If only we could hold concerts at the KP - We Can Now!

[GingerrrFox]

The construction problem is not to do with decibels it's to do with dancing / stroke jumping up and down to the same beat.

Because dancing is synchronised it causes the structure to oscillate/vibrate where as football fans tend to do there own thing and any synchronised movements involves much smaller numbers of people for much shorter times.

30,000 all jumping up and down to the same bet would cause the stadium to do this -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAXVa__XWZ8

We'd be ****ed if we ever play Galatasaray then.

[Guest Col city fan]

We'd be ****ed if we ever play Galatasaray then.

[Stadt]

Turkish Stadiums must be made of Wes Morgan

[Foxes_Trust]

We can confirm the constructional issues result in the much smaller capacity for music concerts as posted above

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The main issue is that many clubs have lost money on concerts, there are 2 different approaches:

 

a) Club promotes a concert themselves (this was the approach the club took several years ago & proved they "lacked the experience" to do so successfully), club then takes all the risk, but if they get it right, can make profits

 

b) The club gets a venue fee only, then leaves the ticket sales & risk to an experienced promoter. However the revenue for the club is far less

[Guest MattP]

A) Club promotes a concert themselves (this was the approach the club took several years ago & proved they "lacked the experience" to do so successfully), club then takes all the risk, but if they get it right, can make profits

b) The club gets a venue fee only, then leaves the ticket sales & risk to an experienced promoter. However the revenue for the club is far less

C) Book Kasabian > sells out like a shot > make a fortune.

We should bring in that gorilla who escaped from Tycross the other week to head up the operations at our football club.

Would run far smoother and do a better job. Might get the memberships out for the season start as well.

[Dan]

C) Book Kasabian > sells out like a shot > make a fortune.

We should bring in that gorilla who escaped from Tycross the other week to head up the operations at our football club.

Would run far smoother and do a better job. Might get the memberships out for the season start as well.

 

I thought this. They'd break even on Kasabian alone.

[Dan]

We'd be ****ed if we ever play Galatasaray then.

 

And that's before we got in the ground.

[Number 6]

The owners are business people, I'd very very surprised if this isn't on their radar. Even if it wasn't a specifically Leicester band the central location should still make it an attractive location. Obviously don't know ow all the financial details but it does seem a bit of a no brainer, especially with FFP.

[Haydos]

Something something ~ loudest the stadium has ever been something something louder fans something something george taft something something

Reading that and looking at your profile picture made me giggle uncontrollably.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

2x over. Kasbian could play 2 shows at the KP in the same week and they would both sell out. The fact they are fans of the club as well I imagine they would let the club take a hefty sum of the profits once they've been paid their dues.

 

  Not sure it works that way!

[Guest MattP]

Can people stop going on about FFP?

 

UEFA are not going to allow revenue from music concerts to be passed off under football spendings!!

 

If they did Arsenal would soon become the richest football club in the World.

[davieG]

Can people stop going on about FFP?

 

UEFA are not going to allow revenue from music concerts to be passed off under football spendings!!

 

If they did Arsenal would soon become the richest football club in the World.

Is it any different to money earned from letting rooms out for conferences. I would have thought any money accrued through the use of the stadium would count as income for the Football Club.

[Lasty]

Bugger it, let's have a bucket collection outside the ground. Surely FFP would allow that!

[Guest MattP]

Is it any different to money earned from letting rooms out for conferences. I would have thought any money accrued through the use of the stadium would count as income for the Football Club.

I didn't think income from non-football hospitality could count either?

[Guest MattP]

If it does Arsenal should be getting Coldplay back. Gates for their concerts at the Emirates last year were about 10 million.

[davieG]

I didn't think income from non-football hospitality could count either?

It would be hard to separate, would income from the restaurants and executive boxes for example only count for match days?

[Guest MattP]

It would be hard to separate, would income from the restaurants and executive boxes for example only count for match days?

 

That would be my impression of it, maybe the Foxes Trust can shed some light on it.

[Bettsj2]

I thought this. They'd break even on Kasabian alone.

But then what? We have to remember that other acts maybe wouldnt want to come and play as eagerly as Kasabian would. And we all say it would sell out which it would, but would that be enough? Most of the punters would be local so would drink in the local before so maybe wouldnt buy so much beer, would eat at home so maybe wouldnt buy as much food, you aint makin much on merchandise as its not that kind of crowd, so if you sold 10,000 standing tickets and 20,000 seated at an average of £30 a ticket, that's only £900k. Say the stadium improvements are £250k, logistics of putting the gig on about £150k, paying the band £200k, insurance, staffing, licensing and other costs £100k, is it really worth it for maybe £200k profit and that is the very beat we could hope for?

[Dan]

But then what? We have to remember that other acts maybe wouldnt want to come and play as eagerly as Kasabian would. And we all say it would sell out which it would, but would that be enough? Most of the punters would be local so would drink in the local before so maybe wouldnt buy so much beer, would eat at home so maybe wouldnt buy as much food, you aint makin much on merchandise as its not that kind of crowd, so if you sold 10,000 standing tickets and 20,000 seated at an average of £30 a ticket, that's only £900k. Say the stadium improvements are £250k, logistics of putting the gig on about £150k, paying the band £200k, insurance, staffing, licensing and other costs £100k, is it really worth it for maybe £200k profit and that is the very beat we could hope for?

 

If it breaks even on Kasabian alone then it's worth it. I'm no expert on the costs that you've mentioned, but would it not make sense? Making a small profit to give the most prestigous band Leicester have had in my lifetime the chance to actually play in their home city, and to give Filbert Way a better structure?

 

I'm not saying it'll become a regular thing and I wouldn't expect us to make millions, but if we could actually make money, doing nothing but good for everyone, then what is the reason for not?

 

I'd be straight down there if Kasabian played there.

[Guest Col city fan]

For me it's a no brainer.

As I said before, it's scandalous having such a big venue empty all summer.

They should spend the money, reinforce the structure and then reap the profits over many years.

Has the club any business sense?

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

The construction problem is not to do with decibels it's to do with dancing / stroke jumping up and down to the same beat.

 

Because dancing is synchronised it causes the structure to oscillate/vibrate where as football fans tend to do there own thing and any synchronised movements involves much smaller numbers of people for much shorter times.

 

30,000 all jumping up and down to the same bet would cause the stadium to do this -

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAXVa__XWZ8

Yes, that's right Davie, I knew there was some relevant reason to do with music.

[Zingari]

The construction problem is not to do with decibels it's to do with dancing / stroke jumping up and down to the same beat.

 

Because dancing is synchronised it causes the structure to oscillate/vibrate where as football fans tend to do there own thing and any synchronised movements involves much smaller numbers of people for much shorter times.

 

30,000 all jumping up and down to the same bet would cause the stadium to do this -

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAXVa__XWZ8

Those people aren't walking or jumping or doing anything synchronized though.

They weren't marching like a military parade. (Soldiers used to break step when crossing bridges etc to prevent this.)

 

That bridge was just an over priced shit design and they needed some excuse for funding to put it right . 

[davieG]

Those people aren't walking or jumping or doing anything synchronized though.

They weren't marching like a military parade. (Soldiers used to break step when crossing bridges etc to prevent this.)

 

That bridge was just an over priced shit design and they needed some excuse for funding to put it right . 

It was found that they did march like a military parade people were matching the stride and pace of the those in front of them synchronising with each other.

[Zingari]

It was found that they did march like a military parade people were matching the stride and pace of the those in front of them synchronising with each other.

They will always find some "experts" to come out with this shite when they want more cash   

Take a look at the footage for yourself , half the crowd are hanging on stood still , the crowd is walking both ways across ( how is that synchronised ?)

i doubt if you could get a mixed crowd of all age groups , sexes , sizes etc to walk in a synchronised fashion with less than a weeks training, and then you'd still need a drum or music  

[davieG]

They will always find some "experts" to come out with this shite when they want more cash   

Take a look at the footage for yourself , half the crowd are hanging on stood still , the crowd is walking both ways across ( how is that synchronised ?)

i doubt if you could get a mixed crowd of all age groups , sexes , sizes etc to walk in a synchronised fashion with less than a weeks training, and then you'd still need a drum or music  

You may be correct with respect to that bridge but the principle is still true as to why we can't have big concert crowds.