Zingari Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 You may be correct with respect to that bridge but the principle is still true as to why we can't have big concert crowds. yes , i agree with that bit My own opinion regarding the bridge is that it was ill designed against movement from side wind , and once it started to move the people on the bridge moved with it amplifing the movement. The people weren't "syncronised walking" causing the sway , they were "synchronised swaying" once the bridge had already started to rock sideways. I'd wager the reasons given for the fault were more to do with funding than genuine cause . But then I am a suspicious fecker
sphericalfox Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 If they spent the money on the refurb to allow concerts to safely take place, it wouldn't be in my view a venue that would interest many people. I'd say those who go to concerts are a slightly different kettle of fish to football fans, and parking would be the main downfall.
Stadt Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 You're going to lose one end of the stadium due to the stage,are people likely want to sit/stand at the other end due to the distance ? Standing won't be all over the pitch either so will only the current capacity for concerts be reached ordinarily? Obviously Kasabian would sell it out but the average gig won't reach 30,000 capacities as some are touting,only the likes of Rihanna and One Direction are going to sell out and are they going to want to tour in Leicester as well as Nottingham? I'd love for Kasabian to play at the KP however I just don't see concerts as a constant revenue stream for us.Having said that the only way we could really tell if it'd be a success is if we tried
Bettsj2 Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 You're going to lose one end of the stadium due to the stage,are people likely want to sit/stand at the other end due to the distance ? Standing won't be all over the pitch either so will only the current capacity for concerts be reached ordinarily? Obviously Kasabian would sell it out but the average gig won't reach 30,000 capacities as some are touting,only the likes of Rihanna and One Direction are going to sell out and are they going to want to tour in Leicester as well as Nottingham? I'd love for Kasabian to play at the KP however I just don't see concerts as a constant revenue stream for us.Having said that the only way we could really tell if it'd be a success is if we tried Exactly this. For all the hassle just so Kasabian can play there just isnt worth it. There has to be some sort of long term gain for such a project not just some sort of local band jizzfest.
Bettsj2 Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 If it breaks even on Kasabian alone then it's worth it. I'm no expert on the costs that you've mentioned, but would it not make sense? Making a small profit to give the most prestigous band Leicester have had in my lifetime the chance to actually play in their home city, and to give Filbert Way a better structure? I'm not saying it'll become a regular thing and I wouldn't expect us to make millions, but if we could actually make money, doing nothing but good for everyone, then what is the reason for not? I'd be straight down there if Kasabian played there. I think this why a lot of people think its a good idea because we love the idea of watching Kasabian at the ground. But thats not reason enough to do it. Status Quo sell out Nottingham Arena year after year but they only sold a few thousand when they were booked at the stadium. Kasabian aside, people in Leicester just dont go to gigs in the volume required to do this. Go to any of the music venues in the City and watch a gig and there's never a full house. Even Demont is rarely full.
Bettsj2 Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 For me it's a no brainer. As I said before, it's scandalous having such a big venue empty all summer. They should spend the money, reinforce the structure and then reap the profits over many years. Has the club any business sense? They have business sense which is probably why they dont do it and probably why hardly any other stadiums do it either. Why go through the ballache of a stadium gig when there's Nottingham Arena, NEC and NIA all nearby, equipped and ready to go?
Guest Col city fan Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 They have business sense which is probably why they dont do it and probably why hardly any other stadiums do it either. Why go through the ballache of a stadium gig when there's Nottingham Arena, NEC and NIA all nearby, equipped and ready to go? I say again it seems crazy to me to have such a big venue, all those seats, food stalls, parking etc etc and have it lying dormant for months at a time. It's like having a big house, empty when it could be rented, or a shop lying idle when it could be selling goods. It would be great to see Kasabian playing the KP but they are but one band. The KP, hosting 25k tops every other week can't make business sense to me. In fact, we know it doesn't. You just need to look at the accounts.
SystonFox Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 Kasabian at the KP would be a dream. They are yet to play a stadium tour though and now after 4 albums I think they may be about ready. They should insist on playing the KP, as said could even do two nights!
Bettsj2 Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 I say again it seems crazy to me to have such a big venue, all those seats, food stalls, parking etc etc and have it lying dormant for months at a time. It's like having a big house, empty when it could be rented, or a shop lying idle when it could be selling goods. It would be great to see Kasabian playing the KP but they are but one band. The KP, hosting 25k tops every other week can't make business sense to me. In fact, we know it doesn't. You just need to look at the accounts. It is crazy but its not an issue that has just arisen. Football stadiums of large capacity have been around for what 20 years? And in that time not one club has concerts on during the summer year in and year out? Is it the fact that every single club with a large stadium has no business sense or is the reality that stadium gigs just dont make any money? Who knows. I honestly dont think concerts are the way to go (although it would be great to watch Kasabian there) but boxing, wrestling, mma is. You wouldnt have to pay out on any structural work and there isnt the logistical nightmare you have with a concert. Ring in the middle if the pitch, seating around on the pitch and open the stands.
Foxes_Trust Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 But then what? We have to remember that other acts maybe wouldnt want to come and play as eagerly as Kasabian would. And we all say it would sell out which it would, but would that be enough? Most of the punters would be local so would drink in the local before so maybe wouldnt buy so much beer, would eat at home so maybe wouldnt buy as much food, you aint makin much on merchandise as its not that kind of crowd, so if you sold 10,000 standing tickets and 20,000 seated at an average of £30 a ticket, that's only £900k. Say the stadium improvements are £250k, logistics of putting the gig on about £150k, paying the band £200k, insurance, staffing, licensing and other costs £100k, is it really worth it for maybe £200k profit and that is the very beat we could hope for? The work required would not be a 5 minute job, so could easily stretch over a complete closed season. So that would mean spending £250k (that was the price of work from around 8 years ago), so if a 30k sell out was feasible, it would only achieve slightly more profit than doing a 14k (allowed now capacity) with no work required. All those figures however are based on the club doing its own concert promotion
Langley Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 I don't know about this. What is stopping us? Noise restrictions? Not sure I would want to see 1D but the money would be useful.. Not enough fire exits close to the pitch from what I can remember.
Bettsj2 Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 The work required would not be a 5 minute job, so could easily stretch over a complete closed season. So that would mean spending £250k (that was the price of work from around 8 years ago), so if a 30k sell out was feasible, it would only achieve slightly more profit than doing a 14k (allowed now capacity) with no work required. All those figures however are based on the club doing its own concert promotion Which would be suicide. You cant promote a concert and make money without the subsequent income stream (future album sales, ticket sales). Unless you really had the know how, contacts and experience, that would be a disaster.
Foxes_Trust Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 Which would be suicide. You cant promote a concert and make money without the subsequent income stream (future album sales, ticket sales). Unless you really had the know how, contacts and experience, that would be a disaster. Agreed, which is why it fell apart last time, as the club were too "local" in their thinking, advertising in the Mercury, when to pull in sales it needed national & regional publicity in media sources that focus on music events
Langley Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 Agreed, which is why it fell apart last time, as the club were too "local" in their thinking, advertising in the Mercury, when to pull in sales it needed national & regional publicity in media sources that focus on music events Cov are doing alright at getting bands in to be fair to them,.
Bettsj2 Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 Agreed, which is why it fell apart last time, as the club were too "local" in their thinking, advertising in the Mercury, when to pull in sales it needed national & regional publicity in media sources that focus on music events Which costs a fortune and still doesnt gaurantee a crowd. That Quo gig was such a shambles. Werent the support act Liberty X or someone?
Bettsj2 Posted 22 August 2013 Posted 22 August 2013 Cov are doing alright at getting bands in to be fair to them,. Thats because that stadium was built with that in mind and not the football. The Ricoh is right next to the motorway, has shitloads more parking and shitloads more facility for concerts. Even saying that, they dont do it that often.
davieG Posted 27 March 2014 Author Posted 27 March 2014 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-City-set-permission-hold-concerts-King/story-20857439-detail/story.html
Babylon Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Well I hope they will be better than the utter toss currently in line to be served up at the tigers.
AndWhat? Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Hope the Kasabian gig isn't moved to Filbert Way. Much less CCTV at Vicky Park
lgfualol Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Good luck to them trying to get acts/managers that want to come to here, and that could sell enough tickets to make it worth it.
AndWhat? Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Good luck to them trying to get acts/managers that want to come to here, and that could sell enough tickets to make it worth it. Coventry got flippin' Oasis! COVENTRY!!
Lionator Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Coventry got flippin' Oasis! COVENTRY!! I reckon the idea is to nick the gigs that the Ricoh used to put on.
hackneyfox Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 I reckon the idea is to nick the gigs that the Ricoh used to put on. The Ricoh haven't stopped putting on gigs because co* have moved out, if anything they'll be looking to put on even more.
lgfualol Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 Coventry got flippin' Oasis! COVENTRY!! We're not really missing out when it comes to them though.
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 27 March 2014 Posted 27 March 2014 I can't imagine the Thai's are overly enthralled with both the standard of the stadium and also the design. I wouldn't be surprised if after a few years in the Premiership they wanted to do a major overhaul. The stadium certainly lacks something, it was almost a flat pack build. Goes without saying the view is good wherever you sit, but there is nothing that makes it stand out compared to other stadiums. Does anybody know if the potential is there to increase capacity etc?
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