Does Sven have his favourites?

[Churchill]

Im just abit worried that he has his favourites E.G dropping Gelson to the bench for what reason? Then bringing in Johnson, don't get me wrong Johnson has not done anything wrong but at the same time aint done anything brilliant. Vassell is either on the bench or in the starting 11 when sometimes has a complete nightmare but still in the 16 for the following week when i would pick Dyer over Vassell ATM due to the fact that Dyer will run at defenders and beat them where as Vassell will run at them but then end up at the corner flag. As a striker Vassell is ok but he aint a winger, i don't think Howard has been given a chance or even use him as a plan B. Ok Sven wants to build his own team but i think there is still a few players thats he's forgot about that could still put in a shift for us.

[I am Rod Hull]

[Bert]

Yes he does.

[Happy Fox]

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The word from those in the know is the players want Sven out.

People like Neil Danns are openly rebelling.

Suspect he's lost most of the dressing room.

Why anyone was ever taken in by all the hype around the Fanny Merchant I'll never know.

Lets hope Steve Guppy was right on Saturday and MON will be in during the next international break.

If Top gets a muppet in like McLaren or Bryan Robson we are relegated.

Any truth in what SohoFox is alluding to?

[ACF]

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The word from those in the know is the players want Sven out.

People like Neil Danns are openly rebelling.

Suspect he's lost most of the dressing room.

Why anyone was ever taken in by all the hype around the Fanny Merchant I'll never know.

Lets hope Steve Guppy was right on Saturday and MON will be in during the next international break.

If Top gets a muppet in like McLaren or Bryan Robson we are relegated.

Any truth in what SohoFox is alluding to?

Neil Danns isn't rebelling, check his twitter, all rumours.

[Guest Col city fan]

Course he has his favourites..

Every manager does..its about being a manager..

[Mack]

[Churchill]

Course he has his favourites..

Every manager does..its about being a manager..

Yes you can have your favourites but if your favourite is not performing then he must be dropped. I think Fernandes has been the most consistent player but yet soon as we lose he gets dropped?

[Guest Col city fan]

Yes you can have your favourites but if your favourite is not performing then he must be dropped. I think Fernandes has been the most consistent player but yet soon as we lose he gets dropped?

So what you really meant was 'why has Sven dropped Gelson?'.. why not use that title?

[BrummieFOX]

I'm sure most managers have 'favourites' or at least players they feel they can trust. Just look at Chelsea, Lampard, Drogba, Cech and a few others are practically assistant managers apparently.

Also, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a bit of unrest in the dressing room. We've suffered some bad results and worse performances recently and players will have their own ideas as to who is to blame. However people read far too much into these supposed 'bust-ups'. Everyone doesn't have to be best mates to make a successful team!!

I'm all for looking at Sven and the teams mistakes and analysing poor performances but favouritism and dressing room unrest are just silly rumours and not of much importance at the moment.

[Guest Col city fan]

I'm sure most managers have 'favourites' or at least players they feel they can trust. Just look at Chelsea, Lampard, Drogba, Cech and a few others are practically assistant managers apparently.

Also, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a bit of unrest in the dressing room. We've suffered some bad results and worse performances recently and players will have their own ideas as to who is to blame. However people read far too much into these supposed 'bust-ups'. Everyone doesn't have to be best mates to make a successful team!!

I'm all for looking at Sven and the teams mistakes and analysing poor performances but favouritism and dressing room unrest are just silly rumours and not of much importance at the moment.

blimey! have you ever played football?

You really think that the psychology of 'dressing room harmony or unrest' is not a major part of football?

Football is as much about 'whether your face fits' with the boss, with the other players and with the fans as about anything else.

Or are players picked week-in, week out based solely upon ability?

I'm sorry but this is just naive and dangerous to overlook.

[Churchill]

So what you really meant was 'why has Sven dropped Gelson?'.. why not use that title?

No because i was using Gelson as an example, you look at when we beat Derby Howard,Dyer and Schlupp all came on and made an impact then the following week at Birmingham all 3 of them get dropped for Wellens,Johnson and Beckford. The players should be earning a start in the line up not just stroll in.

[davieG]

blimey! have you ever played football?

You really think that the psychology of 'dressing room harmony or unrest' is not a major part of football?

Football is as much about 'whether your face fits' with the boss, with the other players and with the fans as about anything else.

Or are players picked week-in, week out based solely upon ability?

I'm sorry but this is just naive and dangerous to overlook.

...and applies to every football team, increasing/decreasing depending on how successful the team is at the time.

One thing that seems to be consistently reported about Sven is how the players like him/get on with him whether being picked or not.

This is just another clutching of straws to find out why we're not consistent, people keep ignoring the obvious - it takes time, the more newcomers you have the longer it takes and there's not set time limit it can vary for a 1000s reasons.

[BrummieFOX]

Yes, agreed, the psychology of a dressing room is very important and if we had evidence that there was something serious wrong then it would warrant discussion. However there's no need for everyone to get in a frenzy about a couple of potential arguements. My point was that there are disagreements and arguements at every club across the country and with us puting in a few very poor performances I'd actually be suprised if they werent happening within our club at the moment, at least it shows that the players care.

Yes I have played football for a number of teams.

...and applies to every football team, increasing/decreasing depending on how successful the team is at the time.

One thing that seems to be consistently reported about Sven is how the players like him/get on with him whether being picked or not.

This is just another clutching of straws to find out why we're not consistent, people keep ignoring the obvious - it takes time, the more newcomers you have the longer it takes and there's not set time limit it can vary for a 1000s reasons.

Yea, that.

[Guest Col city fan]

No because i was using Gelson as an example, you look at when we beat Derby Howard,Dyer and Schlupp all came on and made an impact then the following week at Birmingham all 3 of them get dropped for Wellens,Johnson and Beckford. The players should be earning a start in the line up not just stroll in.

Look at the three you've mentioned that got brought-in.... Dyer (quite passive), Schlupp (young, not got any clout yet), Howard (happy enough just to be at the club)...

Then look at the three that got brought back.. Wellens (pretty outspoken), Johnson (Sven's young prodigee), Beckford (moody sod)

Any coincidence?

I think its less about Sven's favourites, than about Sven not being tough enough to manage his 'big names'...

Thats why I'd be very surprised if we dont start with Beckford on saturday... with the ridiculous performance he put in against Millwall, he should be dropped.

Betcha he wont be...

[accessory]

Neil Danns isn't rebelling, check his twitter, all rumours.

His explanation on there is curious and unconvincing.

Why would he leave to collect his family so they could watch a match in which he wouldn't feature?

[Guest Col city fan]

...and applies to every football team, increasing/decreasing depending on how successful the team is at the time.

One thing that seems to be consistently reported about Sven is how the players like him/get on with him whether being picked or not.

This is just another clutching of straws to find out why we're not consistent, people keep ignoring the obvious - it takes time, the more newcomers you have the longer it takes and there's not set time limit it can vary for a 1000s reasons.

Davie, you do your usual 'bigging-up' of Sven at every opportunity. We spoke a few weeks ago about how, in my opinion, Sven's after match interviews sometimes verge on the ridiculous.. and this weeks was possibly the best yet

It could be, just could be that Sven is too nice..which of the players, in the PC world of football today, are ever gonna openly come out and say that they consider Sven is a bit of a twit.

Just because hes a nice guy, doesnt mean he will command respect..

Why are you so closed to any possible criticism of Sven, the manager?

Are you a friend of his (serious question) because your mind appears closed to any questioning of his management skills?

[Churchill]

Look at the three you've mentioned that got brought-in.... Dyer (quite passive), Schlupp (young, not got any clout yet), Howard (happy enough just to be at the club)...

Then look at the three that got brought back.. Wellens (pretty outspoken), Johnson (Sven's young prodigee), Beckford (moody sod)

Any coincidence?

I think its less about Sven's favourites, than about Sven not being tough enough to manage his 'big names'...

Thats why I'd be very surprised if we dont start with Beckford on saturday... with the ridiculous performance he put in against Millwall, he should be dropped.

Betcha he wont be...

We will have to wait and see but soon as we go 1 nill down we just don't look like we can come back and win the game, then you look at the bench and think who can we bring on to change the game and we have a bench full of midfielders

[Dan]

His favourites it appears to me are Schmeichel, Bamba, Wellens & Vassell.

[m00nie]

was an article in one of the papers recently(sure linked to it on here in another thread) where one the england players said he did, said he would play players even if out of position just to accomadate them.

[RizLCFC]

He certainly does have his favourites and I don't think its healthy for a manager to do that. Vassell and Johnson stick out most to me this season, don't mind the latter but Vassell is just useless, he plays as a winger when he's supposedly a striker but when he gets a chance he just doesn't seem to find the net, and his aimless running is driving me crazy but yet he is either in the starting 11 or on the bench, and players like Dyer and Gallagher who in my opinion are much better than him are not even in the 16. Yes, Dyer has been on the bench in the last couple of matches but where was he before that?

Even last season, he was really stubborn when he stuck with Ricardo in net when he clearly was out of sorts in every game, and then he played Bruma all the bloody time! I don't know whether Wellens is a favourite of his but I jolly well hope not because he's not even half the player he was last season. But, after that rant at Sven I still really want him to do well as an individual at Leicester and I really feel for him the way the media treats him etc and of course I want our club to do well also, so lets hope he can identify his errors tactically and the rest and we can start being more consistent.

[Guest Col city fan]

was an article in one of the papers recently(sure linked to it on here in another thread) where one the england players said he did, said he would play players even if out of position just to accomadate them.

sounds about right..

[BrummieFOX]

Look at the three you've mentioned that got brought-in.... Dyer (quite passive), Schlupp (young, not got any clout yet), Howard (happy enough just to be at the club)...

Then look at the three that got brought back.. Wellens (pretty outspoken), Johnson (Sven's young prodigee), Beckford (moody sod)

Any coincidence?

I think its less about Sven's favourites, than about Sven not being tough enough to manage his 'big names'...

Thats why I'd be very surprised if we dont start with Beckford on saturday... with the ridiculous performance he put in against Millwall, he should be dropped.

Betcha he wont be...

Would you say the same applies to Rooney for United? In terrible form, bullied the club over his contract but still gets in the team. Is Fergie not hard enough?

His explanation on there is curious and unconvincing.

Why would he leave to collect his family so they could watch a match in which he wouldn't feature?

Perhaps they were coming anyone, but as he wasn't in the team he was able to give them a lift.

I hate having to do this and I am not trying to defend Sven or the team in anyway but it's just fairer to look at these situations rationally. We haven't a clue about Danns. Maybe he stormed off, maybe he genuinely picked up his family, but there's no need to speculate and cause potentially harmful rumours.

[Guest Col city fan]

Would you say the same applies to Rooney for United? In terrible form, bullied the club over his contract but still gets in the team. Is Fergie not hard enough?

Perhaps they were coming anyone, but as he wasn't in the team he was able to give them a lift.

I hate having to do this and I am not trying to defend Sven or the team in anyway but it's just fairer to look at these situations rationally. We haven't a clue about Danns. Maybe he stormed off, maybe he genuinely picked up his family, but there's no need to speculate and cause potentially harmful rumours.

? as far as I can remember Rooney was dropped for some time?

Was it not Fergie that got rid of Beckham, and has always built his teams on players he considers to have a great work ethic and a loyalty to the club? Fergie is well-known for getting rid of players who don't fight for the cause of Manchester United football club and who consider themselves to be prima donnas

Bad example.....

What goes on in the 'dressing-room' is absolutely key to success or failure. You are correct, very few of us actually know what happens at City in terms of players r/ships etc..

However, on Saturday against Millwall the players heads dropped in an alarming way... and this needs to be rectified.

Is Sven the 'motivator' to do this..we'll see i suppose

[davieG]

Davie, you do your usual 'bigging-up' of Sven at every opportunity. We spoke a few weeks ago about how, in my opinion, Sven's after match interviews sometimes verge on the ridiculous.. and this weeks was possibly the best yet

It could be, just could be that Sven is too nice..which of the players, in the PC world of football today, are ever gonna openly come out and say that they consider Sven is a bit of a twit.

Just because hes a nice guy, doesnt mean he will command respect..

Why are you so closed to any possible criticism of Sven, the manager?

Are you a friend of his (serious question) because your mind appears closed to any questioning of his management skills?

I'm not bigging him up I'm trying to introduce a degree of reality into people's impatience and knee-jerk reactions. I've just stated facts or reported on what appears to be the case judging by previous reports.

My view on Sven is he's got a lot to improve on, I'm not too happy with the team or the make up of it. e.g Wingers, but do we know if he tried to get some in but couldn't get the quality he needed - no we don't people just assume what they want to justify their opinions. I think we lack many things but that doesn't mean they've not been seen by Sven and attempted to be put right.

Of course he can be too nice, it was something I was accused of as a manager, but it's pure speculation that he is, we simply do not know. It's just straw clutching to say so.

As for the Sven out brigade I just don't see that it's justified at this time based on our current league status and I also don't feel it would solve the problems neither do I see a suitable replacement out there who is free to come here.

Yes he'll have his favourites but I'd guess they'll be all sorts of different reasons for that and that accusation has been thrown at every manager we've had during the 50 years I've been following them but predictable only crops up when we not doing so well.