Ashamed to be a Leicester fan tonight

[MC Prussian]

Condescending is my middle name you little man.

I think this is what they call masochism. I somewhat enjoy being belittled by Babylon.

[Babylon]

Hmmmm the same age as a certain other member who held exactly the same views as you, and posted in a very similar style to you. Funnily enough you joined at exactly the same time their posts were put on preview... Coincidence? I think not.

Adding to that an almost identical writing style, with a penchant for adding "...." after almost every sentence.

[Hullfox]

It doesn't change on here does it?

The sentiments of the first post are well thought out and eloquently put across which in itself is a rarity.

I'm in the fortunate position to be able to follow the club home and away but now choose not to because of the idiots that seem to base a player or manager's ability on their own experience of Champ Manager and spout shit about how bad the club is in all it does. From the outside, it seems to me as though Sven has done a reasonable job. If any fan had been given the option of having our present league position on the day that Sousa departed, there can't be one of you that wouldn't have grasped it with both hands. The distinct possibility of another term in League One has been replaced with some of you thinking we have a divine right to the play offs.

Every club has it's idiots following them. Leicester just seems to have more than it's reasonable allocation.

[Babylon]

I think this is what they call masochism. I somewhat enjoy being belittled by Babylon.

I like to keep people down. Let people think they are right too much and they get above their station.

[Guest Col city fan]

So you do remember the periods during which Leicester where a yo-yo club and switching between Division One and Two on a more or less regular basis. So you should have a more relaxed and relative view of things, as I'd assume in this case.

Why don't you rate Sven when he's only been in charge for half a year and then compare him to managers who have been in their position for quite a while and been able to build onto it?

And I'm 30.

of course I remember the yo-yo years - and very frustrating they were - however, they were great fun too of course, trying to fight off relegation and then trying to win promotion the next season - the atmosphere at Filbert Street puts the Walkers to shame to be fair...and there wasn't any nonsense back then like the 'Fosse boys' singing away in a little corner of the ground...

Anyway, I digress.... my reticence to embrace Sven with open arms is simply because I am more a fan of the younger, more eager, more to prove type of manager - City's best years have usually been when we have had certain up and coming managers in post. In fact I forgot one - Brian Little was a good example of a young, inexperienced manager who bought success to the club.

Sven's best years have gone, in my opinion - loaning out Morrison and Hobbs to bring in Yakubu is something that I dont' agree in - I'm far happier with the Pearson approach of bringing through players like Morrison and Hobbs and King. I applaud Grayson for doing exactly this with Howson and, dare I say it, Max

I'm simply not surprised that we probably won't make the play-offs this year. A few weeks ago, having returned from Bramall Lane and seeing us very fortunate to beat a poor Sheff Utd side, I turned to my son and said, this side is not that good is it.... he simply nodded and said nothing.

I hope I'm wrong of course... I'd love to see my team back in the big time... I just don't think we are as good as many on here have been making out.. the past couple or three weeks have been full of nonsense comments like 'we are gonna get the second automatic spot' etc..

The site is about opinions... I'm not a WUM, am not slagging-off Sven, I simply don't think he's gonna be the messiah - nothing more, nothing less than that

[Babylon]

the past couple or three weeks have been full of nonsense comments like 'we are gonna get the second automatic spot' etc..

No we had a handful of people, like we have a handful of people that detest everything Sven does.

Most people were just chuffed we'd managed to get ourselves into the position to even consider us contenders for the playoffs. Of course people started to dream it was possible, but there really wasn't many who thought it was nailed on.

[MC Prussian]

of course I remember the yo-yo years - and very frustrating they were - however, they were great fun too of course, trying to fight off relegation and then trying to win promotion the next season - the atmosphere at Filbert Street puts the Walkers to shame to be fair...and there wasn't any nonsense back then like the 'Fosse boys' singing away in a little corner of the ground...

Anyway, I digress.... my reticence to embrace Sven with open arms is simply because I am more a fan of the younger, more eager, more to prove type of manager - City's best years have usually been when we have had certain up and coming managers in post. In fact I forgot one - Brian Little was a good example of a young, inexperienced manager who bought success to the club.

Sven's best years have gone, in my opinion - loaning out Morrison and Hobbs to bring in Yakubu is something that I dont' agree in - I'm far happier with the Pearson approach of bringing through players like Morrison and Hobbs and King. I applaud Grayson for doing exactly this with Howson and, dare I say it, Max

I'm simply not surprised that we probably won't make the play-offs this year. A few weeks ago, having returned from Bramall Lane and seeing us very fortunate to beat a poor Sheff Utd side, I turned to my son and said, this side is not that good is it.... he simply nodded and said nothing.

I hope I'm wrong of course... I'd love to see my team back in the big time... I just don't think we are as good as many on here have been making out.. the past couple or three weeks have been full of nonsense comments like 'we are gonna get the second automatic spot' etc..

The site is about opinions... I'm not a WUM, am not slagging-off Sven, I simply don't think he's gonna be the messiah - nothing more, nothing less than that

Filbert Street is gone. The Walkers has been around for 7, 8 years now and moaning about the "good, old days" doesn't help, does it? All Leicester fans are in the same boat.

Aren't you better off making a difference as a fan now? Or do you rue the days just for the sake of it? Do you like living in the past? Isn't this about the present and the future of this club?

Sven may be the oldest manager this club has ever seen (that'd be one for foxblogger), but I wouldn't doubt his commitment yet. And I can't recall posters on here calling him the "Messiah". We've also had "young" managers that failed in the past. Remember Paulo Sousa? Holloway?

Sheffield Wednesday fans are not too happy about Morrison. He had a great start for the Owls, but has faded ever since. Hobbs and Hull? Needs more games to be properly assessed. As of now, he hasn't really shattered the earth up there, has he? And why slating Yakubu when he's scored goals for us - something he's being paid for? I've also mentioned numerous times how impressed I am with his vision and efforts to distribute the ball amongst his teammates when attacking. By the way, King was here before Pearson arrived.

As for the Sheffield United game, fortunate we may have been that evening. But we won. Grinding out three points with a poor performance is what made us famous under Pearson, wasn't it? Would you have rather lost?

And as far as I know, the main source of the "automatic promotion" comment was a biased commentator on BBC Radio Leicester by the name of Ian Stringer. You tell him on Monday what you think of him - or send him an E-Mail at [email protected].

[21st Century Fox]

of course I remember the yo-yo years - and very frustrating they were - however, they were great fun too of course, trying to fight off relegation and then trying to win promotion the next season - the atmosphere at Filbert Street puts the Walkers to shame to be fair...and there wasn't any nonsense back then like the 'Fosse boys' singing away in a little corner of the ground...

Anyway, I digress.... my reticence to embrace Sven with open arms is simply because I am more a fan of the younger, more eager, more to prove type of manager - City's best years have usually been when we have had certain up and coming managers in post. In fact I forgot one - Brian Little was a good example of a young, inexperienced manager who bought success to the club.

Sven's best years have gone, in my opinion - loaning out Morrison and Hobbs to bring in Yakubu is something that I dont' agree in - I'm far happier with the Pearson approach of bringing through players like Morrison and Hobbs and King. I applaud Grayson for doing exactly this with Howson and, dare I say it, Max

I'm simply not surprised that we probably won't make the play-offs this year. A few weeks ago, having returned from Bramall Lane and seeing us very fortunate to beat a poor Sheff Utd side, I turned to my son and said, this side is not that good is it.... he simply nodded and said nothing.

I hope I'm wrong of course... I'd love to see my team back in the big time... I just don't think we are as good as many on here have been making out.. the past couple or three weeks have been full of nonsense comments like 'we are gonna get the second automatic spot' etc..

The site is about opinions... I'm not a WUM, am not slagging-off Sven, I simply don't think he's gonna be the messiah - nothing more, nothing less than that

I agree its all about opinion but the way your previous posts were worded, you were passing off opinion as fact. I think too many people have tarred Sven with the circus that followed him as England manager. I genuinely believe he's come here to actually get his head down and become a 'manager' again. Don't forget he's never managed in this league before, he's probably inherited a squad of players that he'd never even heard of before and he hasn't even had a full season. He's no messiah but he's rescued our season from the start we've had. I don't understand how you can write him off with little evidence.

[Guest Col city fan]

Filbert Street is gone. The Walkers has been around for 7, 8 years now and moaning about the "good, old days" doesn't help, does it? All Leicester fans are in the same boat.

Aren't you better off making a difference as a fan now? Or do you rue the days just for the sake of it? Do you like living in the past? Isn't this about the present and the future of this club?

Sven may be the oldest manager this club has ever seen (that'd be one for foxblogger), but I wouldn't doubt his commitment yet. And I can't recall posters on here calling him the "Messiah". We've also had "young" managers that failed in the past. Remember Paulo Sousa? Holloway?

Sheffield Wednesday fans are not too happy about Morrison. He had a great start for the Owls, but has faded ever since. Hobbs and Hull? Needs more games to be properly assessed. As of now, he hasn't really shattered the earth up there, has he? And why slating Yakubu when he's scored goals for us - something he's being paid for? I've also mentioned numerous times how impressed I am with his vision and efforts to distribute the ball amongst his teammates when attacking. By the way, King was here before Pearson arrived.

As for the Sheffield United game, fortunate we may have been that evening. But we won. Grinding out three points with a poor performance is what made us famous under Pearson, wasn't it? Would you have rather lost?

And as far as I know, the main source of the "automatic promotion" comment was a biased commentator on BBC Radio Leicester by the name of Ian Stringer. You tell him on Monday what you think of him - or send him an E-Mail at [email protected].

I can't recollect myself 'slating' anyone.... making the point that I'd rather see a manager bringing through youthful players than big-paid, not-in-favour players of their parent clubs on loan is not slating, is it?

As for reminiscing... sorry mate but thats an age thing...when you get to my age you'll probably find yourself doing it... yes I loved eighties football and don't apologise for saying so...

Anyway, good points made....as for making a difference now..well I've been to nearly every match this season, home and away.. so I guess that helps the cause, never boo and sing and shout as much as anyone - just don't rate Sven, sorry, will have to agree to disagree on this one

[Bugg]

I can't recollect myself 'slating' anyone.... making the point that I'd rather see a manager bringing through youthful players than big-paid, not-in-favour players of their parent clubs on loan is not slating, is it?

As for reminiscing... sorry mate but thats an age thing...when you get to my age you'll probably find yourself doing it... yes I loved eighties football and don't apologise for saying so...

Anyway, good points made....as for making a difference now..well I've been to nearly every match this season, home and away.. so I guess that helps the cause, never boo and sing and shout as much as anyone - just don't rate Sven, sorry, will have to agree to disagree on this one

hmmm.....

Agree with you 100% mate... what is the point of this site if you can't express your opinion? Simple fact is that Oakley has not been good enough for some time. The problem is you WILL get shouted down by the Sven lovers on here who consistently claim that any counter opinions are 'negative' or 'unhelpful' (you will see its the same old noises made by the same old people who seem to colonise Foxes talk). Well done for making your point... Oakley serves no purpose anymore and needs to be replaced by someone of more quality if we are to succeed next season..

[Durnerz]

With money comes expectation and given the group of moronic supporters we've had over the years i've been following the side, through thick and a heck of a lot of thin adding an extra few quid onto the prices of the matchday experience is going to lessen the tolerance of those who have been on the fringes of this mindset. I have a confession that i've been going off to support my local side Burton Albion (as I live close to Ashby) to view how life is in the lower divisions with fresh talent, supporter treatment and general opinions and in honesty I've become hooked. Leicester arn't a club I recognise much now, not just because of investment but because of the values this club has being whitewashed by off-pitch influences.

The prices for example, the hike between an Adult ticket (excluding the ridiculous 'just the ticket' offers) and an under 22 ticket is quite simply ridiculous and making us more expensive to watch than Wigan in the league above (on adult price) and given our reputation as being a community club these jokers don't seem to give a damn about price and loyalty. Also with virtually every game, even against the league minnows being graded a 'gold' fixture or god help us if a platinum is announced and the prices top £30. So to me it is little wonder the support are so quick to slag and to vote with their feet on certain players because if I was parting with that much cash each week i'd feel like i'd just been visited by Dick Turpin himself.

There will come a day when I will return to the Walkers Stadium through the love I still have for this club but for now i'm enjoying the hassle-free goals and all round entertainment that League two provides and it seems its not just people like me who are heading there...

[Guest Col city fan]

With money comes expectation and given the group of moronic supporters we've had over the years i've been following the side, through thick and a heck of a lot of thin adding an extra few quid onto the prices of the matchday experience is going to lessen the tolerance of those who have been on the fringes of this mindset. I have a confession that i've been going off to support my local side Burton Albion (as I live close to Ashby) to view how life is in the lower divisions with fresh talent, supporter treatment and general opinions and in honesty I've become hooked. Leicester arn't a club I recognise much now, not just because of investment but because of the values this club has being whitewashed by off-pitch influences.

The prices for example, the hike between an Adult ticket (excluding the ridiculous 'just the ticket' offers) and an under 22 ticket is quite simply ridiculous and making us more expensive to watch than Wigan in the league above (on adult price) and given our reputation as being a community club these jokers don't seem to give a damn about price and loyalty. Also with virtually every game, even against the league minnows being graded a 'gold' fixture or god help us if a platinum is announced and the prices top £30. So to me it is little wonder the support are so quick to slag and to vote with their feet on certain players because if I was parting with that much cash each week i'd feel like i'd just been visited by Dick Turpin himself.

There will come a day when I will return to the Walkers Stadium through the love I still have for this club but for now i'm enjoying the hassle-free goals and all round entertainment that League two provides and it seems its not just people like me who are heading there...

I think I can see where you are coming from and living in Ashby, Burton Albion is an obvious choice

HOWEVER, just couldnt do it mate... City is in mi blood... when I was at Uni i used to come home every other weekend to watch us at Filbert Street (370 mile round trip) and that was when I didnt have a pot to piss in.

The thought of not going down Saturday afternoons then meeting mi mates after.... dont bear finking about...

[Durnerz]

I think I can see where you are coming from and living in Ashby, Burton Albion is an obvious choice

HOWEVER, just couldnt do it mate... City is in mi blood... when I was at Uni i used to come home every other weekend to watch us at Filbert Street (370 mile round trip) and that was when I didnt have a pot to piss in.

The thought of not going down Saturday afternoons then meeting mi mates after.... dont bear finking about...

Thats an opinion i've heard many times and I support your thinking, absolutely. I guess given that i've travelled a lot around europe watching other clubs its become second nature in a way. I was able to watch Inter Milan with my girlfriend for about half the price of two tickets at City.

I too have made the long round trips and been up and down the country with Leicester and I have some great friends as a result theres just come a point where I can get a load of new stadiums under my belt, give money to a local side for a decent return and make the most of being a football fan first and foremost, not a full on scarf-wearing Burton supporter.

[Guest Col city fan]

Thats an opinion i've heard many times and I support your thinking, absolutely. I guess given that i've travelled a lot around europe watching other clubs its become second nature in a way. I was able to watch Inter Milan with my girlfriend for about half the price of two tickets at City.

I too have made the long round trips and been up and down the country with Leicester and I have some great friends as a result theres just come a point where I can get a load of new stadiums under my belt, give money to a local side for a decent return and make the most of being a football fan first and foremost, not a full on scarf-wearing Burton supporter.

fair play to ya mate... its refreshing to have a decent, non-abusive conversation with a similar thinker....

[Guest bennytwohats]

It's hard to imagine what Sven would have had to have done to convince some people really, especially people that go to all the games and so have witnessed just how much we have improved this season under him.

You'd have a hell of a hard time arguing that the performances haven't improved. Under Sven we've played some of the best football i've ever seen us play. We've shot from bottom of the table to 10th, and despite a poor run we are mathematically still within reach of a playoff spot. He is getting the best out of players like Gally and Wellens and has made a few incredible signings - Bamba, Naughton, Mee are pretty much indisputable. Personally i think Yak has been great too, and Vassell has had a pretty positive overall contribution despite being pretty poor lately. All of this he has thrown together in the middle of a season - it's not at all comparable to Leeds or Norwich.

On the other hand suggesting Sven was the messiah or that we would go unbeaten in 2011 and such is equally silly. I don't believe that any manager could live up to such expectations, but when you're doing well some people will always get carried away - to be honest i think it's testament to the job Sven has done that people did get carried away to such a degree.

So really, what would he have had to have done to convince some people that he's not a poor manager? Looking solely at this run of four games is myopic at best, of course it was disappointing and I think most of us would agree we should have done better. But everyone has their off days, even Barcelona. Like many i consider us fortunate to be in the position we're in now, given where we were when Sven joined. Despite feeling pretty disappointed about the last four games, overall i'm pretty excited to see what Sven can do given a whole season with a whole summer to prepare for it.

If next season turns out to be a flop then by all means write him off at that point, but not now when for the most part he has completely exceeded expectations.

[blueredswed]

After reading a lot of this up and downs I think I gonna have a varm and good bath <_<

But before that I would like to say following:

Come on and stand behind the TEAM it dosn´t matter who will play it is all up to us to get back our eleven boys ot there!

SOOOOO stop this shit here AND come on

Appologise to you real fans not YOUR NEGATIVE