Reynard Bleu Posted 8 February 2013 Author Posted 8 February 2013 A professional soldier would be killing whoever he was "told" to kill whether they were enemy or not and whether they were "combatants" or not. . No they would not. You made that up.
Guest Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 So you're saying that a "professional" soldier wouldn't kill whoever they were commanded to kill. If that's the case then it seems the soldier should take responsibility for any and every death and be charged with murder for any civilian killed. And the idea of soldiers killing "enemies" is laughable. Those Iraqis weren't "enemies" to Britain. They were soldiers fighting to protect "their" country. it's just a matter of viewpoint.
Leicester Piggott Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 So you're saying that a "professional" soldier wouldn't kill whoever they were commanded to kill. If that's the case then it seems the soldier should take responsibility for any and every death and be charged with murder for any civilian killed. And the idea of soldiers killing "enemies" is laughable. Those Iraqis weren't "enemies" to Britain. They were soldiers fighting to protect "their" country. it's just a matter of viewpoint. Has this subjectivity only just dawned on you?
Guest Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 Has this subjectivity only just dawned on you? Shut Up WUM! You are a pathetic excuse of a human beng who should be shot by a professional killer soldier.
Leicester Piggott Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 Shut Up WUM! You are a pathetic excuse of a human beng who should be shot by a professional killer soldier. Take a look at your keyboard (psssst, the long thin thing down there on the desk!) - next to the 'U' key.... no, no, the other side! Yep, there she is, the 'i' key. Treat her well and she'll reward you with the ability to spell words correctly.
Guest Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 Take a look at your keyboard (psssst, the long thin thing down there on the desk!) - next to the 'U' key.... no, no, the other side! Yep, there she is, the 'i' key. Treat her well and she'll reward you with the ability to spell words correctly. That was a poor comeback. I expected much better. especially after I'd exhibited my leadership skills so well.
Reynard Bleu Posted 8 February 2013 Author Posted 8 February 2013 So you're saying that a "professional" soldier wouldn't kill whoever they were commanded to kill. If that's the case then it seems the soldier should take responsibility for any and every death and be charged with murder for any civilian killed. And the idea of soldiers killing "enemies" is laughable. Those Iraqis weren't "enemies" to Britain. They were soldiers fighting to protect "their" country. it's just a matter of viewpoint. It might be your viewpoint, But we have already established that you know sod all about war fighting and I can assure you, killing 'enemies is anything but laughable.
Leicester Piggott Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 That was a poor comeback. I expected much better. especially after I'd exhibited my leadership skills so well. When I need the praise or approval of an idiot, I'll call Lamby. Thanks though.
Guest Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 It might be your viewpoint, But we have already established that you know sod all about war fighting and I can assure you, killing 'enemies is anything but laughable. Your enemies are all in your head RB. You are simply a paid, brainwashed fool who killed other human beings because of someone else's agenda. You didn't defend your country and your family through this action. Try to fool yourself, but don't try to fool me. When I need the praise or approval of an idiot, I'll call Lamby. Thanks though. Of course
Rincewind Posted 8 February 2013 Posted 8 February 2013 One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Reynard Bleu Posted 11 February 2013 Author Posted 11 February 2013 Your enemies are all in your head RB. You are simply a paid, brainwashed fool who killed other human beings because of someone else's agenda. You didn't defend your country and your family through this action. Try to fool yourself, but don't try to fool me. Don't call me a fool you nthing about me or why I have done what I have done. Name calling really weakens any argument you may have. I can see why you live in France.
Guest Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 Don't call me a fool you nthing about me or why I have done what I have done. Name calling really weakens any argument you may have. I can see why you live in France.
Carl the Llama Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 Don't call me a fool you nthing about me or why I have done what I have done. Name calling really weakens any argument you may have. I can see why you live in France. Is it... the food? The blatant disdain for vegetarianism? The women? Ooh I know - It's the chance to play a game of petanque on a lazy summer's evening isn't it? Tell me I'm right, I know I am.
MooseBreath Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 Is it... the food? The blatant disdain for vegetarianism? The women? Ooh I know - It's the chance to play a game of petanque on a lazy summer's evening isn't it? Tell me I'm right, I know I am. In Fif's case it is not so fancy, he lives there because the language and cultural barriers provide convenient self and external justification for the fact that he has no friends. Back home in the UK he would always cry at night, "i'm so lonely, why doesn't anybody like me", whereas in France he can just blame the language barrier and get back to sticking bananas up his arse.
Guest Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 In Fif's case it is not so fancy, he lives there because the language and cultural barriers provide convenient self and external justification for the fact that he has no friends. Back home in the UK he would always cry at night, "i'm so lonely, why doesn't anybody like me", whereas in France he can just blame the language barrier and get back to sticking bananas up his arse. Quiet day at the Drive thru?
The Doctor Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 If only I was a mod, I'd edit all of moosebreaths posts to this:
sphericalfox Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 In Fif's case it is not so fancy, he lives there because the language and cultural barriers provide convenient self and external justification for the fact that he has no friends. Back home in the UK he would always cry at night, "i'm so lonely, why doesn't anybody like me", whereas in France he can just blame the language barrier and get back to sticking bananas up his arse. By and far the most ironic statements made yet on Foxestalk. How there isn't an irony earthquake somewhere on the other side of the planet I don't know.
Thracian Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 I think you have to be at least a little mentally on edge to take up a career like that. I can't really comment on whether what he did was right or wrong, because I don't know whether the people he killed deserved it. I hope they did, but you can never be sure. If by killing 250 scumbags he saved thousands of innocent lives, then personally I would have no complaints, but morally it's a very debatable subject. Either way, it's a shame to survive the war and then to go out like this. Perhaps the last thing a sniper would need is to be is mentally on edge. Alert, yes, but not on edge. You'd also need to be cold, calm, sensitive, an eagle-eyed observer and meticulously calculating among countless other things. Whatever the morals of it, being an accomplished sniper is an art form applied by an extremely disciplined and highly skilled specialist. I've known two snipers - one of whom I'd call a friend. Both were leading exponents of their trade - and neither seemed the least bit psychopathic or ill-adjusted. Quite the contrary. One is now a counsellor to wounded servicemen. I don't think whether the "targets" deserved to be killed ever came into it. Does a cow deserve to be slaughtered for Sunday lunch, or does a child deserve to sicken and die from cancer? Life's never been remotely fair and sniper's simply do the task they're allotted and trained for to the best of their ability. And, in war, death by a sniper's bullet would normally be infinitely preferable to most other kinds. Of course sniper's are conditioned to their task, just as Ultra was conditioned by growing up with socialist parents. Conditioning is apparent in so many avenues of life, and more especially in recent years when politicians have sought to condition our thinking on race, religion, hunting, smacking children, drinking, smoking and most every other thing whether they're right or not. It's a wonder anyone has any personal opinions left. So who's really the wacko? The silent killer conditioned to rationalise his job? Or a shifty Labour prime minister convinced that he is more right than everyone else and getting countless thousands killed in demonstrating his good Christian wisdom? .
MooseBreath Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 By and far the most ironic statements made yet on Foxestalk. How there isn't an irony earthquake somewhere on the other side of the planet I don't know. Probably because irony doesn't cause earthquakes. I would say that's by and far the most likely explanation.
The Doctor Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 Probably because irony doesn't cause earthquakes. I would say that's by and far the most likely explanation. Prove it. Not with that whole science pizzazz, El Empty says it's an agenda so can't be trusted.
FoxyPV Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 Perhaps the last thing a sniper would need is to be is mentally on edge. Alert, yes, but not on edge. You'd also need to be cold, calm, sensitive, an eagle-eyed observer and meticulously calculating among countless other things. Whatever the morals of it, being an accomplished sniper is an art form applied by an extremely disciplined and highly skilled specialist. I've known two snipers - one of whom I'd call a friend. Both were leading exponents of their trade - and neither seemed the least bit psychopathic or ill-adjusted. Quite the contrary. One is now a counsellor to wounded servicemen. I don't think whether the "targets" deserved to be killed ever came into it. Does a cow deserve to be slaughtered for Sunday lunch, or does a child deserve to sicken and die from cancer? Life's never been remotely fair and sniper's simply do the task they're allotted and trained for to the best of their ability. And, in war, death by a sniper's bullet would normally be infinitely preferable to most other kinds. Of course sniper's are conditioned to their task, just as Ultra was conditioned by growing up with socialist parents. Conditioning is apparent in so many avenues of life, and more especially in recent years when politicians have sought to condition our thinking on race, religion, hunting, smacking children, drinking, smoking and most every other thing whether they're right or not. It's a wonder anyone has any personal opinions left. So who's really the wacko? The silent killer conditioned to rationalise his job? Or a shifty Labour prime minister convinced that he is more right than everyone else and getting countless thousands killed in demonstrating his good Christian wisdom? . That's not fair on Ultra's parents. They could have never forseen what a **** up he would become.
sphericalfox Posted 11 February 2013 Posted 11 February 2013 Probably because irony doesn't cause earthquakes. I would say that's by and far the most likely explanation. Think I just felt a tremor... Funny that you chose to respond to the ridiculous aspect of my post and chose to ignore the other half.
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