Reynard Bleu Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21313208 Not sure what I think about this. Professionally, he was a master of his trade, but for an individual to slot 255 targets is frightenening. I know in hotspots in Iraq the yanks were involved in some of the heaviest and bloodiest close order fighting since Vietnam, but even so his tally is quite mind boggling.
The Guvnor Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 Bet he couldn't knock the sweets off the shelves at the funfair, with an air rifle and cork!
flowwolf Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 How ironic he kills all those people only to get done his self in America the home of guns and murders. No loss to humanity to be fair.
Jon the Hat Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 What a complete psychopath. Maybe, or maybe just conditioned along with the rest of his army buddies to see the enemy as something inhuman.
Rincewind Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 Probably played so many video shoot-'n'-kill games that he lost all sense of reality.
Webbo Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 He probably killed less people in his career than a WW2 bomber pilot killed in one mission. War involves killing people, that's how it is.
Finnegan Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 Probably played so many video shoot-'n'-kill games as a teenager that he lost all sense of reality. He was near as makes no difference 40. What do you think he was playing as a teenager?
Rincewind Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 He was near as makes no difference 40. What do you think he was playing as a teenager? Teenager plus. I added teenager afterwards. I don't play them so do not know when men stop playing those games. Bet his tally was not as high as James Bond in a five minute opening film sequence.
Finnegan Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 Teenager plus. I added teenager afterwards. I don't play them so do not know when men stop playing those games. Bet his tally was not as high as James Bond in a five minute opening film sequence. I dare say a career of ACTUALLY shooting people in the head hundreds of times desensitized him more than a few rounds of Call of Duty. Come back to the real world, Ken.
Rincewind Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 I would agree in the majority of people but there will be some that could be attracted and maybe conditioned by games if overplayed. A small %
Finnegan Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 Sometimes I really don't have a clue what planet you're living on.
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 Ummmm... I've been playing violent games since I can remember, I won't even kill a wasp This was his career, he was not some nutter who went around shooting people at will. He is given targets, he takes them out. If not him then the task is given to someone else An ironic death I suppose, but I wouldn't call this a case of "what goes around comes around". RIP
MC Prussian Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 No matter what you can say about the Army brainwashing their personnel in order to go to war, everybody who joins them does so on a voluntary basis (at least in the US). And the military does attract some of the biggest bloodthirsty psychos you can imagine. Psychologic assessments can/could help, but when you look at the sheer number of army members, completing a thorough examination is but wishful thinking.
MooseBreath Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 I wouldn't call him a psychopath at all. Just doing his job.
Parafox Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 How ironic he kills all those people only to get done his self in America the home of guns and murders. No loss to humanity to be fair. Killing the enemy was what he was paid to do as a soldier. It's not as if he was a gun toting lunatic. He had selected targets and he did what he was expected to do. How can you say he's no loss to humanity? Did you know him? Do you know his family? No, I thought not.
Reynard Bleu Posted 4 February 2013 Author Posted 4 February 2013 No matter what you can say about the Army brainwashing their personnel in order to go to war, everybody who joins them does so on a voluntary basis (at least in the US). And the military does attract some of the biggest bloodthirsty psychos you can imagine. Psychologic assessments can/could help, but when you look at the sheer number of army members, completing a thorough examination is but wishful thinking. You are right, the military does attract some nutters, they do try and spot them in selection, but some get through. A bigger worry to me are the ones who leave the military with severe mental problems and for whatever reason are not being picked up by the system we are told is in place to deal with PTSD cases.
Reynard Bleu Posted 4 February 2013 Author Posted 4 February 2013 I wouldn't call him a psychopath at all. Just doing his job. This is true also, its what he trained for and what he was paid for. Its just to most soldiers a kill total like that is unthinkable, you can't help but think it must have had some effect on his mind despite his statmentsto the contrary.
glenny_fox Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 Why is he a psychopath for doing his job? Does that mean people like prince harry are psychopaths as they have killed people in a war?
Guest Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 I would have thought the first kill would affect anyone (well almost) but do you really think a 33rd kill has any more effect than a 210th kill?
Jon the Hat Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 This is true also, its what he trained for and what he was paid for. Its just to most soldiers a kill total like that is unthinkable, you can't help but think it must have had some effect on his mind despite his statmentsto the contrary. I dont think the total is the issue as such. Someone on a missile battery or in a bomber could kill more than that in one day. This difference is it is somehow personal to put the enemy in your sights when they don't know you are there are calmly pull the trigger.
Rincewind Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 Sometimes I really don't have a clue what planet you're living on. Sometimes I really don't have a clue what planet you're living on. I never said all. The majority of people that play the games have seperate lives away from gaming. Wives family jobs etc. There are some loners that spend day and night playing them and have an obsession with them. Are you saying this would not have an affect on their mind? My OP was not meant to be taken literally.
Guest Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 And to bring up video games is so "old generation". No link whatsoever. People may be inclined to violence but playing video games doesn't change that.
Guest Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 I never said all. The majority of people that play the games have seperate lives away from gaming. Wives family jobs etc. There are some loners that spend day and night playing them and have an obsession with them. Are you saying this would not have an affect on their mind? My OP was not meant to be taken literally. Try looking at it from another angle, Ken. It's not the game that changes the person, maybe this type of person (which is a very minute percentage I'm sure) are attracted to the games. As are millions of people without a psychological problem and some of them have an "obsession" with these games but that doesn't cause them to go and kill people in real life.
Rincewind Posted 4 February 2013 Posted 4 February 2013 Anyway it takes a certain kind of person to calmly shoot people as if they were insignificant. Not sure that I could do it. ?If they can do that can they turn off when they return home? What if somebody upsets them so much or does something they disagree with?
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