Zingari Posted 18 September 2013 Posted 18 September 2013 That's because you're in bed by 8:30 Everyone should be in beddybyes by 8:30 . The world would be a much safer happier place
Rincewind Posted 18 September 2013 Posted 18 September 2013 Tend to agree with the self-financing drunk tank idea, with certain provisos. Extending it to making drunks/druggies pay for NHS treatment opens a whole can of worms, though. Do you also charge people injured when they choose to go rock-climbing or hang-gliding? How about people who crash their cars when speeding? People with lung cancer from smoking? Or even people who develop angina because they sit at home and take no exercise? Taking personal behaviour into account in clinical priorities (e.g. not giving liver transplants to people who are active alcoholics) is reasonable, but do we really want the state approving or disapproving every last bit of our lifestyle? Well some want to do away with the NHS. The rich would pay for help with their anti-social behavior the poor would die from them. Problem solved.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 18 September 2013 Posted 18 September 2013 I got so pissed once i pissed on my parents carpet whilst they were asleep. i also did it up my bedroom curtains once too. Though I don't drink during the week, I dont drink at home and its not that often i hit it hard at the weekend unless theres a session before the footy. I dont see the point and frequently laugh at the hangover facebook status' each weekend. Ive stopped a lot due to dads ill health with his liver and he's never ever drank much. 2 pints of guiness a month perhaps.
Vlad the Fox Posted 18 September 2013 Posted 18 September 2013 If so it's not policed is it? The licensing authority should have undercover agents doing pub crawls to catch offenders. Now that's what I call a job. I can see it now after an investigative pub crawl in town two competing undercover agents having a brawl in McDonald's for eyeing up each others target pubs.
Smudge Posted 18 September 2013 Posted 18 September 2013 I can see it now after an investigative pub crawl in town two competing undercover agents having a brawl in McDonald's for eyeing up each others target pubs. Yep, that's the irony of it. Or they get so pissed they get cut off.
morris1234 Posted 18 September 2013 Posted 18 September 2013 Similar to the idea of fining those who 'attend' A'n'E through simply being too drunk. How long until those on benefits are exempt from such charges?
ADK Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 Should fine people who suffer sports injuries or suffer injuries in car accidents too then.
Rincewind Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 Fine parents when they take their child with a saucepan on their head for not using contraceptives
Zingari Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 Fine parents when they take their child with a saucepan on their head for not using contraceptives i'm sure that only ever happens in comic strips . I'd love to know if a child had ever been taken to hospital with a saucepan stuck on his head
Rincewind Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 i'm sure that only ever happens in comic strips . I'd love to know if a child had ever been taken to hospital with a saucepan stuck on his head Yeah OK.Bit extreme but highlighting the where will it end element.
Guest Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 Fine parents when they take their child with a saucepan on their head for not using contraceptives How much do you think saucepan related child injuries cost the NHS a year?
Smudge Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 How much do you think saucepan related child injuries cost the NHS a year? A pot load
Parafox Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 No one's saying the police should act as a taxi and hotel service ffs.It really isn't like that. Drunks have been falling asleep on benches and staggering home for as long as anyone can remember and very few actually die. And if they are in that bad condition to be in such danger I really don't see that being taken to a hostel is the answer , Do you? If they are in a really serious condition or in danger they still will be taken to A&E or taken to the police station if the are vulnerable and in danger. If just drunk , sent on their way . If breaking laws arrest them. More nannying nonsense and a chance for a nice little earner for someone in the know . To put the record straight here, the police do not take drunks to the cells if they are even slightly at risk through being drunk. They call an ambulance and they get taken to A+E. The only times I am aware of where someone would be arrested and taken to a cell is if they have committed an offence and have the capacity to not be a risk. This is a judgement call and we are often asked to attend to assess whether the person is fit to be in a cell. Mostly they go to A+E with a police officer escort.
Guest MattP Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 Reading about this in the papers. Very worrying for me considering the mess I often get myself in.
Alf Bentley Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 Reading about this in the papers. Very worrying for me considering the mess I often get myself in. Would have been very worrying for me 20 years ago. But now that I'm no longer physically capable of that sort of lifestyle, I can smugly approve of the benefits of educating/fining the wildness out of the younger pisshead. It's a sign, Matt! It's time to settle down, buy a nice little retirement property in Oadby, prune a few rosebushes, acquire a pair of slippers and a tin of horlicks and await the summons from the man with the scythe!
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 To put the record straight here, the police do not take drunks to the cells if they are even slightly at risk through being drunk. They call an ambulance and they get taken to A+E. The only times I am aware of where someone would be arrested and taken to a cell is if they have committed an offence and have the capacity to not be a risk. This is a judgement call and we are often asked to attend to assess whether the person is fit to be in a cell. Mostly they go to A+E with a police officer escort. Wrong, drunks are always put in cells in Wycombe, unless they have sustained injuries. I have helped put a few through the door in my time.
Alf Bentley Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 Wrong, drunks are always put in cells in Wycombe, unless they have sustained injuries. I have helped put a few through the door in my time. That tallies with the experience of my misspent youth. I ended up in the cells on 6 occasions. On 3 of those, I had minor charges/cautions, but the other 3 times, I was just chucked in there to sober up. I was never taken to A&E because I was never injured or ill. That was 20-28 years ago, though.
Guest MattP Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 Would have been very worrying for me 20 years ago. But now that I'm no longer physically capable of that sort of lifestyle, I can smugly approve of the benefits of educating/fining the wildness out of the younger pisshead. It's a sign, Matt! It's time to settle down, buy a nice little retirement property in Oadby, prune a few rosebushes, acquire a pair of slippers and a tin of horlicks and await the summons from the man with the scythe! I wish I had the cash to do it Alf. It is certainly time to start settling down soon though, its frightening me.
Smudge Posted 19 September 2013 Posted 19 September 2013 Wrong, drunks are always put in cells in Wycombe, unless they have sustained injuries. I have helped put a few through the door in my time. Was it open?
Zingari Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 Was it open? Yes, hopefully the door was open at the time they went through it. But maybe not in Wild West Wycombe !
Smudge Posted 20 September 2013 Posted 20 September 2013 Yes, hopefully the door was open at the time they went through it. But maybe not in Wild West Wycombe ! Thank God you're around
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 1000's die every year for various reasons due to them being paralytic after a night out, that's with the police locking up 10,000's every year for their own safety, and you want to not bother with it? The acute alcohol related death stats would go up massively, Yes I do actually a properly run hostel for drunk twats paid for by drunk twats employing people trained to look after drunk twats sounds ideal to me. Saves the tax payers money, teaches the particular drunk a lesson without them having to be at risk. Perfect solution. We aren't talking about the ones in need of medical attention we are talking specifically about the 1000's locked up purely because they've lost all capability to look after their own well being, you seem to be forgetting this. Exactly. That is what we did, and still do. If they were left to wander the street in a dangerous condition, it would endanger the general public.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 22 September 2013 Posted 22 September 2013 That tallies with the experience of my misspent youth. I ended up in the cells on 6 occasions. On 3 of those, I had minor charges/cautions, but the other 3 times, I was just chucked in there to sober up. I was never taken to A&E because I was never injured or ill. That was 20-28 years ago, though. Yup. Still the same. I t even happened to me once, when I was off duty with the police. I was at home and tried to top myself but passed out with alcohol before I could take the tablets. Not taken to Wycombe, but Aylesbury. Let out at 3am, and taken home. My sergeant, who attended, had some telling words with me a couple of days later. Been fine since, bar the self harming.
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