Vale Blue Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 Apart from Cardiff and Hull every club in the Championship went on a bad run. Forest looked home and hosed for the play offs and only won 1 of their last 7, Watford looked different class at times and defo for automatic and had a bad run over the last 2 months, Palace did something similar. The list is endless, so was it NPs fault LCFC had a bad run or is it just one of those things with all Championship teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorlestonFox Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 Because we are Leicester City Football Club fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seenitall Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 Everyone else is rubbish so its OK for us to be........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManorFox Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 Apart from Cardiff and Hull every club in the Championship went on a bad run. Forest looked home and hosed for the play offs and only won 1 of their last 7, Watford looked different class at times and defo for automatic and had a bad run over the last 2 months, Palace did something similar. The list is endless, so was it NPs fault LCFC had a bad run or is it just one of those things with all Championship teams? So we just accept total mediocrity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vale Blue Posted 21 May 2013 Author Share Posted 21 May 2013 Obviously, I'm playing devils advocate to some degree but if a statistician with no bias looked at the Championship stats I would guess he would suggest that LCFCs results followed a familiar trend of good run, bad run. The length of each determines the league position. Opposition seems to not matter, our bad run was against some really poor teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danizen Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 The only collapse that was worse than ours was Boro's. Every other team was either already shit or made something of a recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManorFox Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 They could suggest the 2 good runs were more of an anomaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vale Blue Posted 21 May 2013 Author Share Posted 21 May 2013 The only collapse that was worse than ours was Boro's. Every other team was either already shit or made something of a recovery. Don't agree with you at all. I'll name you one far worse, Blackburn went from 3rd to 4th bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsherwood1 Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 Apart from Cardiff and Hull every club in the Championship went on a bad run. Forest looked home and hosed for the play offs and only won 1 of their last 7, Watford looked different class at times and defo for automatic and had a bad run over the last 2 months, Palace did something similar. The list is endless, so was it NPs fault LCFC had a bad run or is it just one of those things with all Championship teams? NP had more financial clout at Leicester We finished 6th, whatever the run. I also think you ignore how bad a run! You can't compare boro ( skint ) and you can't count Blackburn with the shambles they are! Bottom line is we underachieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC_Nige Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 Obviously, I'm playing devils advocate to some degree but if a statistician with no bias looked at the Championship stats I would guess he would suggest that LCFCs results followed a familiar trend of good run, bad run. The length of each determines the league position. Opposition seems to not matter, our bad run was against some really poor teams. Surely it's all about the extent of the bad run- length/ no of games without a win rather than just an unspecified downturn. Ours was massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vale Blue Posted 21 May 2013 Author Share Posted 21 May 2013 Surely it's all about the extent of the bad run- length/ no of games without a win rather than just an unspecified downturn. Ours was massive. I've said that myself earlier in the thread. "the extent of the good/bad run determines your league position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vale Blue Posted 21 May 2013 Author Share Posted 21 May 2013 NP had more financial clout at Leicester We finished 6th, whatever the run. I also think you ignore how bad a run! You can't compare boro ( skint ) and you can't count Blackburn with the shambles they are! Bottom line is we underachieved. You're making it up as you go along. Blackburn, Bolton and Wolves all had a collection of genuine Premier league players in their squads. We didn't over achieve like Palace or Charlton I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC_Nige Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 I've said that myself earlier in the thread. "the extent of the good/bad run determines your league position. Yes I realised that after I'd posted. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmilner Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 22 other teams dont fookin count ! stop lickin butt ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vale Blue Posted 21 May 2013 Author Share Posted 21 May 2013 22 other teams dont fookin count ! stop lickin butt ! Utter nonsense so beautifully articulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 If every other team had a bad run, how did they lose to each other? Logically they didn't. Unless they all drew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 Look, I am a massive NP fan but I'll say this constantly while this subject comes up; of course it was his 'fault'. He is the manager. The team is his responsibility, although he can't influence what happens on the pitch physically... He takes the credit when we sign a good player, and when we win, but he takes the criticism when we lose and when a transfer doesn't work out... Nige knows this as well, of course he does. Just like any other football manager. And just like any other manager in any organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 So we just accept total mediocrity? Look up the word "mediocre". NP had more financial clout at Leicester We finished 6th, whatever the run. I also think you ignore how bad a run! You can't compare boro ( skint ) and you can't count Blackburn with the shambles they are! Bottom line is we underachieved. Wolves. Bolton. Forest. Birmingham. All clubs that would have set their sights on finishing above us and didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted 21 May 2013 Share Posted 21 May 2013 The Championship was very strange this year. Leicester finished in the playoffs with a record low of 68 points, Wolves got 51 points, usually enough to stay up, and finished second bottom with poor old Peterborough relegated with 54 points ! Therefore points were more evenly spread than usual. The interesting question is why? Were the teams at the top not as good as usual, were the teams at the bottom better than usual? Is it random and never to be repeated? Answers on a postcard to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Churchill Posted 22 May 2013 Share Posted 22 May 2013 Palace had an awful run like us but they are in the final, does not mean they are sh*t they just hit a bad run of form like ourselves. We are not sh*t like some have said on here we just hit a bad patch like any team can we missed out on automatic yes but we will learn from that we have a very good young squad that can only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxblogger Posted 22 May 2013 Share Posted 22 May 2013 Championship sides sorted by their longest run without a league win in 2012/13. 12 games Huddersfield Town Wolverhampton Wanderers 11 games Barnsley Bristol City Ipswich Town 10 games Blackburn Rovers 9 games Crystal Palace Leicester City Sheffield Wednesday 8 games Derby County Peterborough United 7 games Brighton and Hove A Leeds United Middlesbrough 6 games Blackpool Burnley Charlton Athletic Millwall Nottingham Forest 4 games Birmingham City Bolton Wanderers Cardiff City Hull City Watford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 22 May 2013 Share Posted 22 May 2013 Championship sides sorted by their longest run without a league win in 2012/13. 12 games Huddersfield Town Wolverhampton Wanderers 11 games Barnsley Bristol City Ipswich Town 10 games Blackburn Rovers 9 games Crystal Palace Leicester City Sheffield Wednesday 8 games Derby County Peterborough United 7 games Brighton and Hove A Leeds United Middlesbrough 6 games Blackpool Burnley Charlton Athletic Millwall Nottingham Forest 4 games Birmingham City Bolton Wanderers Cardiff City Hull City Watford Not surprising that Cardiff and Hull went up then. Both with excellent managers IMO and CONSISTENCY of performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManorFox Posted 22 May 2013 Share Posted 22 May 2013 Look up the word "mediocre". Wolves. Bolton. Forest. Birmingham. All clubs that would have set their sights on finishing above us and didn't. Don't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indierich06 Posted 22 May 2013 Share Posted 22 May 2013 Not surprising that Cardiff and Hull went up then. Both with excellent managers IMO and CONSISTENCY of performance. I think that's the key - if you look at that list, three of the four sides in the playoffs went at least 7 games without a win. I don't subscribe to the opinion that Cardiff, Hull and Watford and significantly better sides than Leicester, Palace and Brighton, the former three have managed to grind out wins when they've needed them. How many times have we failed to do that this season, especially in the last third? Just 3 wins and 1 draw extra would have seen us promoted. Fine margins. Those draws against Birmingham and Brighton, and those few narrow losses in that poor run cost us dearly. The team will learn from this though, and hopefully come back stronger. With a few additions over the summer and a bit of consistency, I'd expect us to be doing a lot better next season, regardless of who is in charge. I think this is something that can be fixed and finding consistency will be the key to doing well next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwyne webster Posted 22 May 2013 Share Posted 22 May 2013 I dont think its the point, he was going to be the guy that would take us up, and as regarding other teams in the championship dont see many teams that had our class of player have r shit run like we did ,arnt we forgetting that we were favourites with the bookies to go up ,and ,just after christmas smickle said they didnt know how to lose ,PEARSONS FAULT..SORRRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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