Legend_in_blue Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 Why has is taken so long for this to be dragged up? We knew this four or five weeks ago. Old news. No, it's not even that. It isn't news at all.
Corky Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 Another dream crushed. Now we can move on to realistic targets.
Jackirius Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 We must have offered him the same or more wages to come here... Thats a positive, he must be on 100k plus.
Blue Bob Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 i cant believe how many people here think beckham wouldnt have been a good thing!! some of the stuff he would bring would be attendances would go up as people would come solely to see him.. media interest would rise causing the clubs profile to rise with it. shirt sales etc would rise earning more money for the club.. his presence in the dressing room would ADD to the team spirit. and this is all before hes even kicked a ball.. the guy still has the passion for football. can still deliver a dead ball. the killer pass.. etc.. Totally agree, a player like Beckham would raise others players performance and a boost to their confidence. He would be an inspiration to some of the young lads who could learn plenty from him. Sure he is passed his best but he would still do a job. Fair play to Sven for having a try at getting him and even going public that he asked the question (he could have just buried it). it shows the set of the world our ambition, keep asking the big names and eventually one will say yes! And then that will attract another and another. Remember the days of Allen signing 14 muppets at the start of the season - that no one had heard of? At least Beckham would have raised our profile!
Kitchandro Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 i cant believe how many people here think beckham wouldnt have been a good thing!! some of the stuff he would bring would be attendances would go up as people would come solely to see him.. media interest would rise causing the clubs profile to rise with it. shirt sales etc would rise earning more money for the club.. his presence in the dressing room would ADD to the team spirit. and this is all before hes even kicked a ball.. the guy still has the passion for football. can still deliver a dead ball. the killer pass.. etc.. The ones in bold are the only things that are potentially directly beneficial to the team. But I think it's a bit naive. If you were sitting on the bench because everyone was turning up to see this ex-superstar who's essentially just making a cameo, wouldn't it grind your gears a bit? He might be an inspiration to some of the younger lads but others would just get disillusioned with us and what what our signing policy was, as would I, as a fan. The circus around him would be a hinderance and I wouldn't be surprised if it caused some players to get fed up and move on. He was very good once but he's been past it for several years. And as I've said we've got enough loans as it is! How many temporary players do you want playing for us short term? Sorry but there is no way that is good for team spirit. If you ask me it would be more likely to have a negative effect than a positive one. I think people are just being charmed by the idea of world-famous footballer David Beckham playing for us. Personally i don't find it exciting at all, we should forget that and concentrate on building a team. And all this raising our profile stuff is rubbish - if players don't want to play for Leicester or the manager then why do we want them? Our profile is high enough at the moment anyway. We don't want players coming just because we are in the public eye.
B52 Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 Why has is taken so long for this to be dragged up? We knew this four or five weeks ago. Old news. No, it's not even that. It isn't news at all. Because Sven answered a question on the BBC Radio Leicester. He said he asked Beckhams agent if it was any chance at all that Beckham would come and the agent said no. And now a few journos like to have a dig at him.
Guest ttfn Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 If David Beckham had come here he would have been a class apart, end of
dannythefox Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 We do NOT want him here, hes not the answer we need a striker who will score 20 goals.
Salieri Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 Sven should have kept his trap shut, it's all a bit cringeworthy really.
B52 Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 Sven should have kept his trap shut, it's all a bit cringeworthy really. I like it when the managers are polite and answers questions. I don't usually care what sportsjounalists write because they are often too lazy and too bad.....
m00nie Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 The ones in bold are the only things that are potentially directly beneficial to the team. But I think it's a bit naive. If you were sitting on the bench because everyone was turning up to see this ex-superstar who's essentially just making a cameo, wouldn't it grind your gears a bit? He might be an inspiration to some of the younger lads but others would just get disillusioned with us and what what our signing policy was, as would I, as a fan. The circus around him would be a hinderance and I wouldn't be surprised if it caused some players to get fed up and move on. He was very good once but he's been past it for several years. And as I've said we've got enough loans as it is! How many temporary players do you want playing for us short term? Sorry but there is no way that is good for team spirit. If you ask me it would be more likely to have a negative effect than a positive one. I think people are just being charmed by the idea of world-famous footballer David Beckham playing for us. Personally i don't find it exciting at all, we should forget that and concentrate on building a team. And all this raising our profile stuff is rubbish - if players don't want to play for Leicester or the manager then why do we want them? Our profile is high enough at the moment anyway. We don't want players coming just because we are in the public eye. did any of the sven circus affected the team ?? no.. and look at the respect the players have for him also.. because hes high profile and got a good history in football, same would be with beckham.. the guy is football through and through.. hes got the experience and the passion to help the team.. so say if it came out we was getting santa cruz tomorrow on loan you wouldnt want him because we have to many loanees allready? and thats not even taking into account there may be plans in januaray to turn some of them loan starts into permanent players when the actual transfer window opens.. i cant see the thais being in it for the long haul, unless things are going good for them. so if that means we need to raise the profile and get things moving then so be it.. and for me beckham would have ticked all the boxes to help..
RedHux Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 If David Beckham had come here he would have been a class apart, end of He really wouldn't. He looks miles off the pace in the very poor MLS.
Fosse Boy Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 This is terrible news. Until now the new owners have shown a lack of patience with promotion, but this 'Get us a big name' policy shows they are either using the club for increased personal and business status back in Thailand or are incredibly naive and lack understanding of what it takes to get out of this league. Surely we all knew that's the case anyway?
Haydos Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 He's a winger yet he can't even go past a player. Stop being annoyingly thick, it's....annoying. He's not a winger. He's never really been a winger. He's a wide midfielder who specialises in crossing from deep, and he does it fooking well. Anyhoooo, this topic is boring now. Ho ho ho
Kitchandro Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 Stop being annoyingly thick, it's....annoying. He's not a winger. He's never really been a winger. He's a wide midfielder who specialises in crossing from deep, and he does it fooking well. Anyhoooo, this topic is boring now. Ho ho ho He plays on the wing doesn't he? Thicko
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 9 December 2010 Posted 9 December 2010 If David Beckham had come here he would have been a class apart, end of Agreed. And not just what he'd bring to the playing side, imagine what an attractive proposition we'd be as Beckham's employers to anyone. The impact on the profile of the club would be unreal.
Kitchandro Posted 10 December 2010 Posted 10 December 2010 did any of the sven circus affected the team ?? no.. and look at the respect the players have for him also.. because hes high profile and got a good history in football, same would be with beckham.. the guy is football through and through.. hes got the experience and the passion to help the team.. so say if it came out we was getting santa cruz tomorrow on loan you wouldnt want him because we have to many loanees allready? and thats not even taking into account there may be plans in januaray to turn some of them loan starts into permanent players when the actual transfer window opens.. i cant see the thais being in it for the long haul, unless things are going good for them. so if that means we need to raise the profile and get things moving then so be it.. and for me beckham would have ticked all the boxes to help.. Firstly, having a high profile manager is different to having a high profile player. The manager is the boss, and is therefore always somewhat detached from the players. You can get on with your boss, but it's not the same as the relationship with your co-workers/players. If Beckham came I think he would be seen as different from the players. They can pretend he's just another one of the lads all they like but at the end of the day, Beckham is not just another player, he's Beckham. You can't escape that. I should think the players have respect for Sven because he's a good bloke and is managing them properly. Sousa was a famous player, 'high profile' you might say, and has won all sorts (as a player admittedly) but he couldn't gain the respect of the players cos he was shit. It's got nothing to do with how high profile he is. Unless the players are as retarded as some of the English public, who just turn up to watch a successful team with famous players and a 'high profile' manager. I should think they all want success in their careers, not just to play with Beckham and for Sven. Frankly, no, I wouldn't want Santa Cruz on loan. I want long term signings, I want to build a team, build team spirit and I want some kind of rapport with it. You can't do those things with a bunch of temporary players. We have to think about the whole season, not just the next few games. It's no good having a load of loanees in, who may or may not be a success, only for them to go back in January, then throwing our comtracted players into the mix who will be low on confidence and match practise because they've been left out. Yes some of the loans may become permanent, but they aren't at the moment. Sven cannot say for definite that any of them will stay. And whilst Davies, Cunningham, and even Naughton could possibly stay, Beckham wouldn't. We've got a decent squad and I'd rather concentrate on the players that we have permanently, or that at least we have a chance of signing permanently. You don't win anything by pissing about with 'big names' and trying to get them to make cameo appearances for you. You can't do it with a quick fix, you need commitment and hard work from all parties. Beckham is an exciting publicity stunt - that's how the owners see it and that's what's attracting some fans to the idea. I very much doubt that having Beckham for a couple of months will get us promoted.
Haydos Posted 10 December 2010 Posted 10 December 2010 He plays on the wing doesn't he? Not in the sense you mean. It's just like comparing Abe to King. They're both midfielders but obviously they have different roles. Understand? Lennon = Walcott = SWP Ronaldo = Messi = Ronaldinho Beckham = Gary Parker = David Bentley (Apparently a dying breed )
Kitchandro Posted 10 December 2010 Posted 10 December 2010 Not in the sense you mean. It's just like comparing Abe to King. They're both midfielders but obviously they have different roles. Understand? Lennon = Walcott = SWP Ronaldo = Messi = Ronaldinho Beckham = Gary Parker = David Bentley (Apparently a dying breed ) No, Beckham has played on the right hand side of midfield all his career. The right wing. Out wide. Not in the centre. Not like Abe and not like King. What are you saying, that he played the defensive wide midfielder role? There is no attacking and defensive winger (unless it's in a 5-3-2). He is a right midfielder and always has been. You talk to me as if I'm the only one who's criticised him for playing on the right wing for England yet not having the skill to beat a man. I'm not saying that beating a man is the be all and end all, Beckham was brilliant at crossing it and delivering the killer pass. But he lacks a number of things that a player needs to become tagged as World Class.
Haydos Posted 10 December 2010 Posted 10 December 2010 No, Beckham has played on the right hand side of midfield all his career. The right wing. Out wide. Not in the centre. Not like Abe and not like King. What are you saying, that he played the defensive wide midfielder role? No, read what I wrote, i'm not comparing him to Abe or King. I was using an example of what you were doing. Ie. Comparing him to an orthodox winger is like comparing Abe to King...It's pointless, in both cases they're two completely different players. I wasn't arguing about his ability, just the simplistic way people judge at times. There were things like pace and dribbling that weren't part of his game, they didn't need to be when he had other skills that voided the need for these. Ronaldo still can't cross which is pretty integral skill for someone who most people class as a winger. Like beckham, beating players to the byline isn't his game and I appreciate and again, his other skills negate the need for this. Why take a player on when you can do this? I do happen to rate him as one of the worlds best when he was at his peak simply because of the danger he posed. I think the amount of goals he scored and created justifies this. It's only my opinion, I know others prefer a more complete player and tbh I do too, but I still rate him very highly.
OzFox Posted 10 December 2010 Posted 10 December 2010 That's a hell of a pass. Even old Lard Arse managed to get on the end of it. Not convinced any of our forwards would though
ACF Posted 10 December 2010 Posted 10 December 2010 From what I've heard, Becks isn't one to play the high-profile card. LA played a friendly in Newcastle (Australia), and I've heard that he spoke to everyone that wanted to speak to him, went for coffee with some of the Newcastle players, donated his shirt for charity, was a gentleman the whole trip. I believe he is a genuine bloke, prove me wrong is you want.
Zingari Posted 10 December 2010 Posted 10 December 2010 Worst non-story ever. True Almost on a par with El Empty's revelation that he tried and failed to have sex with Maxine Peacock from Coronation Street
Mack Posted 10 December 2010 Posted 10 December 2010 Surely we all knew that's the case anyway? You are right, but I was hoping for a sprinkling of good football sense along the way that might just leave us with a half decent squad when this Thai roller coaster comes back into the station.
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