Honesty and realism

[ivarti]

Leicester City have done a number of signings this summer and the squad, as Sven himsself admits, is too big and a bit unbalanced. A number of our players are at the moment uncertaint about which position to be played in and the players we have signed, how good are they really. I myself rates the players City have signed highly, but are they still the quality needed to get a great run this season.

We have paid £ 5 million for Matthew Mills, believe this is too much to splash out on a defender that has a releatively good past with Doncaster and Reading, but no he is not proven at Premier League level and the price is high. Kasper Scmeichel is another good goalkeeepr, but is he a lot better than Chris Weale, who we signed on a free from Bristol City. Lee Peltier, is a young talented player who have been with Huddersfield, unproved at Championship level and signed for a 7 figure fee. David Nugent scored 14 goals last season in 48 games, not really impressive and Neil Danns, played most of the season in a relegation fight with Crystal Palace, never managed to convnce anyone he was Premier League standard while at Birmingham. The last player to have signed, Sean St Ledger, played in a struggling Preston side last season and they went down to league 1.

Jack Hobbs is gone and Hull payed £ 800 000 for him, I hope for Sven and his group that they will get of with a flyer, but we are still missing that goalscoring power up front, we lack power in midfield, and I just cannot see that the amount of money used is really getting the quality we need to get straight up. Newcastle looked much stronger when they won promotion, and the side West Ham will field this season is at this moment on another level. If City have done much more than other clubs, or just paid over the moon for ordinary players is of coures a question to ask.

I will stay positive, but looking into the stats and the way and where these players played last season, we have to wait and see, before the big bell is ringing. Hopefully Sven knows the quality and we can be calm and hopefull for a great run toward promotion ?

[John Matrix]

-1

[RyanB89]

+1

[Haydos]

So......this season is an unknown quantity. I think we're all aware of that. (And Nugent scored 13).

[Goddard]

Reasonable post imo. Not really sure what he's telling us. But it's an ok post.

[Haydos]

Reasonable post imo. Not really sure what he's telling us. But it's an ok post.

[ozleicester]

wow....7 years a member and only 86 posts.

Now i know i spend wayyyy too much time here

[Corky]

Newcastle looked much stronger when they won promotion,

That squad should never have gone down, they were far too good for the division, having spent years in the Premier League, spending money and offering wages we certainly couldn't compete with at the time.

Not many thought Norwich would go up, or Swansea, but they did and deserved to.

Let's see how we start before saying this or that signing isn't good enough, we may well be surprised.

[ivarti]

Reasonable post imo. Not really sure what he's telling us. But it's an ok post.

According to Sven, the owners are looking for a promotion, we are going for a promotion, but have Leicester added the quality needed to be more or less certain, no we haven't, not yet, and almost £ 10 million is splashed out, but hopefully it will not be a new amount of wasted money, like we did with £ 11 million a few years back.

[cc_star]

Of course we've overpaid a bit for a couple of names & look like doing so for another couple of targets

That's what you need to do if the players aren't openly for sale, it's not like we hold all the cards, the club who holds their contract does.

Also some of our signings/targets are attracting Prem/Old firm interest and do you really think they'll join us over them unless we offer a bit more, we are not on a level playing field, we need to go over & above what Premier League clubs & the Old Firm will do to be able to attract them to second tier football with no guarantee of promotion & vastly reduced 'image rights' that come from being in the second tier

It seems we need to pay more than would be ideal upfront in order to be the only club in the running & avoid getting into silly auctions.

We're getting a class of player that was missing last season, we're signing them on permanent deals so there is a chance of building something more lasting than last season's transient gamble.

Apart from a couple of additions and removal of some dead wood we just need them to gel now and act like a team, particularly when we don't have the ball

[ivarti]

That squad should never have gone down, they were far too good for the division, having spent years in the Premier League, spending money and offering wages we certainly couldn't compete with at the time.

Not many thought Norwich would go up, or Swansea, but they did and deserved to.

Let's see how we start before saying this or that signing isn't good enough, we may well be surprised.

Norwich and Swansea will both go straight down, none of them are prepared for a life in the Premier League.

[Goddard]

It's sad, but if we aren't in the top 6 come November I fear for Sven.

Let's hope its all rosey though.

[Les-TA-Jon]

Fans of other clubs are claiming we've only bought "Average players"

Whilst I'd agree that none of the signings are amazing and top players - maybe Sven is building a team rather than a rabble of "star players"

Look at Norwich last season - automatic promotion with a team of average players.

If Sven can get them to gel and to be hard working and organised we'll do well. Who knows what'll happen eh?

Let's just enjoy the ride cos whatever happens this coming season it's going to be a great one I think.

[Corky]

Norwich and Swansea will both go straight down, none of them are prepared for a life in the Premier League.

I thought your point was about getting in to the Premier League, which is what we hope to do.

Clubs with big-name squads have gone up recently, as have clubs without the reputation. We've got a chance.

[ivarti]

Of course we've overpaid a bit for a couple of names & look like doing so for another couple of targets

That's what you need to do if the players aren't openly for sale, it's not like we hold all the cards, the club who holds their contract does.

Also some of our signings/targets are attracting Prem/Old firm interest and do you really think they'll join us over them unless we offer a bit more, we are not on a level playing field, we need to go over & above what Premier League clubs & the Old Firm will do to be able to attract them to second tier football with no guarantee of promotion & vastly reduced 'image rights' that come from being in the second tier

It seems we need to pay more than would be ideal upfront in order to be the only club in the running & avoid getting into silly auctions.

We're getting a class of player that was missing last season, we're signing them on permanent deals so there is a chance of building something more lasting than last season's transient gamble.

Apart from a couple of additions and removal of some dead wood we just need them to gel now and act like a team, particularly when we don't have the ball

Yes if we can get a promotion, it would be great, but we have not added one single player with the experience of getting promoted, and simular situation, fighitng in the top of this division, thatt worries me. Mills failed with Reading, and he has not managed to win a promotion with a team from the Championship. Please go back and see how these promotions are won, often with players who have that experience from the past. Oakley and Howard are the only left now with a real knowledge on how to get into the Premier League, Sven, Tord and Derek F has never done it before either

[Happy Fox]

Yes if we can get a promotion, it would be great, but we have not added one single player with the experience of getting promoted, and simular situation, fighitng in the top of this division, thatt worries me. Mills failed with Reading, and he has not managed to win a promotion with a team from the Championship. Please go back and see how these promotions are won, often with players who have that experience from the past. Oakley and Howard are the only left now with a real knowledge on how to get into the Premier League, Sven, Tord and Derek F has never done it before either

If we get Wayne Routledge for example he been in two championship winning titles campaigns with QPR and Newcastle

[Canadupe]

Anyone who's seen the signings in action will agree that they are decent buys for the division we're in. Are they Premier League standard? Maybe not but then Norwich and Blackpool had very few players that people would have put in that category. If we get Routledge and another quality striker I think we'll be more than fine.

[Corky]

Yes if we can get a promotion, it would be great, but we have not added one single player with the experience of getting promoted, and simular situation, fighitng in the top of this division, thatt worries me. Mills failed with Reading, and he has not managed to win a promotion with a team from the Championship. Please go back and see how these promotions are won, often with players who have that experience from the past. Oakley and Howard are the only left now with a real knowledge on how to get into the Premier League, Sven, Tord and Derek F has never done it before either

How many of the Hull, Blackpool and Swansea squads had that experience then?

[accessory]

Yes if we can get a promotion, it would be great, but we have not added one single player with the experience of getting promoted, and simular situation, fighitng in the top of this division, thatt worries me. Mills failed with Reading, and he has not managed to win a promotion with a team from the Championship. Please go back and see how these promotions are won, often with players who have that experience from the past. Oakley and Howard are the only left now with a real knowledge on how to get into the Premier League, Sven, Tord and Derek F has never done it before either

Neither had Brian Little, Martin O'Neill or Micky Adams, the last three managers to win promotion with us from this level. Little and O'Neill had a lot of "unproven" players too.

[ivarti]

Anyone who's seen the signings in action will agree that they are decent buys for the division we're in. Are they Premier League standard? Maybe not but then Norwich and Blackpool had very few players that people would have put in that category. If we get Routledge and another quality striker I think we'll be more than fine.

City are in a mess at the moment, with too many players in the squad, a difficult man management situation and a lot of heads looking down, don't know why they are part of a pre-season campaign, with many of them probably out of the picture by end of August. The fact that players are getting paid maybe 3 to 4 times more than others is also a problem you can't just push under the carpet. I certainly hope that Sven has controll, because no one else has, or they don't know much about how you are getting a team running. Pearson did everything right at Leicester, and he had started something that made it ok to be part of a group. Sven has not yet seen that and the gaps in sallaries are huge, so things can start to slide. Peter Taylor made great errors in that department when he was in charge and it all ended in administration, so I just hope that everything will work out for City, but things are not 100 % right. Sven never wanted to work on Pearson's work, but as so many former England managers and people that doesn't have to worry about those things. A squad of players feeling under payed or players knowing that they are ower payed and may sitting on the bench for one youngster that earns 3 to 4 times less than you, is not easy to handle. But that can happen and the risk of trouble is huge

[ivarti]

Neither had Brian Little, Martin O'Neill or Micky Adams, the last three managers to win promotion with us from this level. Little and O'Neill had a lot of "unproven" players too.

Brian Little added David Speedie to the squad, a player that was part of promtions at Chelsea and Blackburn. He also had a few others with that experience. Martin O'Neill went up with a certain Steve Walsh in the middle of defence, he had Mike Whitlow who had experience from promotions with Leeds and also earlier with Leicester. Micky Adams had almost an entire team with players who had great experience of playing for City in the Premier League for many seasons. So what you are saying is not based on facts.

[Wherethefoxhat?]

Yes if we can get a promotion, it would be great, but we have not added one single player with the experience of getting promoted, and simular situation, fighitng in the top of this division, thatt worries me. Mills failed with Reading, and he has not managed to win a promotion with a team from the Championship. Please go back and see how these promotions are won, often with players who have that experience from the past. Oakley and Howard are the only left now with a real knowledge on how to get into the Premier League, Sven, Tord and Derek F has never done it before either

One of our recent managers achieved it the season before last .....and i think you'll find he did it without the sort of players to which you're referring !!!!! Although you cannot take that away from him..........

I don't think you'll find one poster on here (providing they are genuine LCFC fans) who would change him for Sven and the calibre of player he is bringing in to the club !!!

[ivarti]

How many of the Hull, Blackpool and Swansea squads had that experience then?

Swansea had a long run of great seasons in the Championship before they finally went up, with experienced players at Championship level. They had been up there for many seasons. Norwich has a group of players that came from one great promotion, with a manager that had won a promotion from League 1, won the Champions League andof course sometimes a great gell could fix most problems and really get a team to work fantastic. Leicester and Sven needs time to build a team, and with the players added now, he has still a lot to do to get this team working 100 % and it could be that in two or three seasons that this will work fantastic, but not straight way in August, then the quality is a bit not there yet.

[ivarti]

One of our recent managers achieved it the season before last .....and i think you'll find he did it without the sort of players to which you're referring !!!!! Although you cannot take that away from him..........

I don't think you'll find one poster on here (providing they are genuine LCFC fans) who would change him for Sven and the calibre of player he is bringing in to the club !!!

Sven is a great manager, but he needs time, and the signigns are avarage, and maybe a pressure of a promotion push will be too much on the players who have come in, none of them have never been part of a Championship promotion push and might need time to adjust, so please be patient and I am scared if anyone will try to axe Sven if we are not among the top 6 teams in the first three months. I rated Nigel Pearson highly and if he can win promotion with Hull this season with Hobbs and Fryatt in the team, then we will see who is right. Fryatt is good, so is Hobbs. and I can't really understand why young players like that is not getting a real chance. They can develope into good players, but were axed useless by Sven, if you see what prices he sold them for.

[Happy Fox]

Sven is a great manager, but he needs time, and the signigns are avarage, and maybe a pressure of a promotion push will be too much on the players who have come in, none of them have never been part of a Championship promotion push and might need time to adjust, so please be patient and I am scared if anyone will try to axe Sven if we are not among the top 6 teams in the first three months. I rated Nigel Pearson highly and if he can win promotion with Hull this season with Hobbs and Fryatt in the team, then we will see who is right. Fryatt is good, so is Hobbs. and I can't really understand why young players like that is not getting a real chance. They can develope into good players, but were axed useless by Sven, if you see what prices he sold them for.

In what way are his signings average