DennisNedry Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 Educating kids about sex just makes them want to do it more. One thing that has worked a lot though is condom usage. Teenage pregnancies are actually going down now. A condom in the wallet has become an essential for most lads on a night out now.
purpleronnie Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 We need to be more open about sex imo. I'm not sure about the whole age of consent thing. There are pros and cons. That's one of the biggest problems, especially in parenting.
purpleronnie Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 Educating kids about sex just makes them want to do it more. That's not true, for instance the Netherlands has the lowest rates of teenage pregnancy in Europe but have sex education lessons for primary school children.
leicsmac Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 We need to be more open about sex imo. I'm not sure about the whole age of consent thing. There are pros and cons. Absolutely. As a society we're ridiculously repressed in that respect - it's the whole Puritan, "no sex please we're British" thing that runs through most of our society. Makes it very embarrassing to talk about and as such kids end up wanting to find out about it themselves, which often leads to trouble. Educating kids about sex just makes them want to do it more. One thing that has worked a lot though is condom usage. Teenage pregnancies are actually going down now. A condom in the wallet has become an essential for most lads on a night out now. Perhaps, but you've mentioned one of the best things about sex education there - teen pregnancies are dropping (possibly along with STI's) because education is making all of these teen lads keep a rubber in their wallet, as you say. If they're doing to do it (and they are), we need to at least make sure they're doing it safely.
ADK Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 I think it's important to teach primary school children about sex because otherwise they end up getting their education on the playground anyway. We had education on sex and also on drugs in year 6 and it was quite helpful in my opinion because the kids were more attentive and there was less peer pressure about those things at that age.
DennisNedry Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 That's not true, for instance the Netherlands has the lowest rates of teenage pregnancy in Europe but have sex education lessons for primary school children. I take your point, but when we had next to no education about sex, and it was a very taboo subject in society, there were very few teenage pregnancies or even pregnancies outside of marriage.
leicsmac Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 I take your point, but when we had next to no education about sex, and it was a very taboo subject in society, there were very few teenage pregnancies or even pregnancies outside of marriage. Perhaps they were just not talked about or documented - but I'm betting they were still around. Making a subject taboo makes kids of a certain age want know more about it/do it. Always has, always will.
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 I take your point, but when we had next to no education about sex, and it was a very taboo subject in society, there were very few teenage pregnancies or even pregnancies outside of marriage. It still happened. Babies abandoned, backstreet abortions, massive age gap "little brothers". Human nature doesn't change.
ADK Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 I know my dad said that when he went to school, one of the girls died because she had gotten pregnant and attempted to have an abortion (which was illegal at the time) and bled to death. I'd imagine kids still had sex as having sex is a natural urge. In fact it seems a lot of them were having sex with TV presenters. I do agree there is perhaps a cultural shift that encourages the sexualisation of teenagers. That is a separate issue to the one of education though.
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 On topic, I think generally the age of consent works as is, because we don't have a zero tolerance attitude to underage sex. I don't think any 16 or 17 year old has been convicted in recent history for having sex with a 15 year old partner. Education seems to be working as teen pregnancies are dropping, but "British reserve" is still our biggest problem.
ADK Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 On topic, I think generally the age of consent works as is, because we don't have a zero tolerance attitude to underage sex. I don't think any 16 or 17 year old has been convicted in recent history for having sex with a 15 year old partner. Education seems to be working as teen pregnancies are dropping, but "British reserve" is still our biggest problem. I agree with this. Most of the age of consent lowering arguments revolve around an inaccurate portrayal of the age consent as being implemented absolutely. If the age of consent was lowered, I'm not sure what would be different really apart from much older men being allowed to sleep freely with 15 year olds, which is not something most people want to encourage.
Guest shearfox Posted 17 November 2013 Posted 17 November 2013 I don't see how that will stop older men from wanting to prey on young vulnerable children...
davieG Posted 18 November 2013 Author Posted 18 November 2013 Coalville teenager who had sex with girl, 14, is behind barsRead more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Coalville-teenager-sex-girl-14-bars/story-20093711-detail/story.html#ixzz2kzJEb2Ge
davieG Posted 18 November 2013 Author Posted 18 November 2013 lets pay them to NOT have sex. We could use the money saved on not having to pay them to breast feed.
Zingari Posted 18 November 2013 Posted 18 November 2013 lets pay them to NOT have sex. I'd be a feckin millionaire
ADK Posted 18 November 2013 Posted 18 November 2013 Coalville teenager who had sex with girl, 14, is behind bars Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Coalville-teenager-sex-girl-14-bars/story-20093711-detail/story.html#ixzz2kzJEb2Ge Can't really agree with that.
Jon the Hat Posted 18 November 2013 Posted 18 November 2013 Can't really agree with that. 18/2+7 = 16. Dodgy as hell.
ADK Posted 18 November 2013 Posted 18 November 2013 Dodgy maybe, putting someone in prison and labelling them a sex offender? That seems over the top.
Guest MattP Posted 18 November 2013 Posted 18 November 2013 Dodgy maybe, putting someone in prison and labelling them a sex offender? That seems over the top. He knew she was 14 and he also indecently assaulted another 13 year old. Course he should be on the register. Keep the law as it is, I can't think of any positives coming from lowering it except pleasing a few more sickos who like to prey on the vulnerable.
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