Allowed to boo.

[Strawberry Sebastian]

youre allowed to boo but why bother just makes the lads upset and they think why should i bother. need to get behind them help them out of this rut. Everyone i want to see everyone cheering loud as can be at next game no more of this negativity the boys out there on the pitch need us need our support come on lets do this

[ian1984summer]

I admit the St Ledger argument is a bit pathetic! But to be honest, for a PROFESSIONAL footballer, even one foul throw-in for a player on ££££££ a week is unacceptable to me. It just begs that question I ask, what DO they do all week? It's a bit like that question of how come players, often, don't get a cross past the first man? Unacceptable when it is their job.

But yeah, the St Ledger argument is poor but I meant it in a general way, for example, they practice shooting but smash it over all game long, I'm sure if you had a record on one in 20 monoblocks passing the test then you would be in trouble. See what I mean?

i do see where you are coming from but i feel you are saying that someone who earns good money shuld do their job perfectly? doctors earn good money but will occasionally miss a symptom or diagnose wrongly. a golfer will slice a shot now and again, michael jordon didn't hit EVERY free throw. as will a waitress on minimum wage get an order wrong. everyone from every walk of life makes mistakes and thats how things are.

yes they practice shooting on a training ground but it's a hell of a lot more difficult with 11 opposing players trying to put you off.

i do see your point and agree that most of our players should be performing to a better standard but we have to also accept they are humans who make mistakes. the players themselves have not turned football into this ridiculous financial game and if another company offered me more money to do what i do i would be off because i want to earn as much money as i can, same as everyone else out there.

[leicesterisme]

Of course your allowed to boo but I can't understand for the life of me why you would want to.

What does it acheive?

It dosen't help anybody really, the players will know when they've played shit, it's pointless.

[shade]

i do see where you are coming from but i feel you are saying that someone who earns good money shuld do their job perfectly? doctors earn good money but will occasionally miss a symptom or diagnose wrongly. a golfer will slice a shot now and again, michael jordon didn't hit EVERY free throw. as will a waitress on minimum wage get an order wrong. everyone from every walk of life makes mistakes and thats how things are.

yes they practice shooting on a training ground but it's a hell of a lot more difficult with 11 opposing players trying to put you off.

i do see your point and agree that most of our players should be performing to a better standard but we have to also accept they are humans who make mistakes. the players themselves have not turned football into this ridiculous financial game and if another company offered me more money to do what i do i would be off because i want to earn as much money as i can, same as everyone else out there.

yeah, but the think I find odd, is just how many basic mistakes professional footballers make. I appreciate that it's a physical skill so it's more unpredictable than say, computer programming, but how many stray short passes, overshot long balls, crap crosses and failed blocks do they make?

[fleckneymike]

If we just think for a second about what the 'non booing' brigade are advocating it's quite a worrying concept. Forced positivity in the face of mediocrity (or worse). A 'correct' way of supporting.

Freedom is slavery.

[C-man]

If we just think for a second about what the 'non booing' brigade are advocating it's quite a worrying concept. Forced positivity in the face of mediocrity (or worse). A 'correct' way of supporting.

Freedom is slavery.

Come off it. Not sure how people suggesting that others shouldn't boo is forcing positivity. Would silence as they trudge off not do? No-one is asking anybody to clap shit.

People have every right to be disenchanted with a performance but what really fvcks me off is people's expectations that they must be entertained for 90 minutes. So what if it's 0-0 at HT, there are still 45 minutes to win the game and yet some turds think it's acceptable to jeer their lads off. Weird. What's even more embarrassing is that people can forget 89 minutes of utter tripe, during which they do nothing to help the team by booing every misplaced pass, as long as the saviour Waghorn bundles one in with his cock to pick up 3 points against Birmingham, for example. They'd be the first to pitchside to clap their 'heroes' off.

Fair enough, you've paid £32 or whatever. But that's the risk you take. Pitches are bobbly, refs are garbage, the luck sides with the opposition. Our lads are pretty young, fairly inexperienced with little-to-no strength in depth as a result of mindless spending by the former regime. They are evidently tired and running out of steam badly. Booing at this stage of the season, when we sit 6th, is not going to help. They need every last person in blue and white supporting them.

EDIT: Oh, and another thing: why is it always those who are mute for 90 minutes who are the first to lead the booing at HT and FT? Such a strange way to spend a Saturday (Friday). I really don't understand why people spend money to act so miserably and quite frankly piss others off.

I think less people would be bothered about booing if those that did actually made an attempt to support the team at times. Alas not.

[hifi]

Cheers, to be honest it is completely born out of frustration and I felt guilty about doing it ten minutes later when I realised that "at the end of the day it's just a game"! Although one of my best mates is a Derby fan so I was desperate to keep beating them yesterday, suppose its nice he has one over on me for a change...

The problem is with booing is that if we had won the game you would of looked a bit daft cheering them and jumping about singing and the like.

I have seen this before where some fans were booing and we ended up winning 3-2. A few yrs ago granted but it did make me smile.

[Leicester_Numan]

Come off it. Not sure how people suggesting that others shouldn't boo is forcing positivity. Would silence as they trudge off not do? No-one is asking anybody to clap shit.

People have every right to be disenchanted with a performance but what really fvcks me off is people's expectations that they must be entertained for 90 minutes. So what if it's 0-0 at HT, there are still 45 minutes to win the game and yet some turds think it's acceptable to jeer their lads off. Weird. What's even more embarrassing is that people can forget 89 minutes of utter tripe, during which they do nothing to help the team by booing every misplaced pass, as long as the saviour Waghorn bundles one in with his cock to pick up 3 points against Birmingham, for example. They'd be the first to pitchside to clap their 'heroes' off.

Fair enough, you've paid £32 or whatever. But that's the risk you take. Pitches are bobbly, refs are garbage, the luck sides with the opposition. Our lads are pretty young, fairly inexperienced with little-to-no strength in depth as a result of mindless spending by the former regime. They are evidently tired and running out of steam badly. Booing at this stage of the season, when we sit 6th, is not going to help. They need every last person in blue and white supporting them.

EDIT: Oh, and another thing: why is it always those who are mute for 90 minutes who are the first to lead the booing at HT and FT? Such a strange way to spend a Saturday (Friday). I really don't understand why people spend money to act so miserably and quite frankly piss others off.

I think less people would be bothered about booing if those that did actually made an attempt to support the team at times. Alas not.

My feelings exactly.

I've never booed, if I don't think we've played well I just stay silent or politely applaud for a few seconds, silence serves just as well as booing but is not as damaging to team confidence.

I watched the Derby game at my mates house where I sat mainly silent, punctuated with the odd come on, oh for...I couldn't swear because of his kids .

If we'd played with anything like the passion of Derby, we'd have won that game easily.

The teams confidence looks shot so I think NP would be better served trying to get us to play with a bit of fire and aggression instead of trying to rebuild confidence. That will come on it's own when we start to win again

[AyewJoking]

Its not OK to boo. There are starving children in Africa who would give anything to watch Leicester.

[volpeazzurro]

I admit the St Ledger argument is a bit pathetic! But to be honest, for a PROFESSIONAL footballer, even one foul throw-in for a player on ££££££ a week is unacceptable to me. It just begs that question I ask, what DO they do all week? It's a bit like that question of how come players, often, don't get a cross past the first man? Unacceptable when it is their job.

But yeah, the St Ledger argument is poor but I meant it in a general way, for example, they practice shooting but smash it over all game long, I'm sure if you had a record on one in 20 monoblocks passing the test then you would be in trouble. See what I mean?

Whilst this may not have been perhaps the best of examples, I do think the poster raises a salient issue.

Some years ago I watched an interview with George Best on TV. He claimed that whilst there may well be something called natural talent, many players today, in his opinion, were lazy considering the huge wages they were on. Many people he said for example had thought for example that B

[MC Prussian]

Of course you're allowed to boo. If you feel so enraged by bad performances on the pitch, do as you please.

I just think there's better options for venting your anger because of a simple game of football.

Personally, I very rarely boo. I don't see the point in it at all.

[volpeazzurro]

i do see where you are coming from but i feel you are saying that someone who earns good money shuld do their job perfectly? doctors earn good money but will occasionally miss a symptom or diagnose wrongly. a golfer will slice a shot now and again, michael jordon didn't hit EVERY free throw. as will a waitress on minimum wage get an order wrong. everyone from every walk of life makes mistakes and thats how things are.

yes they practice shooting on a training ground but it's a hell of a lot more difficult with 11 opposing players trying to put you off.

i do see your point and agree that most of our players should be performing to a better standard but we have to also accept they are humans who make mistakes. the players themselves have not turned football into this ridiculous financial game and if another company offered me more money to do what i do i would be off because i want to earn as much money as i can, same as everyone else out there.

If you see part of this above SORRY, caught my finger on the wrong key, it's an age thing!

Whilst this may not have been perhaps the best of examples, I do think the poster raises a salient issue.

Some years ago I watched an interview with George Best on TV. He claimed that whilst there may well be something called natural talent, many players today, in his opinion, were lazy considering the huge wages they were on. Many people he said for example had thought that Bobby Charlton was left footed, not so he claimed, it's just that he and Bobby you to train regularly together for a couple of hours after main training had finished just using their weaker foot. Neither was it natural talent or fluke that Beckhams free kicks and passing wre so acurate, it was all down to extra practice. Kevin Keegan may be an example of a player that wasn't the most naturally talented but boy did he make the best of himself.

So what about our players? Is it acceptable when we see the debacle of corners persistently failing to get past the first man on the post? Robbie Savage in interview stated that at most clubs players only train for little more than an hour a day, personally I have no idea if thats true, but if so, is it enough for the money they're on?

Whilst there are of course issues of fitness and fatigue, don't other dedicated sportsman like tennis players and Olympians manage it? For me, whilst there may be the odd blooper, surely in the main, we should reasoably expect corners to be bread and butter stuff. George Best went on to say that in his opinion, that if any player ,albeit that he can't be perfectly two footed, is unable to make simple passes with his weaker foot, then that is down to individual lazyness and lack of practice. Even at Championship level our players and other clubs players are on huge money but do they put enough work in? If not, is it not down to the management team to to make them do it and hone their individual skills?

For me these days we are paying huge money for mediocrity.

[filbertsdad]

I don't very often post on here, but this thread compelled me to put finger to keyboard....

If a player expects (and gets!) cheers and adulation when he scores a great goal or makes a fantastic block, then the opposite is true as well. If there's a performance I perceive as under-par, I'll boo unreservedly.

Look at it this way - if you pay for a workman to do some work around your house and he ****s it up, you'll complain and b*llock him like crazy. Football these days is now much more of a commercial transaction than ever before - you pay your money, and you expect end-product (not necessarily a win, but at the very least an honest attempt at getting there). If you don't get it, you're entitled to complain.

This blind loyalty of "Get behind the lads!" and the whole "Together!" thing is - quite frankly - b*llocks! I'd much much much prefer to sit next to a educated football fan making honest and fair criticism of the team that some idiot desperatly trying to start a chant of "Sing your hearts out" even though the team quite obviously couldn't give a sh*t at that point.

With that, I'll fade back to lurking....

[Churchill]

I don't boo but i would not tell someone not to boo, however i did give a few a lads a grilling for trying to start numerous 'Pearson sort it out' or 'Pearson out' chants as what good will that do?

[NottsFox]

The problem is with booing is that if we had won the game you would of looked a bit daft cheering them and jumping about singing and the like.

I have seen this before where some fans were booing and we ended up winning 3-2. A few yrs ago granted but it did make me smile.

Haha I agree with that. But I think this goes back to the idea of football fans being fickle. For example, on sat at derby if we won the game 3-2 and played brilliant in the second half then of course I would have been singing and dancing and gave them a standing ovation for their efforts and would look like a **** to a lot of people. But, unfortunately, I think that is how football is and will be. If you aren't fickle then you aren't really following the game logically. Like if Nugent scored 10 in 10 then 0 in 30 then I would have first said he was awesome, but then said he was awful. It's how the game goes and there's nothing wrong with it. I hate it when people call others 'fickle' because you have to be in the business!

[NottsFox]

Its not OK to boo. There are starving children in Africa who would give anything to watch Leicester.

Is that supposed to be a joke? Comparing the two is ridiculous. People in Africa are suffering hugely and leicester loosing to derby is not even comparable on the same level, but why even bring it up?!

[halferowley2]

Think of it as panto then you can cheer and boo as much as you like. Refs get booed opposition get booed so all the baddies get booed and the goodies ie LCFC always get cheered no matter how bad they play - am I right?

[C-man]

I don't very often post on here, but this thread compelled me to put finger to keyboard....

If a player expects (and gets!) cheers and adulation when he scores a great goal or makes a fantastic block, then the opposite is true as well. If there's a performance I perceive as under-par, I'll boo unreservedly.

Look at it this way - if you pay for a workman to do some work around your house and he ****s it up, you'll complain and b*llock him like crazy. Football these days is now much more of a commercial transaction than ever before - you pay your money, and you expect end-product (not necessarily a win, but at the very least an honest attempt at getting there). If you don't get it, you're entitled to complain.

This blind loyalty of "Get behind the lads!" and the whole "Together!" thing is - quite frankly - b*llocks! I'd much much much prefer to sit next to a educated football fan making honest and fair criticism of the team that some idiot desperatly trying to start a chant of "Sing your hearts out" even though the team quite obviously couldn't give a sh*t at that point.

With that, I'll fade back to lurking....

Strange POV to think that a player expects to be cheered for scoring a goal, making a block etc. Surely you should want to celebrate the fact that the team that you support has done something positive?

As for the incredibly pointless analogy regarding the workman, it just baffles me that people actually compare a sport with a trade. Yes, a bricklayer who cements your wall with dogshit deserves a volley of abuse but please name me one trade that has to deal with so many external influences as a professional sportsman.

Don't give me the 'they're not trying' piece either because the vast majority of footballers do not make it as a pro unless they have an intense hatred of losing. The majority of our team are ex-Manchester United for **** sake.

What footballer, after the odd defeat in the midst of a successful season, having heard a chorus of boos sits back in the changing room thinking: 'fvck, I didn't like those nasty fans booing me, better play better next time' rather than 'the ungrateful cvnts we're still having a good season, where's their support when we need them most?!'

We know football fans don't like the fickle nature of fans - you only have to look at some of Konchesky's tweets or Rooney at WC2010.

This is an entirely messed up sport if people feel they deserve compensating for their support.

Apologies for swearing but this subject does my head in and is one of a growing number that makes me ashamed to support Leicester.

[filbertsdad]

Not sure what point you're trying to make in your first paragraph, but with regards the rest...

Football these days is (sadly) more of an entertainment business that the sport I grew up with. As entertainers, musicians playing out of tune would be boo'd off, as would unfunny comediens, actors forgetting their lines and so on. We - as an audience - don't have much recourse to express disappointment when players put in a rubbish performance. (Sidenote: Generally, when I'm booing, I do so against a team performance, and not an individual). A one-off, and I wouldn't bother. When it's the fifth, sixth, etc. rubbish performance in a row, then oh yes!

The fact that many came through the ranks of Manchester United is completely immaterial. Why should that make them try harder???

Does crowd negativity affect players performance? Whose to say that the opposite is true? That clapping the players off makes them think in the dressing room "Gosh, those lovely chaps in the crowd clapped me off even after that below-par performance! I must try harder next time to thank them". My point is as daft as yours!

The bottom line is that if you're ashamed to support Leicester because you don't like other supporters showing passion about their club - either positive OR negative - then you're probably at the wrong ground.

[NottsFox]

I know this isn't really anywhere near the same scale as playing for LCFC but I thought I would say it anyway!...

When I play for my local team, and mess something up and get cought on the ball, I here discontent and people shouting "Oh for **** sake" at me. Do this effect me? NO! I get on with the game and keep on trying for my team, we all make mistakes. But for a player to play bad because of boos and then loose desire and make minimal effort? That is ridiculous. If that is the case for a player then it just unacceptable and they are clearly in the wrong business.

Like they say, "When you cross the white line, nothing else matters". They should not be thinking about a few thousand leicester fans in the corner, they should be thinking about winning the game in front of them.

[C-man]

Not sure what point you're trying to make in your first paragraph, but with regards the rest...

Football these days is (sadly) more of an entertainment business that the sport I grew up with. As entertainers, musicians playing out of tune would be boo'd off, as would unfunny comediens, actors forgetting their lines and so on. We - as an audience - don't have much recourse to express disappointment when players put in a rubbish performance. (Sidenote: Generally, when I'm booing, I do so against a team performance, and not an individual). A one-off, and I wouldn't bother. When it's the fifth, sixth, etc. rubbish performance in a row, then oh yes!

The fact that many came through the ranks of Manchester United is completely immaterial. Why should that make them try harder???

Does crowd negativity affect players performance? Whose to say that the opposite is true? That clapping the players off makes them think in the dressing room "Gosh, those lovely chaps in the crowd clapped me off even after that below-par performance! I must try harder next time to thank them". My point is as daft as yours!

The bottom line is that if you're ashamed to support Leicester because you don't like other supporters showing passion about their club - either positive OR negative - then you're probably at the wrong ground.

My point about Manchester United was that they have grown up at a club at which it is unacceptable to lose - something that will stay with them forever, as will their desire to reach the top (having tasted it) or at least give everything in every game. To suggest they aren't trying is ludicrous.

I didn't suggest in either of my two posts in here that we should clap poor performances. In fact in my first post I noted that there is nothing wrong with silence.

I will always clap (to different levels) when my team puts in 100%, which I believe is every game I have seen this season, with the possible exception of Burton in August which I believe to be the only time we've lost by more than one goal? Hardly the sign of a team that doesn't care. What do I know though? I clearly don't know what football is anymore.