CountesthorpeFox Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 Then why are you starting a thread about possible replacements for Sven six games into the new season? Exactly. You cant start a thread called "managers - who if Sven goes" and then claim its not about replacing Sven, no matter what you may have stated in the opening post.
seenitall Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 I think personally that if we dont get 4 points from our next 2 home games that would be enough to seal his fate. I personally think this would be a rash decision but the Thai's are not here to mess about and want instant success. I would go for Mark Hughs or Dave Jones to be honest or Brian McDermott Dave Jones couldn't get out of this division in about 40 attempts, Brian McDermott, behave and as for Mark Hughes, what could possibly make him want to drop a division and manage someone elses new side, knowing they were given a handful of games to sort it out - we are Leicester City not Arsenal - and as for hanging out of Sven's backside, you guys were calling fro Pearsons head when he had a bad patch in the Championship a couple of years ago and probably were the same goons booing O Neil when he was struggling too. I think some of you would be happier supporting Kettering - average manager, players on low wages, not too scary, and the rest may as well swap to Man City or Utd so they can get that instant top of the league buzz they crave
Guest MattP Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 I can't believe we are even having this discussion. This is the real downside to supporting Leicester. You people are going to be proven so wrong. I hope you are right but with each passing week my confidence in Sven is getting lower. Worrying thing is we have only played one decent team all season. The next few weeks are huge.
accessory Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 Dave Jones couldn't get out of this division in about 40 attempts, Brian McDermott, behave and as for Mark Hughes, what could possibly make him want to drop a division and manage someone elses new side, knowing they were given a handful of games to sort it out - we are Leicester City not Arsenal - and as for hanging out of Sven's backside, you guys were calling fro Pearsons head when he had a bad patch in the Championship a couple of years ago and probably were the same goons booing O Neil when he was struggling too. I think some of you would be happier supporting Kettering - average manager, players on low wages, not too scary, and the rest may as well swap to Man City or Utd so they can get that instant top of the league buzz they crave You would be better off supporting Kettering, since the quality of football is irrelevant to you. Sven's had nearly a year to sort things out. Having seen him go through 50 players and the best part of £15m to date, we are entitled to expect more progress than we've seen.
ozleicester Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 The biggest problem Sven has right now could be solved by colonic irrigation. That would flush out the lowlife who remain stuck firmly up his backside. The Pearson side wasn't perfect, but it was a hell of a lot better than the overpaid dross we're seeing in the shirts now.
Guest MattP Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 The biggest problem Sven has right now could be solved by colonic irrigation. That would flush out the lowlife who remain stuck firmly up his backside. The Pearson side wasn't perfect, but it was a hell of a lot better than the overpaid dross we're seeing in the shirts now. I do agree with you, some people just seem to refuse to want to criticise at any cost, even when he makes some of his most bizarre decisions. If he dropped Kasper for Weale next game I think some would still be shouting "In Sven we trust". Agree on Pearson, I've no doubt the side he had here two years ago would finish higher than this one despite being a lot lower on natural talent.
seenitall Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 You would be better off supporting Kettering, since the quality of football is irrelevant to you. Sven's had nearly a year to sort things out. Having seen him go through 50 players and the best part of £15m to date, we are entitled to expect more progress than we've seen. Quality of football - have you been watching a different team to me for the past 10 years? I have only seen one real quality game in the past few years and that was when we beat Cardiff last year - we sacked Sousa not long after but that night we actually passed the ball and looked good (fell apart after that though so quality is not always the precursor of great things). 50 players? Are you sure you are on the right board - he borrowed some last year because the players we had (Pearsons stars and a few Sousa signings) had us at the bottom of the table and we had a crack at the play offs from being cast adrift after 10 games. This year we have had 6 games in the league W2,D2 and L2 and won both our cup games - the two we lost were sad, truly, and your dream of being top of the table after one game and staying there had to be shelved for a while but we have a new team, something almost every fan would normally dream of, a couple of genuine talents in Beckford and Nugent and for the first time in over 10 years a keeper who looks capable of saving the ball - its not so long ago we were relegated to the 3rd division with a shocking team and no future - you need to sit back and enjoy the football season and all its thrills and spills and stop getting so excited after a few games (4 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats). If the side hasn't gelled at all by Christmas and we are towards the bottom then fair play, you can start to moan but Sven saved us last year (whatever your unrealistic expectations of winning the league may have been) and he deserves a few more than 8 games of which he has won half (just in case you missed that) drawn 2 and lost 2 - that is LOST 2, not all of them. He won't win all of the rest of them you know, nor will Pearson, Jones, or even Alex Ferguson would if he was in this league.
accessory Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 Quality of football - have you been watching a different team to me for the past 10 years? I have only seen one real quality game in the past few years and that was when we beat Cardiff last year - we sacked Sousa not long after but that night we actually passed the ball and looked good (fell apart after that though so quality is not always the precursor of great things). I was at that Cardiff game. Yes we did play well that night (if only in the second half) but the players were fired up and had scores to settle after the playoff defeat. Normal service was resumed under Sousa in the next game. But there were other glimpses of quality after Sven arrived, examples being Leeds (away), and Derby, Millwall and Burnley at home. So we know there is quality within the squad - the question is how to unleash it on a regular basis. Sadly this has too often in recent months been beyond the current management. 50 players? Are you sure you are on the right board - he borrowed some last year because the players we had (Pearsons stars and a few Sousa signings) had us at the bottom of the table and we had a crack at the play offs from being cast adrift after 10 games. The list is here. Some of the signings by previous managers were short of the standard we expect, but Sven's own record is hardly flawless. Remember Kirkland, Bednar or Ricardo? This year we have had 6 games in the league W2,D2 and L2 and won both our cup games - the two we lost were sad, truly, and your dream of being top of the table after one game and staying there had to be shelved for a while but we have a new team, something almost every fan would normally dream of, a couple of genuine talents in Beckford and Nugent and for the first time in over 10 years a keeper who looks capable of saving the ball - its not so long ago we were relegated to the 3rd division with a shocking team and no future - The 2008 side had more potential than at least half a dozen teams that finished above it. Only spectacular mismanagement by the then manager and chairman saw us relegated. Once a manager arrived who knew what he was doing, confidence was restored to fans and players and we sailed through League 1, creating in the process the momentum for our first serious Championship promotion challenge in years. This wouldn't have been possible if the manager and team had been as "terrible" as you imagine them to be. you need to sit back and enjoy the football season and all its thrills and spills and stop getting so excited after a few games (4 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats). If the side hasn't gelled at all by Christmas and we are towards the bottom then fair play, you can start to moan but Sven saved us last year (whatever your unrealistic expectations of winning the league may have been) and he deserves a few more than 8 games of which he has won half (just in case you missed that) drawn 2 and lost 2 - that is LOST 2, not all of them. He won't win all of the rest of them you know, nor will Pearson, Jones, or even Alex Ferguson would if he was in this league. The old myth of "Sven the saviour" gets another airing. What rot. At least a dozen managers available at that time could have kept us up, especially with the budget that the owners gave to Sven. Some may even have laid the foundations for a decent start to this campaign, instead of wrecking the squad and having to start from scratch.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 I like Sven. He needs time to put the teams together. We are mid table unlike last year where we where bottom. If Sven does go (Like every one on this forum at one point in time as said they want) who would want to come to the club? Who could we get? I don't think MON would come because of expectations. Sven leaving at this point would be terrible for our seasons. What do you all think? Yes, I definitely agree. We do need to keep Sven until at least the end of the season. MON, I feel sure would not come, for fear of losing the great reputation he has here.
RedHux Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 Look at the other teams who are struggling who have had wholesale changes to their teams, and strengthened with quality or were pencilled in to be contenders, yet aren't up there at the top of the table. Ipswich, Forrest, Birmingham, & Reading. Do you think their fans are giving up on their managers or being considerate and patient giving time for the team to settle and pick up momentum slowly, rather than blow their load at the end up scraping the relegation zone by the end of the season (see Derby & 'Boro) Just seen this. Our fans are running around in circles and panicking like you wouldn't believe. So much so I've all but stopped reading the boards because of all the ill informed knee jerk nobheads that have crawled out of the woodwork. ...and fwiw, you'd be mad to sack Sven.
Buggsteam Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 Sven gets my backing. We've started average so far but it will come together. Reading are near the bottom but you can garantee they will be near or if not top six come may. Leicester will be up there. ROME was not built in a day. Every team will loose and draw games in a season even Man u, Barca and Madrid do. No I'm not saying were up to there standard but you can't expect to win every game. We've showed signs of good football in parts of games, we just need to get it for the full 90mins. Sven WILL turn it around we just need to get behind him and the team
seenitall Posted 12 September 2011 Posted 12 September 2011 I was at that Cardiff game. Yes we did play well that night (if only in the second half) but the players were fired up and had scores to settle after the playoff defeat. Normal service was resumed under Sousa in the next game. Granted, Sousa was a buffoon but his Swansea side, albeit with a couple of additions, performed pretty well last year - i don't think Mandaric could have sold the club with him in so he had to go, would have been interesting if we had been doing well but luckily for MM we weren 't. But there were other glimpses of quality after Sven arrived, examples being Leeds (away), and Derby, Millwall and Burnley at home. So we know there is quality within the squad - the question is how to unleash it on a regular basis. Sadly this has too often in recent months been beyond the current management. We have been without a quality striker or goalkeeper for many years and the recent signings and many of the decisions Sven made last year support this. Weale, couldn't even get a gif in the Bristol City side when we signed him!! The list is here. Some of the signings by previous managers were short of the standard we expect, but Sven's own record is hardly flawless. Remember Kirkland, Bednar or Ricardo? Kirkland was a poor signing but the problem had been identified and couldn't be solved with a loanee. At the first real opportinity a quality keeper has ben brought in The 2008 side had more potential than at least half a dozen teams that finished above it. Only spectacular mismanagement by the then manager and chairman saw us relegated. Once a manager arrived who knew what he was doing, confidence was restored to fans and players and we sailed through League 1, creating in the process the momentum for our first serious Championship promotion challenge in years. This wouldn't have been possible if the manager and team had been as "terrible" as you imagine them to be. But Pearson would not have inspired players of Beckford and Nugent to come to Leicester any more than Sousa would have done - deny it all you like but Sven is the most succesful England manager of recent years and has won more trophies than the rest of the championship managers put together. Pearsons team were plodders and cloggers who I recall upsetting the faithful on here when they had a 3 game poor run in the 3rd division. Some 'fans' cannot cope with not winning every game they play but guess what, even Man utd will lose a couple this year and God forbid we were as shit as spurs or Arsenal The old myth of "Sven the saviour" gets another airing. What rot. At least a dozen managers available at that time could have kept us up, especially with the budget that the owners gave to Sven. Some may even have laid the foundations for a decent start to this campaign, instead of wrecking the squad and having to start from scratch. Unbelieveable. If you really believe that the squad we had a year ago was good enough and Pearson was good enough then you definitely saw a different team to me - in your thinking we would have stuck with Howard and Fryatt up front and Weale in goal. Back to the Kettering alusion, to get anywhere these days you need a pair of kahunas and a lot of faith, something severely lacking on this board. The 'overpaid' players we have now are small beer compared to the Premiership and thank God the new owners have some faith in the manager. Sven may not be the saviour but compared to the sad sacks mentioned on here, he is the only winner, albeit a bit faded, and we are lucky to have him. The thought of being stuck in this division with an also ran like Pearson (whose football style was as dull as dishwater doesn't bear contemplation and the realmreason the 'fans' are upset is because they can't win every game 5-0. Grow up and enjoy the rollercoaster suckers.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 13 September 2011 Posted 13 September 2011 This whole thing is annoying me now. We drew today, whats the big deal? 6 games in, we're 10th not that bad! 6 games in! People need to realise it won't be easy and cause we have had an average start doesn't mean anything! another 40 games left!! You're right mate. Some people think we should be an instant, Man. Utd.
panky and our gang Posted 13 September 2011 Posted 13 September 2011 I think a reality check is need in terms of Sven and the players he has brought to the club . HE is here because they paid him a ridiculous amount of money to be here ( he is the highest paid manager in this division and probably more than some of the lower prem managers ) THEY the players are here for exactly the same reason the MONEY . Neither Erickson or the players he brought have any allegiance to our club and indeed will still be taking very large wage packets home weather they play crap or not . None of that would matter if we were getting the results and looked like we were heading back to the prem as the revenue for just being in the prem would more than cover that . But they look nothing like a side capable of getting us promoted . Yes I know it's early in the season but can anyone who has watched them really hand on heart say they think it's all of a sudden going to gel and kick in ? Erickson's tactics baffle not only the fans but clearly don't suit the players he brought either . I really hope my gut feeling on this is completely wrong and I hope to be back tracking and apologising in the near future . But I fear the worst . :unsure:
Kitchandro Posted 13 September 2011 Posted 13 September 2011 Football is a marvellous game - lots of close run matches, a nail biting end to the season, managers blending players over the season to get a great team - and then there's the fans, getting behind their teams and supporting them through thick and thin, sharing the highs and lows and welcoming changes to the team, new players who might one day become heroes. Then there's Leicester fans - who want to win every game 15-0 (by half time) think they have a god given right to be one of the big 4 and want a new manager every 5 games, as well as being totally ungrateful that anyone would spend £10m on their (frankly) poorly supported club in an attempt to get them out of the mire they have been in for the past 10 years. Last years team was terrible and Sven has rightly bought a new one - no one was going to invest millions with an untried manager like Pearson at the helm and not many players of Nugent, Schmeical or Beckford's quality would have wanted to come to a club managed by him so please shut up, give Sven a season at least of his own team (which he bought the last player for a week ago) and rest assured if he does fail/leave (and remember guys its 46 games, not 10) we will have another klutz like Pearson or some other no name mid table specialist signing average loan players and stay in the division we're in now, or worse, for years to come. Does anyone else want to overreact to try and sound clever? We are asking that our team performs well against Barnsley and Bristol City, not that we be 15-0 up at half time. Some of the replies to this clearly hypothetical thread are embarrassing.
Guest MattP Posted 13 September 2011 Posted 13 September 2011 Does anyone else want to overreact to try and sound clever? We are asking that our team performs well against Barnsley and Bristol City, not that we be 15-0 up at half time. Some of the replies to this clearly hypothetical thread are embarrassing. The other thread is a classic example. Actually imagine the reaction to a 10-0 away loss to Barnsley.
accessory Posted 13 September 2011 Posted 13 September 2011 Unbelieveable. If you really believe that the squad we had a year ago was good enough and Pearson was good enough then you definitely saw a different team to me - in your thinking we would have stuck with Howard and Fryatt up front and Weale in goal. Pearson brought in more strikers like Waghorn, Gallagher, Kermorgant and Vaughan. It's well-known that he approached Mandaric for funds to strengthen the squad further in January 2010 but was refused, Weale kept something like 20 clean sheets in his first season, which suggests he wasn't entirely without abilty (until his confidence and that of others was wrecked by Sven). Back to the Kettering alusion, to get anywhere these days you need a pair of kahunas and a lot of faith, something severely lacking on this board. The 'overpaid' players we have now are small beer compared to the Premiership and thank God the new owners have some faith in the manager. Several of the recent signings are on Premier wages because that's what Sven had to offer them in order to bring them here. If we're not promoted at the end of the season they'll be off. Sven may not be the saviour but compared to the sad sacks mentioned on here, he is the only winner, albeit a bit faded, and we are lucky to have him. I don't think he's still yet grasped the complexities of the English lower league system or the way that his presence in our dugout makes City a valued scalp for small teams like Watford, Reading or Barnsley. Every game we play is treated by the opposition as a cup final and neither or the players seem able to cope with that level of sustained intensity. The thought of being stuck in this division with an also ran like Pearson (whose football style was as dull as dishwater) doesn't bear contemplation As opposed to the Barcelona Mark 2 we saw in the Reading and Bristol City games, and again at Oakwell last weekend... and the real reason the 'fans' are upset is because they can't win every game 5-0. Grow up and enjoy the rollercoaster suckers. I see - nothing to do with results in the last 20 league games being worse than under Kelly and Holloway. And we all remember what happened to them. Past achievements in other leagues do not earn points in this one - ask Steve McClaren.
Guest MattP Posted 13 September 2011 Posted 13 September 2011 Makes me laugh when anyone says "If we had Pearson we would still be stuck with Hobbs, Weale, Howard, Fryatt, Oakley etc" Whilst they are right that in terms of natural ability we have more now, it really does show what a fantastic manager Pearson was that even with all that "shit" he got us to within a couple of penalty kicks of a play off final." Sven may have some big accolades abroad, a high profile league championship etc but when it comes to being a manager in the English championship he is someway behind what Nigel in terms of "pound for pound".
Izzet is God Posted 14 September 2011 Posted 14 September 2011 Makes me laugh when anyone says "If we had Pearson we would still be stuck with Hobbs, Weale, Howard, Fryatt, Oakley etc" Whilst they are right that in terms of natural ability we have more now, it really does show what a fantastic manager Pearson was that even with all that "shit" he got us to within a couple of penalty kicks of a play off final." Sven may have some big accolades abroad, a high profile league championship etc but when it comes to being a manager in the English championship he is someway behind what Nigel in terms of "pound for pound". I wouldn't say Sven was a woeful Championship manager...it's only his 1st real season in the league and lets be honest its not the easiest! Pearson did a deilghtful job with us and I for one was sad to see him go but Hull aren't exactly doing anything magical atm are they? They're roughly just above top ten finishing sides in the league IMO and I cant see them making the playoffs. The fact they Pearson is buying Fryatt, Hobbs etc is because he's obviously working with players he knows and can perform at this level. Sven has brought us better talented players and it's bound to take time for us to get to where everyone wants us (we're only 6 games into the season!). I really just think people are jumping ship and shooting the hostage on Sven when the bloke hasn't exactly done anything majorly wrong...lets judge us around the xmas period and then decide what the next step should be.
Basil Brush Posted 14 September 2011 Posted 14 September 2011 I would drop Sven like a shot for O'neil, but not Coppell ffs. I just wonder if Svens heart is in football now?
HEGGSY Posted 14 September 2011 Posted 14 September 2011 Billy Davies would be my choice if it unfortunately came to sven getting the sack but thats just my opinion others will obviously disagree
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 15 September 2011 Posted 15 September 2011 Firstly I do not want another manager. I want Sven to show everyone his pedigree, get the team playing to it's full potential. Having said that wanting and getting are not the same. If he does go I would love to see MON back or Lee Clark. Doubt if the Thais would employ someo one like Clark however as they will want a recognisable name in charge. If MON does not want it we will end up with someone like Benitez or Roy Keane who will then continue to hemorrhage their money and acheiving fook all.
irememberwellerstights Posted 15 September 2011 Posted 15 September 2011 Billy Davis Billy Bag Eyes^^
Hack Posted 15 September 2011 Posted 15 September 2011 I would drop Sven like a shot for O'neil, but not Coppell ffs. I just wonder if Svens heart is in football now? We should be glad they don't let high school boys choose our Manager then shouldn't we. Honestly, these sorts of statements are just plan sad. I know this is a fan forum, but really.
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