davieG Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 http://www.guardian....party-ownership Same division but different rules for Cardiff City • Cardiff cannot face same charges as QPR Welsh club answerable only to League and FA of Wales Cardiff City will have no case to answer from the Football Association even if it is proved by the Football League that they have permitted third parties to exercise control over their players. At a time when Queens Park Rangers face a possible points deduction over the Alejandro Faurlín affair, differing regulations apply to the third-placed Welsh club in the same division. Seven days before FA charges arose against QPR in March, Digger revealed that Cardiff hold arrangements that may point to similar third-party influence over team affairs. Cardiff's director and lawyer, Alan Whiteley, denies that the agreements the club hold with the Cayman Islands-registered Player Finance Fund (PFF) constitute third-party influence. The matter is the subject of an ongoing investigation by the Football League. The arrangements pre-date the League's adoption of third-party rules at the beginning of this season. So its inquiry relates instead to whether Ray Ranson, the former chairman of Coventry, exercised any influence over Cardiff's affairs through Sport Asset Capital, his investment company, or the apparently connected PFF, as indicated in Cardiff's accounts. This would be illegal under dual-influence rules. It is believed Ranson, who along with his friend and vice-chairman, Gary Hoffman, quit Coventry in March, denies that either he or any company connected with him has made loans to Cardiff. Complicated? There is one simple fact, however: even if it were proved that Cardiff players were under the control of the chairman of a rival Championship club – which under FA rules might ordinarily lead to a severepoints deduction – there could be no repercussions as there are against QPR. That is because Cardiff are answerable only to the League and to the FA of Wales. An FAW spokesman said on Wednesday: "We have nothing in our statutes to cover third-party ownership of players." Surely it is time for Welsh clubs for them to yield to English rules.
Darkon84 Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 Thats absolute shite! If they are playing in this country, they shold be answerable to this countrys FA. If they are found to be quilty and are not punished, but QPR are, it'l be a travesty!
Finnegan Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 A lot of fuss over nothing. Until Cardiff are proven guilty and the FAW refuse to see them punished then it's largely just typical journalists trying to stoke a fire for the sakes of a story. The FAW may have intervened on a few minor issues in the past but I doubt they're daft enough to blow that big a hole in the working relationship of the two associations. Besides, surely that can't be entirely accurate? The FAW can't actually be responsible for points deductions in the Football League, surely? I mean I could understand if the FAW were able to intervene to stop them being fined but a points deduction to a Football League club? Ridiculous if that comes under the FAW's mandate.
Haydos Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 A lot of fuss over nothing. Until Cardiff are proven guilty and the FAW refuse to see them punished then it's largely just typical journalists trying to stoke a fire for the sakes of a story. The FAW may have intervened on a few minor issues in the past but I doubt they're daft enough to blow that big a hole in the working relationship of the two associations. Besides, surely that can't be entirely accurate? The FAW can't actually be responsible for points deductions in the Football League, surely? I mean I could understand if the FAW were able to intervene to stop them being fined but a points deduction to a Football League club? Ridiculous if that comes under the FAW's mandate. Do you think that Cardiff and Swansea should come completely under FA rule and have no affinity with the FAW? I've never given it too much thought but on first glance I believe they should.
Maybes Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 If playing in the english footballing leagues they should come under english fa rulings. Anything else is just absurd.
Finnegan Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 Do you think that Cardiff and Swansea should come completely under FA rule and have no affinity with the FAW? I've never given it too much thought but on first glance I believe they should. In matters pertaining to the Football League they should accept the ruling of the Football League, it's the competition they play in.
Matt Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 Again. But no of course I just have a invalid, unspecified, unreasoned arguement for questioning the fact they are in the English league going by Welsh rules/get-outs, apparently, or so some people would like to believe.
ScouseFox Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 Play in our league, play by our rules. Not hard really.
Corky Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 If playing in the english footballing leagues they should come under english fa rulings. Anything else is just absurd. Spot on.
FoxyPV Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 The FAW acknowledge that Cardiff making choking a integral part of their season and aim to give them as much help as possible to try and counterbalance this. Alas to no avail!!
Bert Posted 5 May 2011 Posted 5 May 2011 If playing in the english footballing leagues they should come under english fa rulings. Anything else is just absurd. True words.
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