Burleyfox Posted 6 June 2005 Posted 6 June 2005 Lasr season we scored the mighty total of 49 league goals!! If we want to think POSITIVELY about 2005/6 (and I do ), then we must take on board that the teams automatically promoted the past season scored 76 and 79 goals respectively. Being optimistic (and assuming general good team performance) then I can see Conolly getting say 15. That means MDV or "Anr" getting mid twenties upwards (hard to visualise) even with my blue-est tinted glasses on. So where are the goals coming from - and more to the point who's "Anr!!" Tell me I'm being over pessimistic please. B)
Simon Posted 6 June 2005 Posted 6 June 2005 Lasr season we scored the mighty total of 49 league goals!!If we want to think POSITIVELY about 2005/6 (and I do ), then we must take on board that the teams automatically promoted the past season scored 76 and 79 goals respectively. Being optimistic (and assuming general good team performance) then I can see Conolly getting say 15. That means MDV or "Anr" getting mid twenties upwards (hard to visualise) even with my blue-est tinted glasses on. So where are the goals coming from - and more to the point who's "Anr!!" Tell me I'm being over pessimistic please. B) 119933[/snapback] You're being over pessimistic
Mark Posted 6 June 2005 Posted 6 June 2005 We desperately need two new strikers, it's quite worrying actually. Ever since the Sturm deal fell through nothing is yet to develop in the striker role, which leaves us with 3 strikers if or when Wright leaves, and that is including Morris.. As I said in another thread a while ago, we've got to concentrate on creativity and goalscoring, even last season we had one of the best defensive records in the league despite our position. The other areas of the field are more important now, in my opinion. I couldn't care less how many goals we concede, as long as we finish in the top 10 at least. I've had no value for the money i've paid the last 2 seasons, now i want to see some goals and attacking play. Lets have some 6-5 wins or 3-3 draws, whatever, that shows we're making progress and the entertainment is value for money. Dull 0-0, 1-1 draws don't do it for me. Adam Boyd and Richie Partridge will do nicely, Craig
Anish Posted 6 June 2005 Posted 6 June 2005 I think we need at least 1 more striker to push Connolly and De Vries and have a little bit of competition for places. Having said that, I don't want a striker (just for the sake of another striker) who isn't going to cut it, like Moore and Tommy Wright. We need somebody else who can make a difference when they come on/start, somebody who offers something different and has a bit of confidence. It's going to be a tough decision bringing in a new striker, I hope we get the right man.
Ric Flair Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 We desperately need two new strikers, it's quite worrying actually. Ever since the Sturm deal fell through nothing is yet to develop in the striker role, which leaves us with 3 strikers if or when Wright leaves, and that is including Morris.. As I said in another thread a while ago, we've got to concentrate on creativity and goalscoring, even last season we had one of the best defensive records in the league despite our position. The other areas of the field are more important now, in my opinion. I couldn't care less how many goals we concede, as long as we finish in the top 10 at least. I've had no value for the money i've paid the last 2 seasons, now i want to see some goals and attacking play. Lets have some 6-5 wins or 3-3 draws, whatever, that shows we're making progress and the entertainment is value for money. Dull 0-0, 1-1 draws don't do it for me. Adam Boyd and Richie Partridge will do nicely, Craig 119939[/snapback] We've got the wrong manager if you want attacking play. Hearts fans will tell you that he concentrates on having a defensively tight unit and works from there. Don't get me wrong i'm sure he'll want some creativity in the side, but his main concern is making sure at worst we draw 0-0 and get a point. He's often gone on record saying that, the good thing is we do have some talented players in Hughes and Connolly who will make things happen for us. We do need a new striker, perhaps 2 but remember it is only just turned June and Craig has gone on record saying he wants 2 new strikers after the Sturm deal fell through. He won't disappoint, i'm sure. Who these two strikers will be, i'm not sure. I hope one is proven in this league and the other is young, with bags of potential ala Kazim-Richards. I have a feeling that we'll sign a centre half next, then another, then two strikers. I just hope Craig's left some cash in the pot for a quality striker.
Steven Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 We desperately need two new strikers, it's quite worrying actually. Ever since the Sturm deal fell through nothing is yet to develop in the striker role, which leaves us with 3 strikers if or when Wright leaves, and that is including Morris.. As I said in another thread a while ago, we've got to concentrate on creativity and goalscoring, even last season we had one of the best defensive records in the league despite our position. The other areas of the field are more important now, in my opinion. I couldn't care less how many goals we concede, as long as we finish in the top 10 at least. I've had no value for the money i've paid the last 2 seasons, now i want to see some goals and attacking play. Lets have some 6-5 wins or 3-3 draws, whatever, that shows we're making progress and the entertainment is value for money. Dull 0-0, 1-1 draws don't do it for me. Adam Boyd and Richie Partridge will do nicely, Craig 119939[/snapback] We've got the wrong manager if you want attacking play. Hearts fans will tell you that he concentrates on having a defensively tight unit and works from there. Don't get me wrong i'm sure he'll want some creativity in the side, but his main concern is making sure at worst we draw 0-0 and get a point. He's often gone on record saying that, the good thing is we do have some talented players in Hughes and Connolly who will make things happen for us. We do need a new striker, perhaps 2 but remember it is only just turned June and Craig has gone on record saying he wants 2 new strikers after the Sturm deal fell through. He won't disappoint, i'm sure. Who these two strikers will be, i'm not sure. I hope one is proven in this league and the other is young, with bags of potential ala Kazim-Richards. I have a feeling that we'll sign a centre half next, then another, then two strikers. I just hope Craig's left some cash in the pot for a quality striker. 120121[/snapback] I also get the feeling from CL that he would rather win 5 games and lose 5 games rather than draw ten games.
Ric Flair Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 We desperately need two new strikers, it's quite worrying actually. Ever since the Sturm deal fell through nothing is yet to develop in the striker role, which leaves us with 3 strikers if or when Wright leaves, and that is including Morris.. As I said in another thread a while ago, we've got to concentrate on creativity and goalscoring, even last season we had one of the best defensive records in the league despite our position. The other areas of the field are more important now, in my opinion. I couldn't care less how many goals we concede, as long as we finish in the top 10 at least. I've had no value for the money i've paid the last 2 seasons, now i want to see some goals and attacking play. Lets have some 6-5 wins or 3-3 draws, whatever, that shows we're making progress and the entertainment is value for money. Dull 0-0, 1-1 draws don't do it for me. Adam Boyd and Richie Partridge will do nicely, Craig 119939[/snapback] We've got the wrong manager if you want attacking play. Hearts fans will tell you that he concentrates on having a defensively tight unit and works from there. Don't get me wrong i'm sure he'll want some creativity in the side, but his main concern is making sure at worst we draw 0-0 and get a point. He's often gone on record saying that, the good thing is we do have some talented players in Hughes and Connolly who will make things happen for us. We do need a new striker, perhaps 2 but remember it is only just turned June and Craig has gone on record saying he wants 2 new strikers after the Sturm deal fell through. He won't disappoint, i'm sure. Who these two strikers will be, i'm not sure. I hope one is proven in this league and the other is young, with bags of potential ala Kazim-Richards. I have a feeling that we'll sign a centre half next, then another, then two strikers. I just hope Craig's left some cash in the pot for a quality striker. 120121[/snapback] I also get the feeling from CL that he would rather win 5 games and lose 5 games rather than draw ten games. 120123[/snapback] So would I! As that's 5 more points. Speak to any Hearts fan and they'll tell you that Levein is quite partial to a 0-0 draw though, he loves clean sheets.
Babylon Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 We desperately need two new strikers, it's quite worrying actually. Ever since the Sturm deal fell through nothing is yet to develop in the striker role, which leaves us with 3 strikers if or when Wright leaves, and that is including Morris.. As I said in another thread a while ago, we've got to concentrate on creativity and goalscoring, even last season we had one of the best defensive records in the league despite our position. The other areas of the field are more important now, in my opinion. I couldn't care less how many goals we concede, as long as we finish in the top 10 at least. I've had no value for the money i've paid the last 2 seasons, now i want to see some goals and attacking play. Lets have some 6-5 wins or 3-3 draws, whatever, that shows we're making progress and the entertainment is value for money. Dull 0-0, 1-1 draws don't do it for me. Adam Boyd and Richie Partridge will do nicely, Craig 119939[/snapback] We've got the wrong manager if you want attacking play. Hearts fans will tell you that he concentrates on having a defensively tight unit and works from there. Don't get me wrong i'm sure he'll want some creativity in the side, but his main concern is making sure at worst we draw 0-0 and get a point. He's often gone on record saying that, the good thing is we do have some talented players in Hughes and Connolly who will make things happen for us. We do need a new striker, perhaps 2 but remember it is only just turned June and Craig has gone on record saying he wants 2 new strikers after the Sturm deal fell through. He won't disappoint, i'm sure. Who these two strikers will be, i'm not sure. I hope one is proven in this league and the other is young, with bags of potential ala Kazim-Richards. I have a feeling that we'll sign a centre half next, then another, then two strikers. I just hope Craig's left some cash in the pot for a quality striker. 120121[/snapback] I also get the feeling from CL that he would rather win 5 games and lose 5 games rather than draw ten games. 120123[/snapback] So would I! As that's 5 more points. Speak to any Hearts fan and they'll tell you that Levein is quite partial to a 0-0 draw though, he loves clean sheets. 120127[/snapback] They also said he played long ball, which we haven't seen so far.
supedaj Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 Hughes amd Williams will have to weigh in with some goals - I would say at least 17 (between them) MDV and Connolly should be getting that each aswell for us to have any chance One of our centre backs (maybe McCarthy) should try and become a centre half in the taggart mould (It would be too much of an ask to be like Elliott!)
Leicester_Mad Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 3 strikers including Morris? Dublin, De Vries Connolly and we have been told Sylla is capable of playing upfront. We will probably get one striker but his 2 first choice ones next season will probably be Connolly (who ended the season with 7 in 11 or something?) and De Vries who i have slated but has admitted that and started training already to get fit - so ill give him another chance. As long as These 2 and Dublin can get 30-35goals between them we should win matches. Hughes and Williams will get about 10-15between them and i also think the likes of Maybury/Tiatto/Stewart can get another 5-10! I havent even included the center backs or Sylla or anyone yet. It doesnt matter how many you score, its the ratio of goals for and against and if they are spread out
Ric Flair Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 I think it would be wrong to talk numbers of goals. What we need is everybody pulling in the right direction and things will unfold. Levein is trying to build something here and it won't happen over night. We already have a 20 goals a season man in Connolly, if we can play to his strengths and maximise his chances of reaching 20+ then we'll give ourselves a good chance of being in the mix for a play-off place or thereabouts. Saying Hughes and Williams will get 15 between them is a bit far fetched, i'm more interested in seeing them stamp their authority on the game and giving us the emphasis to go and win matches. I think if the midfield can concentrate on supplying Connolly and co with ammunition then the goals will come, possibly from the midfield aswell. I'd be happy to see us end the season with 60+ goals, if that happens then we'll have given it a right good go and we'll be on the up.
Frenzied Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 Hughes amd Williams will have to weigh in with some goals - I would say at least 17 (between them)MDV and Connolly should be getting that each aswell for us to have any chance One of our centre backs (maybe McCarthy) should try and become a centre half in the taggart mould (It would be too much of an ask to be like Elliott!) 120135[/snapback] That's a good point. I suspect we're going to get a lot more goals from the midfield than we've been used to over the years. Judging on the final third of last season Hughes and Williams were constantly getting into great goal scoring positions and each of them likes to get forward - unfortunately their finishing let them down but that could quite easily be ironed out with the coming of next term.
supedaj Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 Hughes amd Williams will have to weigh in with some goals - I would say at least 17 (between them)MDV and Connolly should be getting that each aswell for us to have any chance One of our centre backs (maybe McCarthy) should try and become a centre half in the taggart mould (It would be too much of an ask to be like Elliott!) 120135[/snapback] That's a good point. I suspect we're going to get a lot more goals from the midfield than we've been used to over the years. Judging on the final third of last season Hughes and Williams were constantly getting into great goal scoring positions and each of them likes to get forward - unfortunately their finishing let them down but that could quite easily be ironed out with the coming of next term. 120188[/snapback] I hope so, we deffo need at least one midfielder weighing in with some goals. If its one of Hughes or Williams fine, if both, I hope CL ensures we have an adequate holding player pulling back. Similar to Izzet + Lennon were. I know its probably impossible to try and generate that again but it should be the basis for any midfield relationship. If CL goes with both Hughes and Williams in an attacking role, would Kisnorbo be the holding player? If so, would one of Hughes or Williams have to play on the right/left or would 3-5-2 maybe suit us better? Sorry I may have drifted from the original topic here!
lcfcmad2005 Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 We desperately need two new strikers, it's quite worrying actually. Ever since the Sturm deal fell through nothing is yet to develop in the striker role, which leaves us with 3 strikers if or when Wright leaves, and that is including Morris.. As I said in another thread a while ago, we've got to concentrate on creativity and goalscoring, even last season we had one of the best defensive records in the league despite our position. The other areas of the field are more important now, in my opinion. I couldn't care less how many goals we concede, as long as we finish in the top 10 at least. I've had no value for the money i've paid the last 2 seasons, now i want to see some goals and attacking play. Lets have some 6-5 wins or 3-3 draws, whatever, that shows we're making progress and the entertainment is value for money. Dull 0-0, 1-1 draws don't do it for me. Adam Boyd and RITCHIE PARTRIDGE will do nicely, Craig 119939[/snapback] i have just met ritchie partridge in a night club over here he was with stephen warnock. i ask RP if he has had any contact from leicester and he said: that he heard that they were intersted in him but they havent offered him anything. and i was talki9ng to s. warnock and he was bragging about his champions lge medal. the little shit
Steven Posted 7 June 2005 Posted 7 June 2005 We desperately need two new strikers, it's quite worrying actually. Ever since the Sturm deal fell through nothing is yet to develop in the striker role, which leaves us with 3 strikers if or when Wright leaves, and that is including Morris.. As I said in another thread a while ago, we've got to concentrate on creativity and goalscoring, even last season we had one of the best defensive records in the league despite our position. The other areas of the field are more important now, in my opinion. I couldn't care less how many goals we concede, as long as we finish in the top 10 at least. I've had no value for the money i've paid the last 2 seasons, now i want to see some goals and attacking play. Lets have some 6-5 wins or 3-3 draws, whatever, that shows we're making progress and the entertainment is value for money. Dull 0-0, 1-1 draws don't do it for me. Adam Boyd and RITCHIE PARTRIDGE will do nicely, Craig 119939[/snapback] i have just met ritchie partridge in a night club over here he was with stephen warnock. i ask RP if he has had any contact from leicester and he said: that he heard that they were intersted in him but they havent offered him anything. and i was talki9ng to s. warnock and he was bragging about his champions lge medal. the little shit 120282[/snapback] Come on Ritchie, you know it makes sense.
Ric Flair Posted 8 June 2005 Posted 8 June 2005 We desperately need two new strikers, it's quite worrying actually. Ever since the Sturm deal fell through nothing is yet to develop in the striker role, which leaves us with 3 strikers if or when Wright leaves, and that is including Morris.. As I said in another thread a while ago, we've got to concentrate on creativity and goalscoring, even last season we had one of the best defensive records in the league despite our position. The other areas of the field are more important now, in my opinion. I couldn't care less how many goals we concede, as long as we finish in the top 10 at least. I've had no value for the money i've paid the last 2 seasons, now i want to see some goals and attacking play. Lets have some 6-5 wins or 3-3 draws, whatever, that shows we're making progress and the entertainment is value for money. Dull 0-0, 1-1 draws don't do it for me. Adam Boyd and RITCHIE PARTRIDGE will do nicely, Craig 119939[/snapback] i have just met ritchie partridge in a night club over here he was with stephen warnock. i ask RP if he has had any contact from leicester and he said: that he heard that they were intersted in him but they havent offered him anything. and i was talki9ng to s. warnock and he was bragging about his champions lge medal. the little shit 120282[/snapback] I would be over the moon if we signed him. I can't see it now though as we've signed Sylla and Levein wouldn't sign two new wingers would he? I wish he would, here's hoping.
Louise Posted 8 June 2005 Posted 8 June 2005 Re: strikers, Foxes Trust posted this comment on rivals: "Club is still working on it but nothing imminent"
jjno1 Posted 10 June 2005 Posted 10 June 2005 I noticed that in most games Leicester got free kicks in the best positions to score. I think we should get someone in who would actually score free kicks.
Thracian Posted 12 June 2005 Posted 12 June 2005 This isn't Scotland and if CL is going to succeed here he's going to have to adapt. Most English Championship teams are going to have players well capable of scoring a goal or two and, by definition, defenders who aren't good enough for the Premiership can't be expected to keep too many clean sheets no matter how well organised. Even with their huge draws tally last season, City kept very few clean sheets. Consequently you've got to base your strategy on scoring at least two goals a game because draws for promotion aspirants are usually two points lost rather than one point gained. Two goals and more a game means a) signing at least one prolific scorer and a few have been mentioned on other threads, B) adapting a much more positive approach to winning, both away and at home, rather than being satisfied with one goal and hoping that will do and, towards that end c) making far more of our attacking free kicks. Some of the delivery for free kicks into the box was truly pathetic last season, there was very little devil or imagination at set pieces and too often the final ball into the penalty area from open play was awful...all jobs for the coaches to work on. City's main strikers weren't effective enough last season, but some of the blame was down to lack of creativity, poor passing into the box and a dearth of goals from other quarters. In choosing every outfield player in the team CL should ask himself: can he score goals? People like Walshie, Matty and Muzzy, were forever causing havoc in the opposition penalty area and therefore providing more room and opportunity for the strikers. We had lots of players last seasoon. far too many as it proved, who hardly ever scored. Trouble is, when you're drawing big bucks, it takes a lot of nerve for a a manager to insist on positive attacking football at all times, even when you're in the lead with 10 minutes to go away from home.
Nationwider Posted 12 June 2005 Posted 12 June 2005 Some of the delivery for free kicks into the box was truly pathetic last season, there was very little devil or imagination at set pieces and too often the final ball into the penalty area from open play was awful...all jobs for the coaches to work on. 122777[/snapback] All of your post was spot-on, but this is a really good point. O'Neill's teams were legendary from set-pieces and testament to the fact that if you put enough decent balls into the box, you're going to score eventually (whether it was Taggart, Elliott or a forward). Set-pieces (and crossing generally) was something I thought we were lousy at for most of last season.
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