Brizzel Player Ratings ?

[bald reynard]

Can those who've survived the scrumpy, post some Lessta player ratings please ?

[Jfox]

Weale 5

Naughton 7

Hobbs 6

Davies 6

Cunningham 6

Abe 7

Wellens 7

King 7

Gallagher 6

Vassell 6

Howard 7

[Guest ttfn]

Weale 5 - Did everything that could be expected of him until the end. Then misjudged a throw which cost a goal. The life of a goalie.

Naughton 7 - His raids forward were frequent, but not as effective today. On one particular occasion he had plenty of time and space to pick a pass inside the area and passed it straight to James. Infuriating, but a decent display nonetheless.

Davies & Hobbs 7.5 - Never really looked in any bother.

Cunningham 6.5 - Seems good on the ball but I'm not sure about him defensively. Everything good about Bristol came from our left.

Abe 7 - Very busy as usual. Today his passing (which has until now been his best attribute) was poor but he won a lot of tackles in midfield and was largely responsible for us taking a grip on the centre of the park.

Wellens 6 - Hit and miss.

King 7 - Was at the heart of all our positive attacking moves and should have scored at least once. Let's hope the injury's not serious.

Vassell 5 - Not fit enough, and has an awful first touch, especially considering he's an ex-England international. Lloyd please.

Gallagher 6 - Largely ineffective, but one or two decent balls in. Never a centre forward in a million years, so god knows why we tried him there for even one minute with Waghorn and Fryatt twiddling their thumbs.

Howard 7.5 - Man of the match. Ultimately his poor penalty cost us, but he did everything in his power to make it up afterwards, winning virtually everything in the air.

This was a game we could, should and would have won on any other day.

[Gaffer]

Weale 5 - Was alright untill the end, solid but not consistent enough again.

Naughton 7 - Played well, some very good football.

Hobbs 6 .5- Getting back to his usual self, commanding but lacking something from last season, maybe pearson's tips and tricks as a CB?

Davies 6 - was alright, nothing special

Cunningham 6 - same as above

Abe 8 - class act today, motivated, didn't stop working MOTM for city at least.

Wellens 6.5 - did some good football but not consistent for 90 mins.

King 7 - shouldn't have been taken off really, didn't have enough going forward afterwards.

Gallagher 6 - corners still need work, some alright crosses that didn't lead to much.

Vassell 5 - poor, unfit, touch like an elephant. had one good mazy run before being subbed (too little too late aswell)

Howard 7 - yes he missed the penalty but worked his shift to make it up, not enough players getting onto his flick ons.

Waghorn 5 - did nothing special when he came on.

Fryatt 5 - same as above.

Dyer 6 - not enough time to make an impact, should have started.

PS. Pie rating 6/10, much marked improvement on Barnsley. Though lack of forks brought this down

[Shrew]

Weale 5

Naughton 7

Hobbs 8

Davies 7

Cunningham 6

Abe 7

King 7

Wellens 7

Gallagher 7

Howard 8

Vassell 5

High(ish) ratings I know, but all in all a decent display. Still don't understand how we lost today!!

[lcfc_jme]

Weale - 5

NaughtON - 7

Hobbs - 7

Davies - 6

Cunningham - 6

Abe - 7

King - 7

Wellens - 7

Gallagher - 6

Howard - 7 (Our MOTM - would've been 8 or 9 had he scored the pen)

Vassel - 5

Subs:

Lloyd - 5

Waghorn - 4

Fryatt - 1

[Guest Mee-9]

I thought Abe was MoM for us today.

[shiv]

Weale 5 - Shocking error, prefer Logan.

Naughton 7.5 - Great both going forward and defensively.

Hobbs 8 - Solid, almost back to his best.

Davies 7 - Did okay, maybe should have scored.

Cunningham 6.5 - As someone mentioned, great going forward but got caught out defensively.

Wellens 7 - Played well with some good passes but started to lose it towards the end.

Abe 8 - MOTM for me. Passing was great, tackling was great and got stuck in.

King 7 - Got into some great positions and quick feet for the penalty.

Gallagher 6 - Slow to the ball, second to every 50/50. Thought his corners were good though (even though we didn't score from them)

Vassell 6.5 - Showed good pace and went on one great run but his first touch was poor. Definitely lacking match practice.

Howard 7.5 - Unlucky with the penalty, great captain's performance.

SUBS

Dyer 6.5 - Would have liked to see him get the ball more when he came on.

Waghorn 6 - Didn't do a lot, worked hard as usual though.

Fryatt 6 - Although he didn't get much of the ball I thought he looked lively which makes a change.

[ciderhead]

BCFC fan here in peace. Have been following your excellent forum for some time and thought that you might just appreciate the 'oppositions' view on your boys performance yesterday/

Weale - 6. As previously stated a very good keeper with safe hands who a lot of our lot were very sad leave. First goal he really could not do a lot about it - good thinking from Pitman and then your defenders decided to have a snooze? As for the second he must have been aware what 'skills' that Clarkson has and if he had thrown that ball out to Clarky another 1,000 times it would never end up in the back of the net. Sadly despite not really having very much to do for the rest of the game (and that sums up your dominance, especially in the first half) he will be remembered for "that" goal???

Naughton - 5. Looked a tad light weight and not as good as his mate Walker who QPR presently have on loan from Spurs? As soon as Stead put any pressure on him he was getting rid of the ball anywhere - mostly in to the stand?

Davies - 3. Sorry but have to give such a low score PURELY for his reaction on the final whistle??? As soon as the ref blew (and I am sure he was disappointed like all of you were) he ran straight off the pitch without shaking hands with any of our players or his own team mates??? Must admit I really didnt notice him in the game.

Hobbs - 7. Good player who wins a lot in the air.

King - 7. Seems to create a lot of space and always appears to be ready to take a pass. But I thought he would have got forward more especially in the first half when you were all over us?

Wellens - 6. Have seen him play better. Passing radar appeared to be a little out yesterday and is it us or is it every season that he comes down the waist line has gone up a notch???

Cunningham - 7.5. Dont know where you have got him from - presumably on loan (Our programme is dire and full of crap about a new plastic stadium) but looked confident on the ball and gets forward at every opportunity?

Abe - 8.5. First half he would have got nearer 10 from us??? We really thought that both him AND his twin brother were on the pitch??? He was absolutely everywhere? The Duracell bunny springs to mind. Second half faded a tad after we changed our shape so he didnt have so much room to operate in but overall a class act and the type of player we could certainly do with.

Gallagher 5.5. Typical Paul Gallagher even when he used to play down at Ashton with Plymouth he was the same? Always looks like he has all the skill in the world especially from dead balls but rarely produces.

Vassell - 7. Purely on his first half performance when he was given the freedom of our left side and everything was coming through him? Again after we switched shape he became a lot less effective and there was no surprise when Sven yanked him off?

Howard - 6. Sorry to disagree with a lot of you Foxes, but, I cannot really see what he is about? Reminds us a lot of Parkin from Preston (Who we had at the Gate a couple of weeks back and I am sorry to say looked a better player despite being built like an aircraft carrier!!! Rumour has it that Parkin was spotted in the KFC just outside the ground about an hour after the final whistle buying FOUR Bargain Buckets for the long journey back oo'p north) He really did not look that confident with the penalty - which ultimately probably decided the game and we were surprised Gallagher didnt take it and then in the second half he seemed more intent on trying to pick a fight with our central defenders than playing football??? Also when he was subbed he made himself look like a petulant kid the way he threw the captains armband away??? Perhaps he was showing his frustration.

As for the subs, they really were not on the pitch long enough to make any impact although Waghorn (I think) gets a 3 for missing a totally open goal in front of your fans with David James stranded?

Apologise if i have upset anyone and please feel free to respond. On the first half showing you really should have had the game done and dusted as we were awful. Second half we were better but generally if someone had watched the game with no affinity tp either side they would have thought you were the home team and we were the visitors.

Best of luck for the rest of the season, especially when you are playing any of our fellow relegation contenders?

[Guest ttfn]

BCFC fan here in peace. Have been following your excellent forum for some time and thought that you might just appreciate the 'oppositions' view on your boys performance yesterday/

Weale - 6. As previously stated a very good keeper with safe hands who a lot of our lot were very sad leave. First goal he really could not do a lot about it - good thinking from Pitman and then your defenders decided to have a snooze? As for the second he must have been aware what 'skills' that Clarkson has and if he had thrown that ball out to Clarky another 1,000 times it would never end up in the back of the net. Sadly despite not really having very much to do for the rest of the game (and that sums up your dominance, especially in the first half) he will be remembered for "that" goal???

Naughton - 5. Looked a tad light weight and not as good as his mate Walker who QPR presently have on loan from Spurs? As soon as Stead put any pressure on him he was getting rid of the ball anywhere - mostly in to the stand?

Davies - 3. Sorry but have to give such a low score PURELY for his reaction on the final whistle??? As soon as the ref blew (and I am sure he was disappointed like all of you were) he ran straight off the pitch without shaking hands with any of our players or his own team mates??? Must admit I really didnt notice him in the game.

Hobbs - 7. Good player who wins a lot in the air.

King - 7. Seems to create a lot of space and always appears to be ready to take a pass. But I thought he would have got forward more especially in the first half when you were all over us?

Wellens - 6. Have seen him play better. Passing radar appeared to be a little out yesterday and is it us or is it every season that he comes down the waist line has gone up a notch???

Cunningham - 7.5. Dont know where you have got him from - presumably on loan (Our programme is dire and full of crap about a new plastic stadium) but looked confident on the ball and gets forward at every opportunity?

Abe - 8.5. First half he would have got nearer 10 from us??? We really thought that both him AND his twin brother were on the pitch??? He was absolutely everywhere? The Duracell bunny springs to mind. Second half faded a tad after we changed our shape so he didnt have so much room to operate in but overall a class act and the type of player we could certainly do with.

Gallagher 5.5. Typical Paul Gallagher even when he used to play down at Ashton with Plymouth he was the same? Always looks like he has all the skill in the world especially from dead balls but rarely produces.

Vassell - 7. Purely on his first half performance when he was given the freedom of our left side and everything was coming through him? Again after we switched shape he became a lot less effective and there was no surprise when Sven yanked him off?

Howard - 6. Sorry to disagree with a lot of you Foxes, but, I cannot really see what he is about? Reminds us a lot of Parkin from Preston (Who we had at the Gate a couple of weeks back and I am sorry to say looked a better player despite being built like an aircraft carrier!!! Rumour has it that Parkin was spotted in the KFC just outside the ground about an hour after the final whistle buying FOUR Bargain Buckets for the long journey back oo'p north) He really did not look that confident with the penalty - which ultimately probably decided the game and we were surprised Gallagher didnt take it and then in the second half he seemed more intent on trying to pick a fight with our central defenders than playing football??? Also when he was subbed he made himself look like a petulant kid the way he threw the captains armband away??? Perhaps he was showing his frustration.

As for the subs, they really were not on the pitch long enough to make any impact although Waghorn (I think) gets a 3 for missing a totally open goal in front of your fans with David James stranded?

Apologise if i have upset anyone and please feel free to respond. On the first half showing you really should have had the game done and dusted as we were awful. Second half we were better but generally if someone had watched the game with no affinity tp either side they would have thought you were the home team and we were the visitors.

Best of luck for the rest of the season, especially when you are playing any of our fellow relegation contenders?

Always interesting to hear an opposing fan's perspective on our players, thanks.

I'd like to offer an opinion on Bristol City's players, but I was too pre-occupied with my frustration at our inability to score.

I quite like Bristol City, but you're going to have to play significantly better than that this season to avoid going down

[Adster]

Always interesting to hear an opposing fan's perspective on our players, thanks.

I'd like to offer an opinion on Bristol City's players, but I was too pre-occupied with my frustration at our inability to score.

I quite like Bristol City, but you're going to have to play significantly better than that this season to avoid going down

I agree with this, on another day we'd of put 4 past you in the first half alone.

[Jfox]

I didn't think Bristol offered much at all. On occasions Adomah and Rose started to threaten, but I think their best player, and best source of attack was Ribiero (sp?)

[ciderhead]

Cannot disagree with any of your views that certainly earlier in the season you would have returned to the East Midlands with a very comfortable three points.

In a lot of ways it was a very strange game mainly from the perspective that the team with most of the ball ended up point less???

Yes we recognise that we are in for a very long season and that we would settle for fourth from bottom now? A bit like yourselves we had an "Annus horriblus" pre season with the Coppell fiasco (and know we will never know what exactly happened) plus in my opinion our lords and masters totally disregarded what was going on on the pitch and focused all their efforts on a new stadium based on a vain hope that we WILL get the next World Cup...................

[The Doctor]

Weale 5 - Shocking error, prefer Logan.

Naughton 7.5 - Great both going forward and defensively.

Hobbs 8 - Solid, almost back to his best.

Davies 7 - Did okay, maybe should have scored.

Cunningham 6.5 - As someone mentioned, great going forward but got caught out defensively.

Wellens 7 - Played well with some good passes but started to lose it towards the end.

Abe 8 - MOTM for me. Passing was great, tackling was great and got stuck in.

King 7 - Got into some great positions and quick feet for the penalty.

Gallagher 6 - Slow to the ball, second to every 50/50. Thought his corners were good though (even though we didn't score from them)

Vassell 6.5 - Showed good pace and went on one great run but his first touch was poor. Definitely lacking match practice.

Howard 7.5 - Unlucky with the penalty, great captain's performance.

SUBS

Dyer 6.5 - Would have liked to see him get the ball more when he came on.

Waghorn 6 - Didn't do a lot, worked hard as usual though.

Fryatt 6 - Although he didn't get much of the ball I thought he looked lively which makes a change.

- seriously? You prefer logan ahead of weale.

and ciderhead - with the amount of debt your club mentioned a couple of weeks back is it sensible to be " focusing all their efforts on a new stadium" without the world cup having been won yet? There's 8 bloody years to sort it out once the bid has been decided on.

[davieG]

I didn't go but it seems obvious to me

Weale = 0

Everyone else = 9/10.

Sven = 100

Opposition = - 2

[Lillehamring]

Howard - 6. Sorry to disagree with a lot of you Foxes, but, I cannot really see what he is about? Reminds us a lot of Parkin from Preston (Who we had at the Gate a couple of weeks back and I am sorry to say looked a better player despite being built like an aircraft carrier!!! Rumour has it that Parkin was spotted in the KFC just outside the ground about an hour after the final whistle buying FOUR Bargain Buckets for the long journey back oo'p north) He really did not look that confident with the penalty - which ultimately probably decided the game and we were surprised Gallagher didnt take it and then in the second half he seemed more intent on trying to pick a fight with our central defenders than playing football??? Also when he was subbed he made himself look like a petulant kid the way he threw the captains armband away??? Perhaps he was showing his frustration.

i'm glad a neutral has pointed this out, because this is the lasting impression i have of him over the last three seasons, which wouldn't be so bad if he was banging in20 a season or knocking up a dozen assists.

sadly for a lot of city fans, all that is required of him is to win aimless headers, and to show passion (which invariably leads to conceding free kicks.

anyway, this is a matter for a different thread, so please continue with the invaluable ratings.

[Father Ted]

i'm glad a neutral has pointed this out, because this is the lasting impression i have of him over the last three seasons, which wouldn't be so bad if he was banging in20 a season or knocking up a dozen assists.

sadly for a lot of city fans, all that is required of him is to win aimless headers, and to show passion (which invariably leads to conceding free kicks.

anyway, this is a matter for a different thread, so please continue with the invaluable ratings.

This is why I hate English football.

I watched England against France the other night. As soon as England got the ball, it was hoof to Andy Carroll. A 50/50 in the middle and Barry would hoof it as high as he could into the skies. Whereas France were composed on the ball and confident with the ball at their feet. I watched my brother play today and his manager was shouting 'hoof it up the pitch', 'kick it out' and 'throw it down the line!' and this really winds me up! That's why England won't get anywhere unless they realise this and stop the rot. The players are just big brutes who are good at picking fights and kicking the ball the full length of the pitch. There is no composure, no skill, instead of wanting the ball, they are scared of it. That's not football and unfortunately, whilst I like Howard for always giving 100%, he is a very limited striker, okay, he can win headers but he can't hold the ball up, a player who can hold the ball up is a Claridge or a Marshall, a player who can bring the ball down and run the channels with it. O'Neill had it sussed.

[Dan]

Weale - 5

Naughton - 7

Davies - 7

Hobbs - 7

Cunningham - 7

King - 6

Wellens - 6

Abe - 7

Vassell - 5

Gallagher - 6

Howard - 7

Subs: Waghorn - 6, Fryatt - 5, Dyer - 7

[shiv]

- seriously? You prefer logan ahead of weale.

and ciderhead - with the amount of debt your club mentioned a couple of weeks back is it sensible to be " focusing all their efforts on a new stadium" without the world cup having been won yet? There's 8 bloody years to sort it out once the bid has been decided on.

I personally think Weale is an average Championship goalkeeper. Apart from a few very good games last season (which granted he probably did help us get 3 points in), I always get nervous when a cross comes in or he comes out to get the ball. I also think he could have saved a few goals he has conceded this season. Don't get me wrong, his shot stopping is fairly good but I think all round Logan is a better keeper. Okay Logan made one mistake against West Brom but he also made some fantastic saves in that game. I think it's also the fact that I went to the Derby game last season and the Bristol game yesterday where Weale made two howlers and I don't go to many away games

[The Doctor]

I personally think Weale is an average Championship goalkeeper. Apart from a few very good games last season (which granted he probably did help us get 3 points in), I always get nervous when a cross comes in or he comes out to get the ball. I also think he could have saved a few goals he has conceded this season. Don't get me wrong, his shot stopping is fairly good but I think all round Logan is a better keeper. Okay Logan made one mistake against West Brom but he also made some fantastic saves in that game. I think it's also the fact that I went to the Derby game last season and the Bristol game yesterday where Weale made two howlers and I don't go to many away games

and a lot more in previous seasons, plus he's conceded most of the goals we've conceded this season.

Weale is no better than championship, but logan gives me the jitters more than weale does.

[lou]

Weale is an average Champioship keeper at best.... Logan is a poor League 2 keeper

[shiv]

and a lot more in previous seasons, plus he's conceded most of the goals we've conceded this season.

Weale is no better than championship, but logan gives me the jitters more than weale does.

well he's hardly played tbh, but when he has i've been impressed with him. that's just my opinion though

[Corky]

We can do better than Weale but Logan isn't the answer.

Useful for the pre-match penalties with Chrissy P though.

[shiv]

We can do better than Weale but Logan isn't the answer.

Useful for the pre-match penalties with Chrissy P though.

Probably a fair point tbh. I'd rather have Kirkland than both Weale and Logan put together, providing he can stay fit.

[Prospero]

Weale 5: Had little to do in first half, busier in second; his gaffe was unfortunate to say the least.

Naughton 7: I really like him; he played well defending and running forward and from where I was sitting he would have had more impact if we had had strikers who can get on the end of crosses.

Hobbs 7: Another improved performance than hitherto with some strong, although routine, defending.

Davies 6: Not as commanding a performance as previously, with less impact on the match.

Cunningham 6: Strong performance but looked shaky, perhaps over cautious, at times when defending.

Abe 8: Chased every ball and was key to our domination of the game in midfield for a long period.

Wellens 7: Worked and tackled hard, was the only one who reacted to the shot for their first goal and might have actually cleared it; can’t tell from the replay.

King 7: Always shows great tactical awareness but the ball did not fall for him; his injury is worrying.

Gallagher 5: Below average game, more wasted attempts at goal with routine and unproductive corners.

Vassell 5: Given his pedigree still disappointing, is not able to run through players as Dyer can do when he is at his best.

Howard 7: Did everything expected of him, except score the penalty or score from open play as a striker should given the chances we had; won nearly every ball and held the line very well.

Waghorn 4: Could not affect the course of the game when he came on.

Fryatt 3: No impact either.

Dyer 5: Came on too late, despite his efforts to run with the ball.

Referee 7: Did not notice him and the penalty was obvious to everyone, except David James.