indierich06 Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 I dont think its the point, he was going to be the guy that would take us up, and as regarding other teams in the championship dont see many teams that had our class of player have r shit run like we did ,arnt we forgetting that we were favourites with the bookies to go up ,and ,just after christmas smickle said they didnt know how to lose ,PEARSONS FAULT..SORRRY No-one's saying it's not Pearson's fault, what are you blithering on about? Most rational people can see that despite the fact we went on a poor run, we've still improved this season - finishing in the playoffs - and that continuity and consistency on and off the pitch is the best way to continue for now. I would be all for getting in a better manager, but I don't think that any of the options on the market now are significantly better to prompt a change in management. As for being bookies favourites to go up, well that means next to nothing and there have been plenty of teams in the Championship with sides as good, if not better, than ours who have struggled as well. Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves, Palace, Brighton... they've all gone on shit runs as well.
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 Don't need to. Clearly you do, 6 is not a median number of the range 1 - 24, or anywhere near.
Mack Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 Football is a squad game, and sadly Pearson outed players who had the capability to stop the rot. My opinion.
JohnnyB Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 Don't agree with you at all. I'll name you one far worse, Blackburn went from 3rd to 4th bottom And Millwall suffered a massive drop in form/league position after Christmas (they were 7th in the table on the 1st Jan) to avoid relegation by only 2 points on the last day.
ManorFox Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 Clearly you do, 6 is not a median number of the range 1 - 24, or anywhere near. Clearly I don't. Sixth in a league of very poor quality is mediocre and that is being generous.
MC Prussian Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 Clearly I don't. Sixth in a league of very poor quality is mediocre and that is being generous. ! The Championship is one of the toughest divisions to get out of (at least if you want to get promoted). And if the league was so poor, how come it's breaking attendance records for a second-tier division? The Championship has the sixth-highest attendance numbers in Europe. How often do you go to Championship games and how much do you know about football? Wouldn't surprise me if you're the secondary (or even third) account of another one of those moaning old farts on here - your use of the word "mediocre" gives it away. EDIT: I'm looking at you, flowwolf.
ManorFox Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 ! The Championship is one of the toughest divisions to get out of (at least if you want to get promoted). And if the league was so poor, how come it's breaking attendance records for a second-tier division? The Championship has the sixth-highest attendance numbers in Europe. How often do you go to Championship games and how much do you know about football? Wouldn't surprise me if you're the secondary (or even third) account of another one of those moaning old farts on here - your use of the word "mediocre" gives it away. EDIT: I'm looking at you, flowwolf. Toughest doesn't equate to quality does it, don't let yourself be confused by the Sky Sports hype? The standard of football in relation to the amount paid in wages is a joke. Been a ST holder for over 20 years, is that okay for you?
Monsell1976 Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 These threads are becoming more and more pointless, it's becoming painfull the excuses and lengths some will go to defend Pearson. The reason we blame Pearson is we don't care about what the 22 teams did, only ours, and he made many many errors that contributed to the poor run. He is stopping, last season is done and gone, and Pearson has a big enough ego to defend himself. I can't see it but he might learn from his mistakes and have a successful season next year. Both those constantly defend him, and think he can do no wrong, and those of us that think he won't come good, need to get over it, the season is done, it's over. The only thing to do now is to look forward and not back, and lets see how it plays out.
Dr The Singh Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 These threads are becoming more and more pointless, it's becoming painfull the excuses and lengths some will go to defend Pearson. The reason we blame Pearson is we don't care about what the 22 teams did, only ours, and he made many many errors that contributed to the poor run. He is stopping, last season is done and gone, and Pearson has a big enough ego to defend himself. I can't see it but he might learn from his mistakes and have a successful season next year. Both those constantly defend him, and think he can do no wrong, and those of us that think he won't come good, need to get over it, the season is done, it's over. The only thing to do now is to look forward and not back, and lets see how it plays out. Agreed, Pearson failed in his mission, full stop
5waller5 Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 Agreed, Pearson failed in his mission, full stop Agreed. The only thing to debate is if he deserves another crack at it. For me, no. But i can see the argument for as well.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 Mediocrity is why we failed again. Inconsistent displays, lack of desire, and inability to play to other sides weaknesses, has cost us dearly.
Vale Blue Posted 22 May 2013 Author Posted 22 May 2013 These threads are becoming more and more pointless, it's becoming painfull the excuses and lengths some will go to defend Pearson. The reason we blame Pearson is we don't care about what the 22 teams did, only ours, and he made many many errors that contributed to the poor run. He is stopping, last season is done and gone, and Pearson has a big enough ego to defend himself. I can't see it but he might learn from his mistakes and have a successful season next year. Both those constantly defend him, and think he can do no wrong, and those of us that think he won't come good, need to get over it, the season is done, it's over. The only thing to do now is to look forward and not back, and lets see how it plays out. I'm not a massive NP fan nor am I one of his haters. But the thread and some of its content highlights trends across all clubsin the Championship. What you guys seem to ignore is who will do a better job? Are we guaranteed progress if we change manager? and we are totally skint and in a complete mess, when you consider we are meant to be meeting the FFP requirements. Lots of clubs change manager and how many succeed immediately as a result? We need success this season before we get battered by the FFP fines.
smudger63 Posted 22 May 2013 Posted 22 May 2013 I'm not a massive NP fan nor am I one of his haters. But the thread and some of its content highlights trends across all clubsin the Championship. What you guys seem to ignore is who will do a better job? Are we guaranteed progress if we change manager? and we are totally skint and in a complete mess, when you consider we are meant to be meeting the FFP requirements. Lots of clubs change manager and how many succeed immediately as a result? We need success this season before we get battered by the FFP fines. Well Steve Bruce only took over at Hull last summer and was promoted in his first season. You may well say that Hull were promoted with a squad assembled in the main by Nigel Pearson, but the difference is Bruce was able to get them promoted, Pearson wasn`t.
deanolegend1989 Posted 23 May 2013 Posted 23 May 2013 Mediocrity is why we failed again. Inconsistent displays, lack of desire, and inability to play to other sides weaknesses, has cost us dearly. Lack of desire? 1-0 down and 2-2 to Forest(a team shot up the table) and cameback to get in the playoffs? on the back of a shocking run of 1 in 14 against Bolton(a team shot up the table) but turn around 1-0 down and 2-2? on an awful run of form going to Brighton(at a time they were bang in form) and play a good footballing team off the park and so nearly knick 3 points? Even mention Watford, where although my opinion we deserved to win, most people seem to think we were poor and Watford battered us, yet we had 1 kick away from Wembley? no desire or passion right? but no quality either, so how did we get within a kick? Did you see Andy Kings last ditch wonder tackle? Did you see Nugents face when he scored? I could go on, but IMO if we really want promotion we'll be there by this time next year if we: - Stick with Pearson. - Keep the majority of squad and back him with some money(dont even need much tbh). Ill be very sure we'll be up around 1st position if we dont lose any key players, add to the squad and keep Pearson.
MC Prussian Posted 23 May 2013 Posted 23 May 2013 Toughest doesn't equate to quality does it, don't let yourself be confused by the Sky Sports hype? The standard of football in relation to the amount paid in wages is a joke. Been a ST holder for over 20 years, is that okay for you? Then why do you still put up with it after 20 odd years? Nobody's forcing you to watch that "joke" standard. The Championship was never been famous for producing fast-paced, breathtaking and attractive football. Because that doesn't get you anywhere in this division. It might work for a short while, but after a couple of games, the opposition will have found you out and practically park the bus in order to stop you and to minimize the danger of getting torn apart. I thought with a 20-year history as a fan, you ought to know that.
KFS Posted 23 May 2013 Posted 23 May 2013 Can't be bothered to read through this thread, all the same buzzwords are coming up. "FFP" "1 in 17" etc etc, I could also tell you the contents of the next thread about our Nige, it's that predictable. One question though; how will all the boo boys react if we were to get promoted under NP this season? Calmly clap in silence? There's no going back now, you've made your hate for him clear so what will you do?
Monsell1976 Posted 23 May 2013 Posted 23 May 2013 Can't be bothered to read through this thread, all the same buzzwords are coming up. "FFP" "1 in 17" etc etc, I could also tell you the contents of the next thread about our Nige, it's that predictable. One question though; how will all the boo boys react if we were to get promoted under NP this season? Calmly clap in silence? There's no going back now, you've made your hate for him clear so what will you do? Your just as bad as the Pearson out brigade, what you gonna do if he fails, carry on telling everyone he is still the best think since sliced bread.If you could be bothered to read it you would see constructive opinions on both sides of the argument, as well as some sillyness. You and the Pearson in brigade might end up with egg on your face, so till we are promoted save the your wrong crap. I don't rate his management style, and think he's took us as far as his ability can, but if he has a blinding season and we go up, I won't be hiding anyway, and I think everybody wether we like Pearson as manager or not will just be glad of some success. I guessing you have posted to get a reaction, which I am giving you, but lets get past all this in or out bollox as its boring now.
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