Dr The Singh Posted 27 October 2010 Posted 27 October 2010 Second goal was the killing point, we had momentum and looked threatening, after that the teams head just dropped. But saying that West Brom, played in 3rd gear and you felt at anytime they could up a gear and demolish our team. The pace and quality was there, and I was especially impressed with the teams movement, it was precise and very accurate! To compete with a very good team till the 60th minute was very good! Last 30 minutes was pants!
Alf Bentley Posted 27 October 2010 Posted 27 October 2010 Its the formation and subs that I dont understand. Playing a big slow centre forward up front, alone who appeared to spend more time trundling forward from a midfield position than around the box was never going to work. The subs is what took it out the game not Logans feck up. Why did he take King off? and how Lamey can call himself a professional footballer is beyon me! I have never witnessed such a useless player in a city shirt in all my years, we would have been better if we had not replaced Neilson. Fryatt looked slow and off the pace. Sven has a lot of work to do. Re. formation: I imagine he rightly played 4-5-1 as he knew that WBA had more able, mobile players who'd have murdered us in midfield with 4-4-2. If playing 1 striker, Howard is the obvious choice. Fryatt on his own would've been worse. Waghorn was cup-tied, Vassell not match fit, Crncic presumably not rated. Yes, Howard is limited, but the onus was on the attacking midfielders (King, Dyer, Gallagher) to join the attack, which they did to some extent. Re. subs: Wellens for Dyer improved our performance, as Dyer had faded and Wellens was lively. Fryatt for King was tactical, going 4-4-2 to try to get an equaliser; King had been no better than OK and had not contributed much in attack, whereas Abe and Moussa are more combative, so that seems a fair decision...presumably Sven hoped Matty would perform better than he did. Lamey for Neilson was forced as Neilson had just been knocked unconsious...I know Lamey was poor, but surely Neilson lying out cold on the turf wouldn't have been any better! Sven does indeed have a lot of work to do, though!
breadandcheese Posted 27 October 2010 Posted 27 October 2010 It was a joy to see two very good wingers in a team. Sadly, they were playing for West Brom and not us. At the end of the day, their reserve team was a class above our reserves. I'd like to see a midfield pairing of Wellens and Abe in the next game, primarily because Abe provides some energy and Wellens likes to spot the pass. I also echo comments about not playing Howard upfront by himself. he's just not mobile enough.
Geordie Posted 27 October 2010 Posted 27 October 2010 Re. formation: I imagine he rightly played 4-5-1 as he knew that WBA had more able, mobile players who'd have murdered us in midfield with 4-4-2. If playing 1 striker, Howard is the obvious choice. Fryatt on his own would've been worse. Waghorn was cup-tied, Vassell not match fit, Crncic presumably not rated. Yes, Howard is limited, but the onus was on the attacking midfielders (King, Dyer, Gallagher) to join the attack, which they did to some extent. Re. subs: Wellens for Dyer improved our performance, as Dyer had faded and Wellens was lively. Fryatt for King was tactical, going 4-4-2 to try to get an equaliser; King had been no better than OK and had not contributed much in attack, whereas Abe and Moussa are more combative, so that seems a fair decision...presumably Sven hoped Matty would perform better than he did. Lamey for Neilson was forced as Neilson had just been knocked unconsious...I know Lamey was poor, but surely Neilson lying out cold on the turf wouldn't have been any better! Sven does indeed have a lot of work to do, though! Is today opposite day
Geordie Posted 27 October 2010 Posted 27 October 2010 It was a joy to see two very good wingers in a team. Sadly, they were playing for West Brom and not us. At the end of the day, their reserve team was a class above our reserves. I'd like to see a midfield pairing of Wellens and Abe in the next game, primarily because Abe provides some energy and Wellens likes to spot the pass. I also echo comments about not playing Howard upfront by himself. he's just not mobile enough. Shame he lacks the ability to perform it. Did you like his pass to Gallagher? You must remember when he was 20 yards from goal and central, he looked up saw Gallagher 5 yards offside and instead of shooting dinked a cute pass to the offside Gallagher
SMX11 Posted 27 October 2010 Posted 27 October 2010 I don't think we need to overreact with this result. At the end of the day we got spanked by them twice last year under the never can do wrong Pearson, so it wasn't suprising that we got beat. Infact I thought we played well for the majority of the game, better than West Brom for large chunks, which is very encouraging. The only real gripe I have is the seemingly poor mental strength we have. When that second goal went in for them, you can just see that they lose the will to fight. If they can't grow a pair and start to react better to going one down we aren't going to get anywhere near the top half. IMO this is the biggest quality you need in this division, Blackpool last year opitimised this and whenever that went a goal down they had the belief that they can comeback into the game and most of the time they did. They went 2-0 (I think) down to a strong Cardiff team in a massive game at Wembley and in a matter of a 10-15 minute period they were 3-2 up. The rest was history.
Corky Posted 27 October 2010 Posted 27 October 2010 4-1 was a bit harsh on us, we competed very well for 75 minutes but when the third went in it was all over. There were encouraging signs last night, Vitor looked very assured against Bednar, Moussa continues to impress and Abe looked far more comfortable in the centre. The second goal was the turning point. We had some momentum after scoring but that seemed to understandably knock us back. All-in-all it wasn't a thrashing in terms of performance, we weren't outplayed, they were clinical in front of goal and always dangerous, as you'd expect from a Premier League team full of confidence.
the_foxes_till_i_die Posted 27 October 2010 Posted 27 October 2010 Can't see to find the highlights anywhere. Any links?
lcfc_jme Posted 27 October 2010 Posted 27 October 2010 We were on top, couldn't score, they went down the other end, scored and bossed the rest of the first half. 2nd half we came out flying, equalised and matched them until Conrad fvcked up. Such is life. Conrad's error does not excuse our dreadful defending for goals 1, 3 and 4 though. Horrible stuff. Not sure if we're ever going to score from a set-piece either. Fvck me. Still, now we're out we can concentrate on trying to stabilise ourselves in the league. 'Til the FA Cup comes around anyway. Then we can focus on winning that. Which we will, obviously.
The Doctor Posted 28 October 2010 Author Posted 28 October 2010 Can't see to find the highlights anywhere. Any links? ta-dah
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