ivarti Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Back in October when Paulo Sousa was still in charge, I suggested that you must play your best players and not be fooled to believe that you can rotate a squad that has no depth. Sousa failed in his attempt to bring a more positive way of playing. Nigel Pearson had introduced a team that was solid with no nonsence tactics and few changes in the line-up. Players last season adapted well and we ended up in the play-off's. No need to make too many changes. The players I suggested, and that was available, were Jason Roberts (Blackburn), Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace) and Danny Shittu (Bolton). Would have been enough to strengthen the squad in the areas needed, and the price of these three players would have been in the region of £ 1 million. The money would have been available from the Campbell sale. DJ is a good player but never been good at Leicester and he never really clicked with City fans, management and other players. Sven came in and his mind was set on other things that trying to build a stronger team around the players he got, and he has not yet managed to find out who is his best. The way he has managed to stress Chris Weale is a riddle and not good management. Weale was a £ 2 million Tottenham target just a year ago and one of the most solid goalkeepers in the Championship. He is not England quality, but a rock solid goalkeeper who never makes big blunders and one that you should be able to use at this level. He has shown Sven that he can be his 1st choice. Kyle Naughton and Curtis Davies are both quality players, but I must say that seeing Michael Morrison and Jack Hobbs not playing, hurts. The fact that Bruno Berner has been left out and that SVen decided for game to play a defence just with loan players, makes me wonder what his long term thoughts are ? Hobbs, Morrison and Berner all have skills to get us in to the play-off's and should be competetive at this level. To see Morrison linked with Sheffield Wednesday makes me angry. He is quality and a player that soon is ready for his next level, The Premier League. Hobbs is also quality. It was no need for Sven to make them frustrated, they have all three delivered well when called up on. I am pleased to see Wellens and King doing well and being part of Sven's team. They were left out by Sousa from time to time, what makes no sence if they are not injured. Abe is a good battler and a player needed. Nice to see Abe in the team, but he is not better than Wellens and King. Sven made a mistake when he sold Matty Fryatt. He is the only player at the club who can score 20 or more every season. He has shown that he can cope well with Championship level and should not have been sold, A big mistake by Sven. Sven has a big name, but he should have known that money talks in this game. It is also frightening for players to go down to lower levels and gamble with their careers when they still have a future at a higher level. Sven should look for good players in league 1 and The Championship. Vassell looks ok, if he is not overpayed and on a better contract than players like Dyer, Wellens and King. Vassell is a gamble, but he can turn out well for Leicester. Has a habit of getting injured and that is why he must be regarded as one for the squad. At the age of 30 he must deliver at once. and has done so. A solid signing by Sven. Let's hope that Sven can find his way and not use too much time to decide who is his best 11, and not making too many mistakes along the way. We all believe Sven is the right man, but to sell Matty Fryatt, without another proven goalscorer in the squad is strange. All the big names are not coming, with new gambles on foreign imports from all over the planet, makes it a bit unpredictable and the pattern is not yet 100 %. Bamba and the South African forward from Twente, could turn out ok, but they are new and needs time. Let's hope that Sven does the right moves in the near future and manage to understand that stabillity, experience and bonding has a big part to play when it comes to building football teams and that the Championship is a leage that you don't have too much time to fix errors, it can end in relegation for top class managers doing a fantastic job in other clubs, do you remember Ian Holloway ? Sven needs to find out fast were he is and that he is far from the big time he used to be part off. Leicester have in the past not managed to attract the best of the best, and only time will tell if Sven is a man for this club or a man that dreams of a life somewhere else, hopes that he is realistic about his ideas and if he makes the right moves we could soon end this season in the play-off's.
JamesLCFC Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Matty fryatt, might be a mistake from me and you, but other people think he is shit. I think his record was something like a goal every 5 games throughout his career, but then again it just show hes capable when he scored on his debut for hull yesterday. Even though hobbs and morrison have won us 2 games, i still dont think morrison is up too it, i love jack hobbs and i reckon him and bamba who ever could do really well, but not morrison, hes not good enough in the championship no matter what hes done. I Love kyle naughton and on sky sports sven said he wants to permanetly sign him or if worse extend his loan deal, naughton provides pace and overlaps wellens/abe in midfield, i HONESTLY think curtis davies was overrated, he hardly gave us 5 clean sheets or something for someone worth 5 million or something ridicolous, dont get me wrong i like him but hes was very overrated! No idea what ben mee's doing at this club, hes not someone i would want to start or come on, he has no experience apart from manchester city reserves Richie wellens is my favourite player, he is the paul schloes of the championship, the balls he picks out. How many has he set up this season? He has passion for this club, he goes bright red in the face with passion. Play off semi finals 2nd leg he played 10 minutes with cramp, unlike miguel vitor against ipswich who went off and left us down to 10 men! Andy King is one of the best players in championship by far he would defo go in the top 11 dream team! If i had to choose a team id go Weale ( When hes played we have done well) Naughton (Hope Permanent) Bamba (if hes plays good, he sounds good) Hobbs (Dont rule this young lad out!) Berner ( i would say cunnigham cause he has brillaint pace but berner played brilliant) Abe ( Is underated puts in a good shift) Kingy (Need i give a reason) Wellens ( Sets up goals, gives it 110%) Dyer ( Brilliant Pace, changes games, quality player) Vasell ( When hes playedd down the middle hes done something) Gally ( This lad can be shit at times but then he can be brilliant)
sphericalfox Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 So many factual inaccruracies.....head...........going..............to................explode............. eg. He is not England quality, but a rock solid goalkeeper who never makes big blunders and one that you should be able to use at this level. Surely.............a..............wind...........up?
Leicester_Loyal Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 He probably sold Fryatt because he has better targets in mind? Bernard Parker?
hackneyfox Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Morrison soon ready for The Premier? Dyer a quality player? Definitely a wind up.
Mickey O'Neil Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Sven asked Fryatt to fight for his place....he didn't want to and chose the easy option himself. Sven didn't "sell" Fryatt. Interesting read though.
ivarti Posted 4 January 2011 Author Posted 4 January 2011 Morrison soon ready for The Premier? Dyer a quality player? Definitely a wind up. They are all players that was part of a good team that played in the play-off's last season. Dream on, but you surely don't konw anything about football. Look at what other teams have done who has come up and survived. Michael Morrison is good, and defensively he is one of the best. City manage to win games when he is played.
Suffolk_fox Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Fryatt has struggled this season. He did really well in Div 1, but I honestly believe that he is not Premiership class and that he wanted to leave anyway. For these two reasons alone, it was best for Matty to go. He served the club well, but all things must come to an end sooner or later.
ivarti Posted 4 January 2011 Author Posted 4 January 2011 Sven asked Fryatt to fight for his place....he didn't want to and chose the easy option himself. Sven didn't "sell" Fryatt. Interesting read though. Fight for his place, use Bednar instead ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? People at the foxes talk thinks about their players as shit !, Be realistic and start reading a bit about football coaching, management and how to build good football teams.
themotivator Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 i have to say. there are a few key points i don't agree with in this. morrisson - not that good weale was dropped because he made a number of big blunders. fryatt was probably never going to perform at this club after nige went and has done well for himself to get reunited with his former mentor. i think everyone was unsure about selling matty, but here is no point in keeping someone who wants to leave. to say abe is a good battler and a player needed, but that he is not better than wellens (who is your favourite player and a hero) is a bit wierd. its like your having a dig at him by saying he is probably as good as king and wellens. also, to bemoan bitor for going of injured against ispwich and compare that to wellens playing with cramp in the play off semis is bizarre. vitor is stil injured from that game. the weather was horrendous and not the safest place for an injured footballer to play through the pain. wellens is bit of a hardman, but anyone who gets cramp in a game as important as that one would try their hardest to see out the match. and it was only cramp. i think it would be a naive approach to assume that by plugging pearsons squad with a couple of prominent championship players eg, ambrose, roberts and shittu. i honestly believe we performed brilliantly last season (probably better than we should have done with the players we had) and that we could have been promoted, but our squad was no where near good enough for the prem. we need time to build a team with the potential to keep us up. sven has done well to build on pearsons foundations and i hope to god he doesn't continue to take the easy route.
Ross 'LCFC' Turner Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Chris Weale 'never makes big blunders'? might wanna check Derby away last year, Bristol and Watford away this year
sphericalfox Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 They are all players that was part of a good team that played in the play-off's last season. Dream on, but you surely don't konw anything about football. Look at what other teams have done who has come up and survived. Michael Morrison is good, and defensively he is one of the best. City manage to win games when he is played. ivarti, whilst the article's theme and sentimetns are in the right place. You'll be hard pressed to argue that Morrison is Premiership quality. He's had good games but even on last years standards would be left standing in the Premiership by forwards with pace and/or trickery. I won't go through the other inaccurate points, as I'm sure others have/will. All I'll say is you're probably looking at the team with blue-tinted glasses on, which is better than holding a torch for a manager who now resides at the Slumberside.
cc_star Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Wonder if I dare comment on a post mentioning Sven, with Babylon & a couple of his bum-chums waiting in the wings to pounce Sven will get the mix right in the end although I wish he'd experiment more with formation & squad players along the way, however, he's experienced enough to have seen it all before, Faz & Powell are well respected so all should be good on the coaching front but squad players need to have the door to the first team open to them. Getting the signings right is a fine art, and it obviously failed abysmally with Kirkland, and to a lesser extent with Davies who essentially walked out on us after we put him in the shop window and nursed him through 2 injuries. I think Sven could give squad players a fairer crack of the whip, most noticeably Waghorn, but I'm also of the opinion that if a side is winning you shouldn't rock the boat, but I would like to see him being introduced from the bench earlier in games so he can get some of the sharpness back that we all know he's got, but Sven hasn't seen yet. With regard to his recent & future signings only time will tell, but Naughton has been a revelation, Cunningham was also great but I feel Berner compliments the team better... you can't have both full-backs racing on to through balls in the box. Mee is thought highly of by Man City fans but I don't think too many loan signings are the way forward. We're used to it being a rollercoaster at Leicester and the rest of this season is shaping up to the wildest yet
ivarti Posted 4 January 2011 Author Posted 4 January 2011 ivarti, whilst the article's theme and sentimetns are in the right place. You'll be hard pressed to argue that Morrison is Premiership quality. He's had good games but even on last years standards would be left standing in the Premiership by forwards with pace and/or trickery. I won't go through the other inaccurate points, as I'm sure others have/will. All I'll say is you're probably looking at the team with blue-tinted glasses on, which is better than holding a torch for a manager who now resides at the Slumberside. QPR squad, good enough ?, who are their top names, not posh footballing stars. We will get answers against Man City in the FA Cup, judge me then on Morrison, if he is playing. Surely he is good enough, and don't fool my judgement....................
ivarti Posted 4 January 2011 Author Posted 4 January 2011 Wonder if I dare comment on a post mentioning Sven, with Babylon & a couple of his bum-chums waiting in the wings to pounce Sven will get the mix right in the end although I wish he'd experiment more with formation & squad players along the way, however, he's experienced enough to have seen it all before, Faz & Powell are well respected so all should be good on the coaching front but squad players need to have the door to the first team open to them. Getting the signings right is a fine art, and it obviously failed abysmally with Kirkland, and to a lesser extent with Davies who essentially walked out on us after we put him in the shop window and nursed him through 2 injuries. I think Sven could give squad players a fairer crack of the whip, most noticeably Waghorn, but I'm also of the opinion that if a side is winning you shouldn't rock the boat, but I would like to see him being introduced from the bench earlier in games so he can get some of the sharpness back that we all know he's got, but Sven hasn't seen yet. With regard to his recent & future signings only time will tell, but Naughton has been a revelation, Cunningham was also great but I feel Berner compliments the team better... you can't have both full-backs racing on to through balls in the box. Mee is thought highly of by Man City fans but I don't think too many loan signings are the way forward. We're used to it being a rollercoaster at Leicester and the rest of this season is shaping up to the wildest yet
themotivator Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 QPR squad, good enough ?, who are their top names, not posh footballing stars. We will get answers against Man City in the FA Cup, judge me then on Morrison, if he is playing. Surely he is good enough, and don't fool my judgement.................... warnock has built his team around taarabt. he is a star at this level and could probably perform at prem level easily if given the chance.
ivarti Posted 4 January 2011 Author Posted 4 January 2011 Sven is not questioned in this topic. He has done a brilliant job, but to change everything in so short time is difficult. You must not underestimate self confidence among footballers and their belief, and what you should believe in is what you have and not what you can get if the right weather comes along. Chris Weale has not made more mistakes over his time at Leicester than the Brazilian in Tottenham's goal, who rated Gareth Bale this time last season ?
ivarti Posted 4 January 2011 Author Posted 4 January 2011 warnock has built his team around taarabt. he is a star at this level and could probably perform at prem level easily if given the chance. Who made Taarabt a star, Warnock !!!!!!!!!!!!!!,
cc_star Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 QPR squad, good enough ?, who are their top names, not posh footballing stars. We will get answers against Man City in the FA Cup, judge me then on Morrison, if he is playing. Surely he is good enough, and don't fool my judgement.................... QPR have a team which they've built, teamwork effort enthusiasm & willingness to do well for each other & their manager counts for more than a few celebrity footballers
sphericalfox Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Sven is not questioned in this topic. He has done a brilliant job, but to change everything in so short time is difficult. You must not underestimate self confidence among footballers and their belief, and what you should believe in is what you have and not what you can get if the right weather comes along. Chris Weale has not made more mistakes over his time at Leicester than the Brazilian in Tottenham's goal, who rated Gareth Bale this time last season ? Right.....ivarti, I was going to be kind and not pull your article apart piece by inaccurate piece. Some of your comments are coming across very naively. I've rated Bale when he was at Southampton. And you are comparing Weale to Gomes? A GK who has played PSV and been capped for his country, and somehow suggesting they may be alike because of blunders they have made? This seems to be a backtrack on Weale - the GK who could do no wrong. Look I am not seeking to pick this one apart. Like I said I think your heart is in the right place, just not the facts. Becoming more defensive does not make your opinion more correct or change your statements into truths.
themotivator Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Who made Taarabt a star, Warnock !!!!!!!!!!!!!!, jesus. taarabt was hailed as being the next big thing at spurs and dropped down to qpr because ramos didn't play him. he already had a massive reputation before joining qpr and warnock didn't make that. he has done well to get the most out of him and the team he has, but look at the financial weight that club has. they have easily enough resources to see them into the prem, but if the keep losing form towards the end of the season like they did last year and have started to this year (could just be a wobble, it remains to be seen) they will have to sort their squad out. just like us.
ivarti Posted 4 January 2011 Author Posted 4 January 2011 Right.....ivarti, I was going to be kind and not pull your article apart piece by inaccurate piece. Some of your comments are coming across very naively. I've rated Bale when he was at Southampton. And you are comparing Weale to Gomes? A GK who has played PSV and been capped for his country, and somehow suggesting they may be alike because of blunders they have made? This seems to be a backtrack on Weale - the GK who could do no wrong. Look I am not seeking to pick this one apart. Like I said I think your heart is in the right place, just not the facts. Becoming more defensive does not make your opinion more correct or change your statements into truths. I will not go into a long argument with you. but just say that Weale is good, Berner is good, Morrison has great potential and Hobbs is one of the best young talented defenders in English football. Matty Fryatt has the abillity to score goals at all levels and will hopefully get his Premier League chances. DJ Campbell scores goals for Blackpool in the Premier League, why couldn't Fryatt. Another point is that if you tell with body language or by your decissions that you have a squad to build on, you might be getting better results than show that you don't trust the once you have. This is the class act of a manager. I have followed Sven's career over the years and he has been brilliant with a certain type of players, hopefully he will get the types around him that he needs, but under his transformation he needs the help of players he might not want to have around and that is another very difficult job to do, working with people you don't believe in.
ivarti Posted 4 January 2011 Author Posted 4 January 2011 jesus. taarabt was hailed as being the next big thing at spurs and dropped down to qpr because ramos didn't play him. he already had a massive reputation before joining qpr and warnock didn't make that. he has done well to get the most out of him and the team he has, but look at the financial weight that club has. they have easily enough resources to see them into the prem, but if the keep losing form towards the end of the season like they did last year and have started to this year (could just be a wobble, it remains to be seen) they will have to sort their squad out. just like us. Taarabt never got a chance at Spurs, so the guy making him a star is the one playing him and that is what Warnock has done. Transforming squads will not be possible at QPR even with financial muscles, because the players available in the January window who can make their slide stop, if they get a slide, are not available. You will only get reserve team players and they will not stop a slide. Build slowly, sign one or two players and make the right moves in bringing a solid group together that is what gets you up long term. Watch Owen Coyle's work at Bolton and you will get the right answers. Surely Sven will do the same and that is what I hope for, and I am also glad that I believe in what we got, since they are not that bad. Support is always needed and those who are our players right now needs it more than those who have not yet arrived, they will never win us any games or bring on board points
Babylon Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Michael Morrison is good, and defensively he is one of the best. City manage to win games when he is played. I'm not going to go too much into it.Just as a reminder though watch these... Oh Dear.... Oh dear oh dear... We have won games without him/them in the team and we have lost games with them in the team. Please, on the back of two games can we not make out that they are faultless players who should have played every game. Hobbs has been terribly off form and Morrison has always had question mark over him. It was the right decision to leave them out when they have been, even if to actually save their confidence a bit and then bring them back into the team when we are doing better. They are both young and weren't use to being on the end of heavy losses here. I'm not pro or anti any of these players but people opinions swing wildly on the back of a couple of performances. I'd like to know your opinions of Morrison after nine games of the season?
cc_star Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 I will not go into a long argument with you. but just say that Weale is good, Berner is good, Morrison has great potential and Hobbs is one of the best young talented defenders in English football. Matty Fryatt has the abillity to score goals at all levels and will hopefully get his Premier League chances. DJ Campbell scores goals for Blackpool in the Premier League, why couldn't Fryatt. Another point is that if you tell with body language or by your decissions that you have a squad to build on, you might be getting better results than show that you don't trust the once you have. This is the class act of a manager. I have followed Sven's career over the years and he has been brilliant with a certain type of players, hopefully he will get the types around him that he needs, but under his transformation he needs the help of players he might not want to have around and that is another very difficult job to do, working with people you don't believe in. You will see it some people's way or forever more have it rammed down your throat! Fryatt scored 1 in 3 for us and makes numerous off the ball runs which pulls defences out of shape (Waghorn is the same in this regard) and is a quality player - he's no world beater but there is no reason to suggest he won't go on to continue to score 1 in 3 or even improve. DJ Campbell is a goal scorer and it just never worked out for him here, I was glad he went because of it wasn't working out, not because of any malice towards him. The excellent point you raise is that Sven will need the help of players he might not rate too highly, this is where I feel the scatter-gun approach of loan signings falls down, I think you should work with your squad unless they are proven to the beyond working with (Lamey & Neilson spring to mind) and the loan signing of Naughton obviously remedied this. Sven always picked his 'mates' for England and its that's great when a manager can pick people he feels he can rely on, but when a dip in form happens or results aren't going well he seems to have stood by his loan signings (like he persisted with his 'mates' at England) at the expense of squad players, obviously we've come out of the dip in form all right, so its not the end of the world, but I would like to see him working with what we've got unless you're signing someone obviously of a better class (a la Naughton over Lamey & Neilson) Working with the squad also has positive side-effects of enthusiasm rather than resentment building so that when people are inevitably recalled they want to play for you and try their hearts out for the club - even if they are more limited in ability than rent-a-celeb
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