chili_con_carne Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Okay I know I will get thrown abuse for suggesting this... Last January we were throwing a lot of money around on players like naughton, yakubu, van aanholt, etc etc. this January we have signed Danny drinkwater. I personally think this is the right way of doing things because you need to sign players who are ambitious and give 100% every game. and who fit into the right team ethic. Drinkwater fits into this category perfectly. I was surprised that the owners appointed Pearson because it is just odd how you go from a world known ex England boss to Pearson. Don't get me wrong I am happy with the appointment but what concerns me is that something doesn't seem right with the owners. Pearson said the aim was to sign some wide players but Circumstances have changed a bit and are just trying to get good players into the club. How have circumstances changed? if dyer gets injured then we are left with the fonz to play left mid. and I'm not being funny but I love dyer but he's just not quite good enough. Are the owners just not prepared to splash the cash as they were previously? with the billy sharp deal falling through, offering stupid money for Cameron Stewart and signing players who are a lot cheaper than usual. also Yuki abe leaving, rumours of our highest earners in beckford and mills leaving. So is it down to Pearson saying don't spend too much? Or the owners not allowing it?
Wherethefoxhat? Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Okay I know I will get thrown abuse for suggesting this... Last January we were throwing a lot of money around on players like naughton, yakubu, van aanholt, etc etc. this January we have signed Danny drinkwater. I personally think this is the right way of doing things because you need to sign players who are ambitious and give 100% every game. and who fit into the right team ethic. Drinkwater fits into this category perfectly. I was surprised that the owners appointed Pearson because it is just odd how you go from a world known ex England boss to Pearson. Don't get me wrong I am happy with the appointment but what concerns me is that something doesn't seem right with the owners. Pearson said the aim was to sign some wide players but Circumstances have changed a bit and are just trying to get good players into the club. How have circumstances changed? if dyer gets injured then we are left with the fonz to play left mid. and I'm not being funny but I love dyer but he's just not quite good enough. Are the owners just not prepared to splash the cash as they were previously? with the billy sharp deal falling through, offering stupid money for Cameron Stewart and signing players who are a lot cheaper than usual. also Yuki abe leaving, rumours of our highest earners in beckford and mills leaving. So is it down to Pearson saying don't spend too much? Or the owners not allowing it? Neither . Pearson just wants to recruit the RIGHT players .
THEFATBASTARD Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 lets just bring anybody in shall we? if pearson can't get the players he wants whats the point in collecting players? this is a new approach.get used to it.
jonlcfc1990 Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 "We will not be held to ransom for players" This transfer market is nearly impossible to get right. Players that are in a team will not leave unless the club wants some money before they move on a free in the summer. Look at Neil Lennon Southampton say they like Hooper he says "£35MILLION" 35 FVCKING MILLION! For an SPL Striker it's mental We might well want Cameron Stewart and other such wingers but at the end of the day we can get them for less in the summer so why pour wasted cash in to it now.
chili_con_carne Posted 25 January 2012 Author Posted 25 January 2012 lets just bring anybody in shall we? if pearson can't get the players he wants whats the point in collecting players? this is a new approach.get used to it. Wtf? I said in my post I think it's the right way of doing things. But with the owners not being seen or heard of for ages I have a few doubts.
The Doctor Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 "We will not be held to ransom for players" This transfer market is nearly impossible to get right. Players that are in a team will not leave unless the club wants some money before they move on a free in the summer. Look at Neil Lennon Southampton say they like Hooper he says "£35MILLION" 35 FVCKING MILLION! For an SPL Striker it's mental We might well want Cameron Stewart and other such wingers but at the end of the day we can get them for less in the summer so why pour wasted cash in to it now. For anyone it's a ridiculous price. However, Hooper is better than Carroll, so they should get a better price for him than Newcastle did for Carroll.
PegguyArphexad Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 It's the new approach and it's the right approach. Due to the fundamental failings in Sven's management City's push for promotion is now going to be a much longer process in which the club needs to recover from some awful recruitment and dire financial planning. NP will get it right. But, it will take time. Just enjoy the ride...
flowwolf Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Logically the owners must be thinking why throw money around at this stage of the season it's not as if we are in poll position and just need a couple of players to see us over the line is it ? Plus you will not get the same standard of players in the January window that you will in close season. I think mentally they have already written off this season and the players that may come here now are for next seasons promotion push. Of course there is a outside possibility of the playoffs and if we get in the top six who knows , if we play like we have in the last two games in a playoff we could beat anyone. Trust in Pearson more so for next season he will get it right.
jonlcfc1990 Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 For anyone it's a ridiculous price. However, Hooper is better than Carroll, so they should get a better price for him than Newcastle did for Carroll. If Carroll and Hooper are worth 35 million messi is worth the GDP of japan
chili_con_carne Posted 25 January 2012 Author Posted 25 January 2012 Logically the owners must be thinking why throw money around at this stage of the season it's not as if we are in poll position and just need a couple of players to see us over the line is it ? Plus you will not get the same standard of players in the January window that you will in close season. I think mentally they have already written off this season and the players that may come here now are for next seasons promotion push. Of course there is a outside possibility of the playoffs and if we get in the top six who knows , if we play like we have in the last two games in a playoff we could beat anyone. Trust in Pearson more so for next season he will get it right. But will Pearson be here in the summer? he has said on a number of occasions he knows what his remit is. That sounds to me like promotion this season. I just hope I'm wrong.
Babylon Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 How have circumstances changed? if dyer gets injured then we are left with the fonz to play left mid. and I'm not being funny but I love dyer but he's just not quite good enough. Are the owners just not prepared to splash the cash as they were previously? with the billy sharp deal falling through, offering stupid money for Cameron Stewart and signing players who are a lot cheaper than usual. also Yuki abe leaving, rumours of our highest earners in beckford and mills leaving. So is it down to Pearson saying don't spend too much? Or the owners not allowing it? Circumstances have changed because Abe wanted to go home, King got injured, so did Schlupp and Gallagher. Areas we had plenty of bodies for before have now become weak points, which means they also need looking at. We have bid good money for Sharp and Stewart. Money is there, but Pearson wants the right people. If they aren't willing to join or the clubs aren't willing to sell there isn't much you can do. The owners have probably realsied after the Sven experiement that throwing big money at transfers and wages for "names" does nothing. It's looks to me like they are very willing to back Pearson, but everyone accepts a new model is needed as you cannot keep going on as we were. Chill.
The Doctor Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Well they aren't actually worth it, it's just the combination of inflation, January tax and British player tax. Meanwhile, Akinbiyi is worth the GDP of Greece.
Babylon Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Wtf? I said in my post I think it's the right way of doing things. But with the owners not being seen or heard of for ages I have a few doubts. They have been playing polo and winning a cup, it's been on here already.
chili_con_carne Posted 25 January 2012 Author Posted 25 January 2012 Circumstances have changed because Abe wanted to go home, King got injured, so did Schlupp and Gallagher. Areas we had plenty of bodies for before have now become weak points, which means they also need looking at. We have bid good money for Sharp and Stewart. Money is there, but Pearson wants the right people. If they aren't willing to join or the clubs aren't willing to sell there isn't much you can do. The owners have probably realsied after the Sven experiement that throwing big money at transfers and wages for "names" does nothing. It's looks to me like they are very willing to back Pearson, but everyone accepts a new model is needed as you cannot keep going on as we were. Chill. Cheers for clearing that up!
Babylon Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 But will Pearson be here in the summer? he has said on a number of occasions he knows what his remit is. That sounds to me like promotion this season. I just hope I'm wrong. You are wrong. Again dig out his recent interview where he repeats that he has spoken to the owners and it's a long term project.
MrSpaM Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 It's because Pearson actually knows what he's doing in this league, and isnt signing a whole bunch of players with over inflated prices just because they've been named in a world cup squad once or twice
THEFATBASTARD Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Neither . Pearson just wants to recruit the RIGHT players . we have just spent a million on drinkwater, brought a premiership striker on loan, that won't be cheap, your right though..the owners have turned the tap off.
Captain... Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Maybe Pearson has sat down with them and said to strengthen the squad to make a title push this season I need these players in these positions and it will probably cost this much, and there is no guarantee of success, or I can bring in my players that I think will develop and thrive over the season to mount a title push next season for a fraction of the cost and a greater chance of success, and I will cut the wage bill in the process. January is a shit time to buy players, and the loan experiment of last season failed, arguably Sven failed because he wasn't able to stand up to the owners and say let me build a team over time and we will get success, instead Sven gambled everything trying to satisfy the unrealistic, but understandable, expectations of the owners and now we are no better off. We had the money to buy Sharp and we made a serious bid for Stuart, so the cash is there, but we are not going to throw it away. The worry now is injuries, but that is where the loan market can be used correctly, and not abused to have an entire back four on loan.
wellyfox Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Wtf? I said in my post I think it's the right way of doing things. But with the owners not being seen or heard of for ages I have a few doubts. Or praps it's just a case of they went home for their new year. And on arrival at the airport Top said to his dad whats that king power place dad? Son that's our business the family one that made it possible for you to buy LCFC. Or praps after spending all the money they have they just thought ohhhhhhh fvck it we are bored with LCFC now we'll just stay here and forget about it.
jimmer Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 I'm pretty shure the owners have realised the error in their ways, of being too public about how much money is available to spend. We have been held to ransom because of this. I like the way Pearson does business and i'm sure he has spoken to Top about being so public and piling on unwanted pressure. Pearson is building a TEAM capable of promtion without being held to ransom, if we sneak it this year then great, if not we'll be in a great position for next season
General Smuts Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Circumstances have changed because Abe wanted to go home, King got injured, so did Schlupp and Gallagher. Areas we had plenty of bodies for before have now become weak points, which means they also need looking at. We have bid good money for Sharp and Stewart. Money is there, but Pearson wants the right people. If they aren't willing to join or the clubs aren't willing to sell there isn't much you can do. The owners have probably realsied after the Sven experiement that throwing big money at transfers and wages for "names" does nothing. It's looks to me like they are very willing to back Pearson, but everyone accepts a new model is needed as you cannot keep going on as we were. Chill. Stop being so 'rational' and 'right' all the time you boring fecker!
cc_star Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Can't believe you think signing a crap load of players in January is the right way to do things Q. What happened when all the loans left that joined last January? A. We had to sign a whole new team in the summer, which was arguably the undoing of the whole season. Perhaps if we'd signed 2 or 3 key players in that January it wouldn't have led to such wholesale changes in the summer when we could have signed a further 3 or 4 and actually built a team capable of winning the league rather than trying to buy the league! January is a time for tweaking, a mass influx of players is the absolute last thing needed, it won't just upset the apple cart, but probably destroy it. When we sign players they need to be better than those already here, this means they'll more than likely be involved in first team football therefore their clubs will need to replace them before letting them go. We've bid for Sharp & Stewart, Doncaster had to accept our offer as it's in Sharp's contract, it doesn't look like Sharp wants to join us he probably fancies saving Donny from relegation and moving in the summer. With regards to Stewart, there appears to be very bad blood between our club & Hull and I don't think they'll ever sell to us whilst the current people are in charge at both clubs. IMO we've got the players on the books to win the league, but it's taken until 17th January Forest game to get them playing as a team, Drinkwater will strengthen the midfield, the Fonz will provide cover whilst Schlupp is injured... Signing 6 or 7 players as you seem to be suggesting will mean we're back to square one trying to gel a team but without the benefit of pre-season to help us do so.
Babylon Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 Stop being so 'rational' and 'right' all the time you boring fecker! Sorry
jonlcfc1990 Posted 25 January 2012 Posted 25 January 2012 £20 million for stewart would you pay it? NO £2 million for morgan would you pay it? NO Billy Sharp turned down we did all we could Kebe new contract on big money thanks to the new russian owners (which i predicted ) How much for Vardy? Remember a very low league player? And all the others are undisclosed Just because we're quiet there is no need to panic if we would of had pearson in the summer we would of had a stronger team and would of been a lot higher up the table. End of
chili_con_carne Posted 25 January 2012 Author Posted 25 January 2012 Can't believe you think signing a crap load of players in January is the right way to do things Q. What happened when all the loans left that joined last January? A. We had to sign a whole new team in the summer, which was arguably the undoing of the whole season. Perhaps if we'd signed 2 or 3 key players in that January it wouldn't have led to such wholesale changes in the summer when we could have signed a further 3 or 4 and actually built a team capable of winning the league rather than trying to buy the league! January is a time for tweaking, a mass influx of players is the absolute last thing needed, it won't just upset the apple cart, but probably destroy it. When we sign players they need to be better than those already here, this means they'll more than likely be involved in first team football therefore their clubs will need to replace them before letting them go. We've bid for Sharp & Stewart, Doncaster had to accept our offer as it's in Sharp's contract, it doesn't look like Sharp wants to join us he probably fancies saving Donny from relegation and moving in the summer. With regards to Stewart, there appears to be very bad blood between our club & Hull and I don't think they'll ever sell to us whilst the current people are in charge at both clubs. IMO we've got the players on the books to win the league, but it's taken until 17th January Forest game to get them playing as a team, Drinkwater will strengthen the midfield, the Fonz will provide cover whilst Schlupp is injured... Signing 6 or 7 players as you seem to be suggesting will mean we're back to square one trying to gel a team but without the benefit of pre-season to help us do so. When did I say it's the right way of doing things. Delete this thread as no one seems capable of being able to read.
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