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Who DON'T You Want As Our Next Manager

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Posted

He was the first manager Randy Lerner appointed, so MON worked for him for the entirety of his time at Villa Park.

but in the end he left because he didnt agree with theway foreigners ran the club.

all im saying is, fans are getting there hopes up wanting MON when the chances of getting him are slim.

Posted

Here's the thing with Billy, it's all about brand Billy. He'll almost certainly get you promoted but there will be a lot of away draws, a lot of time wasting and a whole lot of grinding out points. This is something a lot of Forest fans forget preferring to focus on the short period of time we were frankly unstoppable. He will spend a fortune and still claim to not have the full support of the clubs money men. That season we were nearly relegated we'd brought in a sack load of loans to keep us up and then bought most of them and more for the following season spending around 10m in the process and still he whined about needing "..one or two stellar signings".

Was he in charge either last season or the season before at ours,when the side took timewasting to a whole new level......if so no thanks.

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Posted

surely the very worst 2 managers in world football would be Avram Grant and Glen Roader, followed closely by Souness, and may be throw Wise in there

would you really want to see 'Mr Toad' week-in, week-out?

avram-grant.jpg

:giggle:

Posted

He's managed one of them to promotion and the other one to the play offs twice in two years on a shoestring. As someone else rightly pointed out, if it weren't for Newcastle that season he'd have got them up automatically. It's a good job Forest supporters didn't turn round in the 70s and say they didn't want that Clough bloke because he'd managed Derby (not comparing the two managers but the principle's the same).

And also wouldn't it be great for him to get us up, not them and stick a V up at the red side of the Trent?

It was far from a shoestring. Spent over 10m in his first pre-season. Spent a couple of million after that and brought in some hugely expensive loans, Shorey, Kris Boyd ( we apparently covered all his wages), Some ropey LB with no hair...

He's a good manager but it's a myth he managed it on bugger all.

Posted

It was far from a shoestring. Spent over 10m in his first pre-season. Spent a couple of million after that and brought in some hugely expensive loans, Shorey, Kris Boyd ( we apparently covered all his wages), Some ropey LB with no hair...

He's a good manager but it's a myth he managed it on bugger all.

We have the money, that's not an issue.

But you can confirm he's a good manager, thanks, that's all we need.

Posted

All those wanting Billy Davies should read this article and ask whether an ego this large (far outstripping his actual achievements as a manager) is likely to get on with our owners.

When he was at Derby, where his collection of hoofers, hackers and cloggers earned promotion but were badly found out in the top flight, he emerged as the Scottish equivalent of Neil Warnock. Nothing he did at Forest led me to change that view. Forest were particularly dire in both of their last two visits to Leicester.

Who else should have their applications consigned straight to the bin? There's a frighteningly long list of current out-of-work managers still seeking employment on the LMA website:

Gary Ablett

Carlo Ancelotti

Ossie Ardiles

John Barnes MBE

John Beck

Rafael Benitez

Kevin Blackwell

Aidy Boothroyd

Paul Bracewell

Ian Branfoot

Ian Brightwell

Paul Brush

Alan Buckley

George Burley

Mark Cooper

Neale Cooper

Simon Davey

John Deehan

Kevin Dillon

Ian Dowie

Martin Foyle

Jim Gannon

Dean Glover

Avram Grant

Ruud Gullit

Bryan Gunn

Mick Harford

Glenn Hoddle

David Hodgson

John Hollins MBE

Gerard Houllier OBE

Paul Ince

Peter Jackson

Dave Jones

Joe Kinnear

Brian Laws

Colin Lee

Brian Little

Mel Machin

Gary McAllister MBE

Steve McClaren

Sammy McIlroy

Charlie McParland

Keith Millen

Richard Money

Ronnie Moore

Jimmy Mullen

Mike Newell

Sean O'Driscoll

David O'Leary

Tony Parkes

Dave Penney

Kevin Ratcliffe

Peter Reid

Lee Richardson

Andy Ritchie

Mark Robins

Bryan Robson OBE

Graham Rodger

Glenn Roeder

Leroy Rosenior

Ian Sampson

John Schofield

Paul Simpson

Dennis Smith

Graeme Souness

Gordon Strachan OBE

Chris Sutton

Stan Ternent

Steve Thompson

Gudjon Thordarson

Steve Tilson

Colin Todd

Chris Turner

Gianluca Vialli

Ray Wilkins MBE

Geraint Williams

Dennis Wise (he wouldn't dare apply, would he?)

Nigel Worthington

Mark Wright

Gianfranco Zola OBE

Posted

Yep, He's good and would, IMO, get you promoted.

If his style of defence first would be of any use in the prem though is anybody's guess.

We need to get there first, we can face that if we get there ha.

Posted

All those wanting Billy Davies should read this article and ask whether an ego this large (far outstripping his actual achievements as a manager) is likely to get on with our owners.

When he was at Derby, where his collection of hoofers, hackers and cloggers earned promotion but were badly found out in the top flight, he emerged as the Scottish equivalent of Neil Warnock. Nothing he did at Forest led me to change that view. Forest were particularly dire in both of their last two visits to Leicester.

How were they in their home games against us? :whistle:

I'm sorry but that Forest team was excellent, no two ways about that. God knows why they choked in the play-offs twice though.

Posted
Forest were particularly dire in both of their last two visits to Leicester.

This is true. Apart from one unbeaten spell of a good long while (lots of 1-1 and 0-0s) we were consistently poor away. Always set up not to lose rather then to win. Also if we went behind we were mostly knackered as anyone at the Walkers (as was) the last time would testify to. It was like watching school football. You lot sat back and said "come on then", and we hadn't the intelligence to do anything of any use.

Posted

How were they in their home games against us? :whistle:

I'm sorry but that Forest team was excellent, no two ways about that. God knows why they choked in the play-offs twice though.

Second leg against Swansea for reasons known only to Billy we played our reserve forward line. Three players who normally wouldn't get near the first team.

Blackpool was just how we roll in the playoffs. :D

Posted

This is true. Apart from one unbeaten spell of a good long while (lots of 1-1 and 0-0s) we were consistently poor away. Always set up not to lose rather then to win. Also if we went behind we were mostly knackered as anyone at the Walkers (as was) the last time would testify to. It was like watching school football. You lot sat back and said "come on then", and we hadn't the intelligence to do anything of any use.

Sounds like Sven

Posted

John Beck!

I thought he'd long since retired!

The King of Long Ball if memory serves.

Posted

All those wanting Billy Davies should read this article and ask whether an ego this large (far outstripping his actual achievements as a manager) is likely to get on with our owners.

When he was at Derby, where his collection of hoofers, hackers and cloggers earned promotion but were badly found out in the top flight, he emerged as the Scottish equivalent of Neil Warnock. Nothing he did at Forest led me to change that view. Forest were particularly dire in both of their last two visits to Leicester.

Who else should have their applications consigned straight to the bin? There's a frighteningly long list of current out-of-work managers still seeking employment on the LMA website:

Gary Ablett

Carlo Ancelotti

Ossie Ardiles

John Barnes MBE

John Beck

Rafael Benitez

Kevin Blackwell

Aidy Boothroyd

Paul Bracewell

Ian Branfoot

Ian Brightwell

Paul Brush

Alan Buckley

George Burley

Mark Cooper

Neale Cooper

Simon Davey

John Deehan

Kevin Dillon

Ian Dowie

Martin Foyle

Jim Gannon

Dean Glover

Avram Grant

Ruud Gullit

Bryan Gunn

Mick Harford

Glenn Hoddle

David Hodgson

John Hollins MBE

Gerard Houllier OBE

Paul Ince

Peter Jackson

Dave Jones

Joe Kinnear

Brian Laws

Colin Lee

Brian Little

Mel Machin

Gary McAllister MBE

Steve McClaren

Sammy McIlroy

Charlie McParland

Keith Millen

Richard Money

Ronnie Moore

Jimmy Mullen

Mike Newell

Sean O'Driscoll

David O'Leary

Tony Parkes

Dave Penney

Kevin Ratcliffe

Peter Reid

Lee Richardson

Andy Ritchie

Mark Robins

Bryan Robson OBE

Graham Rodger

Glenn Roeder

Leroy Rosenior

Ian Sampson

John Schofield

Paul Simpson

Dennis Smith

Graeme Souness

Gordon Strachan OBE

Chris Sutton

Stan Ternent

Steve Thompson

Gudjon Thordarson

Steve Tilson

Colin Todd

Chris Turner

Gianluca Vialli

Ray Wilkins MBE

Geraint Williams

Dennis Wise (he wouldn't dare apply, would he?)

Nigel Worthington

Mark Wright

Gianfranco Zola OBE

Some very scary names in there. How about Carlton Palmer?

Posted

Surely some of those people aren't still looking for a managers job! I'm sure many of them would have something to offer in a coaching job but not as a manager.

People like Glenn Roeder and Bryan Robson have failed time and time again.

Posted

Who else should have their applications consigned straight to the bin? There's a frighteningly long list of current out-of-work managers still seeking employment on the LMA website:

Ronnie Moore

Jimmy Mullen

Mike Newell

Sean O'Driscoll

Shit, do you remember a few years ago when we were trying desperately to get Mike Newell from Luton? Thank God we failed.

Posted

All those wanting Billy Davies should read this article and ask whether an ego this large (far outstripping his actual achievements as a manager) is likely to get on with our owners.

When he was at Derby, where his collection of hoofers, hackers and cloggers earned promotion but were badly found out in the top flight, he emerged as the Scottish equivalent of Neil Warnock. Nothing he did at Forest led me to change that view. Forest were particularly dire in both of their last two visits to Leicester.

Who else should have their applications consigned straight to the bin? There's a frighteningly long list of current out-of-work managers still seeking employment on the LMA website:

Gary Ablett

Carlo Ancelotti

Ossie Ardiles

John Barnes MBE

John Beck

Rafael Benitez

Kevin Blackwell

Aidy Boothroyd

Paul Bracewell

Ian Branfoot

Ian Brightwell

Paul Brush

Alan Buckley

George Burley

Mark Cooper

Neale Cooper

Simon Davey

John Deehan

Kevin Dillon

Ian Dowie

Martin Foyle

Jim Gannon

Dean Glover

Avram Grant

Ruud Gullit

Bryan Gunn

Mick Harford

Glenn Hoddle

David Hodgson

John Hollins MBE

Gerard Houllier OBE

Paul Ince

Peter Jackson

Dave Jones

Joe Kinnear

Brian Laws

Colin Lee

Brian Little

Mel Machin

Gary McAllister MBE

Steve McClaren

Sammy McIlroy

Charlie McParland

Keith Millen

Richard Money

Ronnie Moore

Jimmy Mullen

Mike Newell

Sean O'Driscoll

David O'Leary

Tony Parkes

Dave Penney

Kevin Ratcliffe

Peter Reid

Lee Richardson

Andy Ritchie

Mark Robins

Bryan Robson OBE

Graham Rodger

Glenn Roeder

Leroy Rosenior

Ian Sampson

John Schofield

Paul Simpson

Dennis Smith

Graeme Souness

Gordon Strachan OBE

Chris Sutton

Stan Ternent

Steve Thompson

Gudjon Thordarson

Steve Tilson

Colin Todd

Chris Turner

Gianluca Vialli

Ray Wilkins MBE

Geraint Williams

Dennis Wise

Nigel Worthington

Mark Wright

Gianfranco Zola OBE

Why not?

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