge, money means fook all. Even the best players in the world will play shit if they are on the bench, being played out of position and with no confidence.

You seriously think that letting Pearson go was a sound business move for Leicester City?

And we and Hull will not be in the same division the way we're going. We'll be in league 1, Hull certainly won't.

[HonradaRaposa]

In virtually every managerial role Pearson has had, he has succeeded.

- 4 game caretaker manager spell at West Brom - won 3, drew 1, lost 0

- 4 month spell at Southampton - Kept them up at our expense.

- 2 years at us - Got us promoted, and then into the playoffs

We're getting there, he hasn't taken any Club up out of this division though has he, and his start at Hull isn't all that given their ex-Premiership squad. But there are those on here who portray him as infallible.

[HonradaRaposa]

So he is to blame then. He got rid of him to 'facilitate the sale'. That is not a sound business move, Pearson was far more valuable than these new owners (who I might add, haven't been confirmed as owners). If you've got a moron like Sousa in charge, money means fook all. Even the best players in the world will play shit if they are on the bench, being played out of position and with no confidence.

You seriously think that letting Pearson go was a sound business move for Leicester City?

And we and Hull will not be in the same division the way we're going. We'll be in league 1, Hull certainly won't.

Yes I do, otherwise we would be stuck with Mandaric and no investment, it is a small price to pay to get rid of him. But hey if you want to focus on short term, rather than the medium and long term then you do that.

it's that kind of blinkered view that leads to people building Pearson up to be somethign he wasn't.

[bluefox9er]

So he is to blame then. He got rid of him to 'facilitate the sale'. That is not a sound business move, Pearson was far more valuable than these new owners (who I might add, haven't been confirmed as owners). If you've got a moron like Sousa in charge, money means fook all. Even the best players in the world will play shit if they are on the bench, being played out of position and with no confidence.

You seriously think that letting Pearson go was a sound business move for Leicester City?

And we and Hull will not be in the same division the way we're going. We'll be in league 1, Hull certainly won't.

getting rid of NP wasn't a business decision at all, it was a personal one. who in their right mind would so easily let a manager go who has installed stability and continuity to a team that was going no where but languish in the lower leagues for all eternity?

It's only city fans that see our club as a 'big club', capable of attracting big name managers/owners/players. we must be delusional!!!!

[HonradaRaposa]

getting rid of NP wasn't a business decision at all, it was a personal one. who in their right mind would so easily let a manager go who has installed stability and continuity to a team that was going no where but languish in the lower leagues for all eternity?

It's only city fans that see our club as a 'big club', capable of attracting big name managers/owners/players. we must be delusional!!!!

The new owners wanted a different manager, in order for the sale to proceed Mandaric had to let Pearson go, Mandaric doesn't care what happens to us, all he wanted was his money back with interest. As a businessman who can blame him and well done for getting the deal he wanted.

As a supporter we may not want to hear that but that's the way the world goes round.

[Kitchandro]

Yes I do, otherwise we would be stuck with Mandaric and no investment, it is a small price to pay to get rid of him. But hey if you want to focus on short term, rather than the medium and long term then you do that.

it's that kind of blinkered view that leads to people building Pearson up to be somethign he wasn't.

We didn't have investment before yet we still finished 5th. After just coming up from League 1. Look, as I've said investment means nothing if you've got the wrong manager. If we go down to league 1 how much longer do you think the investment is going to be here?

Lets talk long term. Leicester City have won the FA Cup? No. Champions League? No. Champions of England? No

Leicester City have tended to bounce between the top 2 divisions, and in 125 years, have won 3 League Cups. So why do you demand Pearson wins a trophy in 2 years? You sir, are thinking about short term. Had Pearson been given more time, I'm convinced we would be in the Premiership in a couple of years. And why couldn't we win a trophy then?

[breadandcheese]

We're getting there, he hasn't taken any Club up out of this division though has he, and his start at Hull isn't all that given their ex-Premiership squad. But there are those on here who portray him as infallible.

He has had the opportunity only once and he took us to the play-offs. Bearing in mind that we were predicted to finish mid-table, we over-achieved.

It will be interesting to see how he does at Hull, but I would fancy them to reach the premier league quicker than us.

[HonradaRaposa]

We didn't have investment before yet we still finished 5th. After just coming up from League 1. Look, as I've said investment means nothing if you've got the wrong manager. If we go down to league 1 how much longer do you think the investment is going to be here?

Lets talk long term. Leicester City have won the FA Cup? No. Champions League? No. Champions of England? No

Leicester City have tended to bounce between the top 2 divisions, and in 125 years, have won 3 League Cups. So why do you demand Pearson wins a trophy in 2 years? You sir, are thinking about short term. Had Pearson been given more time, I'm convinced we would be in the Premiership in a couple of years. And why couldn't we win a trophy then?

There had to be a sale, Mandaric would be resrticting his investment further, if Pearson was still here and no Thai investment I'd have us in the same situation.

He has had the opportunity only once and he took us to the play-offs. Bearing in mind that we were predicted to finish mid-table, we over-achieved.

It will be interesting to see how he does at Hull, but I would fancy them to reach the premier league quicker than us.

He'll have a season then HMRC and the banks will come a calling.

[Kitchandro]

There had to be a sale, Mandaric would be resrticting his investment further, if Pearson was still here and no Thai investment I'd have us in the same situation.

He'll have a season then HMRC and the banks will come a calling.

Where's your logic here? Pearson would have had pretty much the same squad as last season. Last season we finished 5th. So why would we have dropped 19 places? Explain that to me. Lack of investment may have stopped us from finishing in the top 2, but not the top 6. We had a happy squad and knew what our best team was. Sousa has destroyed all confidence and doesn't know which players to play. This is why we are bottom. Investment gives you money to improve the sqaud, not stop it from getting worse.

Pearson is a good manager. He wouldn't have made the mistakes Sousa has made. We are not bootom because our squad isn't good enough, we are bottom because Sousa is shit. END OF.

[HonradaRaposa]

Where's your logic here? Pearson would have had pretty much the same squad as last season. Last season we finished 5th. So why would we have dropped 19 places? Explain that to me. Lack of investment may have stopped us from finishing in the top 2, but not the top 6. We had a happy squad and knew what our best team was. Sousa has destroyed all confidence and doesn't know which players to play. This is why we are bottom. Investment gives you money to improve the sqaud, not stop it from getting worse.

Pearson is a good manager. He wouldn't have made the mistakes Sousa has made. We are not bootom because our squad isn't good enough, we are bottom because Sousa is shit. END OF.

We wouldn't have signed Waghorn in any capacity, Brown was gone. There would have been no loans a la Spearing, McGivern or Vaughan. Also he wanted Robert Koren, Salif Diao and James Harper but none were coming here as there was no money.

So go on tell me how he would have kept us top 6 with what remained.

[broughtonblue]

Seem to remember loads of fans singing 'milan is a Leicester fan, Milan is a Leicester fan' not that long ago. What a fickle bunch some of you are!

[Wymsey]

Seem to remember loads of fans singing 'milan is a Leicester fan, Milan is a Leicester fan' not that long ago. What a fickle bunch some of you are!

haven't heard it this season. It was last season when everything was actually going RIGHT for the club. Oh the good old days have long passed

[Kitchandro]

We wouldn't have signed Waghorn in any capacity, Brown was gone. There would have been no loans a la Spearing, McGivern or Vaughan. Also he wanted Robert Koren, Salif Diao and James Harper but none were coming here as there was no money.

So go on tell me how he would have kept us top 6 with what remained.

Yeh, that's right, cos Pearson never signed Waghorn previously on loan which turned out to be very successful. What you think Waghorn wanted to play for Sousa??!!! Waghorn was clearly a Mandaric signing to appease the fans after a shit start.

McGivern was shit, Spearing and Vaughan bit part and in no way key to our success.

Brown is purely an old fahioned thug of a centre back who can head the ball. Easily replaced. Why would we need Koren, Diao and Harper? We didn't need them last season.

And he could have got other players in on loan, may I remind you, the loan system was not a one off for the 2009/10 season

[HonradaRaposa]

Yeh, that's right, cos Pearson never signed Waghorn previously on loan which turned out to be very successful. What you think Waghorn wanted to play for Sousa??!!! Waghorn was clearly a Mandaric signing to appease the fans after a shit start.

McGivern was shit, Spearing and Vaughan bit part and in no way key to our success.

Brown is purely an old fahioned thug of a centre back who can head the ball. Easily replaced. Why would we need Koren, Diao and Harper? We didn't need them last season.

And he could have got other players in on loan, may I remind you, the loan system was not a one off for the 2009/10 season

I'll do the math for you. Five players there missing from last seasons squad.

Can you explain how these signings, loans or permanent would have been financed and by whom?

[broughtonblue]

Yeh, that's right, cos Pearson never signed Waghorn previously on loan which turned out to be very successful. What you think Waghorn wanted to play for Sousa??!!! Waghorn was clearly a Mandaric signing to appease the fans after a shit start.

McGivern was shit, Spearing and Vaughan bit part and in no way key to our success.

Brown is purely an old fahioned thug of a centre back who can head the ball. Easily replaced. Why would we need Koren, Diao and Harper? We didn't need them last season.

And he could have got other players in on loan, may I remind you, the loan system was not a one off for the 2009/10 season

Tend to agree with most of this except, if brown who could head the ball is easily replaced, why haven't we done it yet? I feel this is the area that is causing us too leak so many goals this season

[Kitchandro]

I'll do the math for you. Five players there missing from last seasons squad.

Can you explain how these signings, loans or permanent would have been financed and by whom?

Right, as I said - McGivern, Spearing, Vaughan - not important.

Brown was bought on the cheap when we were in League 1. HE is our biggest loss IMO.

As for Waghorn, he's a waste of space on the wing anyway. What's the point in spending £3 million on him and putting him on the wing? Do you think that £3 million is looking shrewd business at the moment?

Even without loads of money, Pearson has unearthed gems and brought some in on loan as well (may I remind you there are wages but no signing fee for loan players) so why couldn't he do it again?

[HonradaRaposa]

Right, as I said - McGivern, Spearing, Vaughan - not important.

Brown was bought on the cheap when we were in League 1. HE is our biggest loss IMO.

As for Waghorn, he's a waste of space on the wing anyway. What's the point in spending £3 million on him and putting him on the wing? Do you think that £3 million is looking shrewd business at the moment?

Even without loads of money, Pearson has unearthed gems and brought some in on loan as well (may I remind you there are wages but no signing fee for loan players) so why couldn't he do it again?

Thanks for that, you have just demonstrated you know sod all about football.

Right, as I said - McGivern, Spearing, Vaughan - not important.

So we go in to a new season 3 players down, because there was no money to replace them.

Brown was bought on the cheap when we were in League 1. HE is our biggest loss IMO.

He was replaced by a left back from Rochdale, there was no other money.

As for Waghorn, he's a waste of space on the wing anyway. What's the point in spending £3 million on him and putting him on the wing? Do you think that £3 million is looking shrewd business at the moment?

He wouldn't be here this season in any capacity because under Mandaric there would have been no money for either his wages, loan fee or potential transfer fee.

Even without loads of money, Pearson has unearthed gems and brought some in on loan as well (may I remind you there are wages but no signing fee for loan players) so why couldn't he do it again?

You are so niave if you think the loaning club doesn't command a fee. Where were these gems coming from, Mandaric would not have made any money available.

Which part of no more money from Mandaric are you not understanding?

[Kitchandro]

Thanks for that, you have just demonstrated you know sod all about football.

So we go in to a new season 3 players down, because there was no money to replace them.

He was replaced by a left back from Rochdale, there was no other money.

He wouldn't be here this season in any capacity because under Mandaric there would have been no money for either his wages, loan fee or potential transfer fee.

You are so niave if you think the loaning club doesn't command a fee. Where were these gems coming from, Mandaric would not have made any money available.

Which part of no more money from Mandaric are you not understanding?

We didn't need to replace them!

You do not buy loan players, you only pay their wages! In Cardiff's case you don't even do that!

I don't understand your point about Brown. He was an important player for us. Wouldn't cost much to replace him though.

Anyway how do you know there was no money?

Pearson didn't break the bank when he was here, we still finished 5th. HE is a shrewd businessman, in the transfer market.

[HonradaRaposa]

We didn't need to replace them!

You do not buy loan players, you only pay their wages! In Cardiff's case you don't even do that!

I don't understand your point about Brown. He was an important player for us. Wouldn't cost much to replace him though.

Anyway how do you know there was no money?

Pearson didn't break the bank when he was here, we still finished 5th. HE is a shrewd businessman, in the transfer market.

Because if there was Mandaric would have made funds available last January for Pearson he didn't.

Mandaric was pulling all his support streams, why do you think The Birch was going?

[Vestan Pance]

On a slightly different point, if we are assuming that Milan appointed Sousa to aid the sale to the Thais, then can we assume that the 'new owners' know absolutely nothing about football? How can we be a better prospect with a manager that has zero reputation? I honestly don't believe that these people are so stupid, and don't believe this to be the sole reason why Pearson left.

[Kitchandro]

Because if there was Mandaric would have made funds available last January for Pearson he didn't.

Mandaric was pulling all his support streams, why do you think The Birch was going?

I don't believe he is that skint, just a tight-arse. He got bored sometime ago when he realised his 3-year plan was going tits up. You have no actual proof to suggest he is skint.

Yes we didn't splash the cash in January, yet we still finished 5th. So why are you saying that couldn't happen again?

[l444ry]

On a slightly different point, if we are assuming that Milan appointed Sousa to aid the sale to the Thais, then can we assume that the 'new owners' know absolutely nothing about football? How can we be a better prospect with a manager that has zero reputation? I honestly don't believe that these people are so stupid, and don't believe this to be the sole reason why Pearson left.

Agreed. So much hot air based on no substance!

[Vestan Pance]

Because if there was Mandaric would have made funds available last January for Pearson he didn't.

Mandaric was pulling all his support streams, why do you think The Birch was going?

Was the Birch going because he was 65?

[MrSpaM]

Theirs no denying Milan saved our club from the brink of non existance, but the way this takeover has been done is diabolical. The fans have been told nothing, and what they have been told has turned out to be rubbish mostly.

How many times have we been told the takeover will take "one more week"?

The sooner the takeover is finalised the sooner we can start moving on.