Charl91 Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 Cardboard Box tax would be a popular policy, could earn decent tax revenue as well if the amount of homeless is rising as much as Ken says it is. I don't think it's fair that homeless people don't pay tax. That's a sound policy, if you ask me. They get all this income just given to them from hardworking people (who actually work for their money), but what percentage do they actually pay on that? If I was getting paid cash in hand, I'd get arrested.
Guest MattP Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 Has to be done. Pavement tax as well. Those things need work after someone being sat there for 29 years. This could be the countries saviour.
lavrentis Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 That is quite obviously tongue in cheek. Oh it makes sense now ..
Rincewind Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 Has to be done. Pavement tax as well. Those things need work after someone being sat there for 29 years. This could be the countries saviour. You may joke but I read a story about a homeless man in Italy being put under house arrest. He had done something wrong and the police said he wasn't to move from a certain area. deserves to go in the funny stories thread. Found it and it was in the Sun and Independent so opposite political spectrum.
ealingfox Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 I wasn't born into wealth at all. Not poverty either, but not wealth. Both parents were from a council estate. I lived in Braunstone for a while in my twenties and I still voted Tory. It's about asiprations for me, why would I vote for a party that wants to keep me poor and on their voting roll? Utter rubbish. Regardless of who was in power, we would still live in a meritocratic, capitalist country, in a meritocratic, capitalist world. Nobody is keeping you poor, especially if you are middle-class and white. What you are saying there, if you were right that is, is that its ok for poor people to be kept poor as long as people who are living comfortably can make themselves rich.
Guest MattP Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 Utter rubbish. Regardless of who was in power, we would still live in a meritocratic, capitalist country, in a meritocratic, capitalist world. Nobody is keeping you poor, especially if you are middle-class and white. What you are saying there, if you were right that is, is that its ok for poor people to be kept poor as long as people who are living comfortably can make themselves rich. Thank god for the first paragraph. A lot of poor people seem intent of keeping themselves that way. Im saying some government is happy to help them do that. Labour wouldn't want New Parks full of millionaires tomorrow would it?
Rincewind Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 Labour wouldn't want New Parks full of millionaires tomorrow would it? Well according to how the cuts have been omplimented and unemployed benefit scroungers have been accused of living the life of Riley it would seem that New Parks, Braunstone and cardboard Alley is full of millionaires.
Charl91 Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 Labour wouldn't want New Parks full of millionaires tomorrow would it? Well according to how the cuts have been omplimented and unemployed benefit scroungers have been accused of living the life of Riley it would seem that New Parks, Braunstone and cardboard Alley is full of millionaires. Probably would be if they sold their cigarettes and plasma TV's.
Zingari Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 I wasn't born into wealth at all. Not poverty either, but not wealth. Both parents were from a council estate. I lived in Braunstone for a while in my twenties and I still voted Tory. It's about asiprations for me, why would I vote for a party that wants to keep me poor and on their voting roll? Why do you say that? Surely you've spent most of you're working life under a labour government . In what way did it stop you from being successful? Or have all the improvements to your wealth and standing been made in the last 3 years ?
Rincewind Posted 17 July 2013 Posted 17 July 2013 Watching The Culture Show on BBC 2. Somebody is performing Shelles The Masque of Anarchy. When it was written only landowners were allowed to vote. There was a protest in around 1820 which brought the working class together and brought forth a lot of refoems. Some may not like him but they are talking to Billy Bragg and he is saying similar things to what has been said on here in favour of politics. The interviewer asked if protest was worth it as nothing changes and he said if people were like that in Shelleys time she wouldn't have the vote. He said in the 80's people may not agree with him but they had a discussion now he says its not PC to talk about it.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 19 July 2013 Posted 19 July 2013 UKIP could probably take you to court for the lies levelled at them in that article. To describe them as far-right is ludicrous. The reason people don't vote Lib Dems is because over history they have wrong over big decisions so often, imagine if they had got hold of us, we would now be the Euro zone. This in a nutshell.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 19 July 2013 Posted 19 July 2013 Utter rubbish. Regardless of who was in power, we would still live in a meritocratic, capitalist country, in a meritocratic, capitalist world. Nobody is keeping you poor, especially if you are middle-class and white. What you are saying there, if you were right that is, is that its ok for poor people to be kept poor as long as people who are living comfortably can make themselves rich. You seem to have a nasty chip on your shoulder. Are you a Marxist, or do you just feel inferior, spouting this kind of communistic nonsense?
Shoe Seller Posted 20 July 2013 Posted 20 July 2013 Some people, who have no ambition, are not prepared to work hard or have wasted opportunists open to them, naturally become liberal and socialist since it works in their favour for the products of all labour/endeavour to benefit all and for all to be equal. I wonder if they'd think the same if the boot was on the other foot. I don't wonder. It's a turn of phrase. I know.
ADK Posted 20 July 2013 Posted 20 July 2013 The trouble with politics in the UK is the system we have dosn't provide people with the choices of government they would like and people are as yet too apathetic to do anything about it.
Rincewind Posted 20 July 2013 Posted 20 July 2013 When the coalition was formed I was hoping PR would be pushed through. Seems to have died with a whimper like Clegg. Hope he can recover before the election or we are going to be left with the usual suspects. It's not that I do not want to vote, I do, it's that I do not like the choice.
ADK Posted 20 July 2013 Posted 20 July 2013 There really isn't a sensible choice, hopefully there's a decent independant i can vote for.
MooseBreath Posted 20 July 2013 Posted 20 July 2013 When the coalition was formed I was hoping PR would be pushed through. Seems to have died with a whimper like Clegg. Hope he can recover before the election or we are going to be left with the usual suspects. It's not that I do not want to vote, I do, it's that I do not like the choice. Become a politician then ken. Imagine how many funds you could divert away from stupid things like business and finance and into the hands of deserving homeless people. Be the change you want to see in the world.
Rincewind Posted 20 July 2013 Posted 20 July 2013 There really isn't a sensible choice, hopefully there's a decent independant i can vote for. I may do the same although it's all about the young people now. See what's on offer for after I'm gone.
The God Emperor Posted 20 July 2013 Posted 20 July 2013 its not FPTP that's the problem. it wouldnt matter what voting system we had in place, the same problems would exist. real substantial change for the better wont happen because the status quo is very profitible for the powers that be. its what happens when a large bureaucracy develops, the bureaucracy becomes a self serving aristocracy.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 24 July 2013 Posted 24 July 2013 I said they were far-right which others have said is down to interpretation? They're nationalist, against equal marriage and have racist members? They're all true? Anyone opposed to gay marriage, is worth a vote in my book .Which party doesn't have racist members?
Guest MattP Posted 24 July 2013 Posted 24 July 2013 When the coalition was formed I was hoping PR would be pushed through. Seems to have died with a whimper like Clegg. Hope he can recover before the election or we are going to be left with the usual suspects. It's not that I do not want to vote, I do, it's that I do not like the choice. Yes let's force through something the vast majority of the country doesn't support. I actually wouldnt mind PR but politicians have no business forcing something through like that without a mandate from the country.
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