Leaving for a new job

[Mickyblueeyes]

I have a mate who was offered a new position and due to promises from his employer not being fulfilled he decided to accept the position and the pay rise.

Now, I've known him for a few years and he is as honest as they come. He provided his employer with more notice than what was required, spent weekends in the office to ensure a smooth transition and sacrificed evenings as well to complete big projects and get his employer a big pay day.

His employer in turn has been bad mouthing him and making underhand comments about his work to his fellow employees making things difficult for him to "enjoy" his last few weeks. Anyway, he managed to complete his time and this is now the coming to the end and his employer has stopped all forms of communication with him. He called me today to moan. I simply told him that you've done your time and your next step is far better than where you are. Let him have his sulk and move on.

The place, a good place to work a few years ago is now filled with lazy so and so being afforded liberties by his boss. He hasn't taken a holiday for nearly 18 months due to excessive work and covering for these lot. Even now there interest in taking work over is far from interested. The company has lost a lot of employees for similar reasons in the last year.

As an employer myself, I live by the Moto not to make my staff do something I couldn't. I have lost only one employee who got an excellent position at a market leading company.

Just wondering if anyone else has had awkward working environments or been treated poorly for

Trying to better themselves.

(P.s it made me laugh when he told his "good morning" was greeted by a grunt)

[Unabomber]

I'm in the same position as your mate by what you are describing so I know all to well how poor some bosses can be unfortunately. 

[Dan]

Ultimately I think he'll go a lot further than his boss and although it's pretty insulting in the short-term, he will have the last laugh.

 

His boss sounds like a complete ****. How can he blame your mate for wanting to better himself?

 

No excuses for that. Surely he's got to just sit back and accept it. Was your mate indispensable to him?

[Mickyblueeyes]

He took over a very senior role on the basis that his boss fulfilled certain promises - not pay related but other things - quite reasonable given the profession he is in. All were ignored and to add to it, he provided the same to other employees. For months my mates personal life suffered due to this. He went for this new position on a whim and got it.

A lot of the companies bigger clients like working with him - shame his boss didn't see.

The fact that his boss can't see his own shortcomings and blames his employee for trying to get out of a horrible situation - this includes numerous times of requesting meetings etc to try to work out why he wasn't getting what he needed.

Shame really. I agree, he will go far, needs a break though - told him to go away for a week but he is insistent on working his full notice!

[Rocket-Ron]

Sadly some people in charge have the attitude that you are either with them or against them, nothing in between.

your friend is doing the right thing by doing what's best for himself. Fuck anyone else, best out of it.

[srbfox]

I left a position in aug, prior to me leaving we treated well, however well in an unprofessional manner if you get my just. We able to prettying do what I liked and work what I liked. I was given this freedom cos when push came to shove I went way beyond what I was expected to do. So if you like I worked my behind of when the company needed me to and when they didn't, I didn't. The company was success when this was happening however as soon I handed my notice in, the company went Hitler on me and I couldn't work to the style I had done in the previous five years.

My advice is do you really want to be with such a two faces company? If this is how they treat someone who want to further their career then it's best to get out!

[Rob1742]

it is as difficult for the employer as it is for the employee. Well more difficult infact.

I know which I preffered.

You can pay people double what the job is worth, give them enough rope to hang themselves, and you know what, the majority do.

Lots of employees take the pee, however you treat them and so it's an extremely difficult task managing them.

You engage and get their views, and undoubtably a good half of them will want to do less, for more benefits.

I have a good business, my top employees have been worth their weight in gold, wonderful people. But there will always be those that take the pee however well you treat them, which then affects the others.

There are two sides to every story, and unfortunately every employee and employer acts differently.

It's a minefield, I hate it, you can never get it right and you feel sorry for the good ones, when the others don't pull their weight

[Leeds Fox]

I personally can't understand why someone's boss can't be happy for an employee moving on to a better paid, more fulfilling job. Employees are replaceable, and a select few aren't, they either need a reason to want to stay, or be given the opportunity to progress within the company. It's all well and good being a loyal employee, but when a company needs to let someone go, they're ruthless.

I know if I got a job opportunity, with great prospects, an improved salary and just generally being one that I enjoy, my boss would be chuffed for me and do everything he could to make it a smooth move for me. He may be in charge of a department, but the organisation is not his, and he would see that I'm trying to improve myself and secure my future, not stab him in the back.

Also, some managers are in the positions they are in due to spending 'x' amount of time in a company, or just having a lucky break, and are no better than the workers themselves. They realise they aren't going to go any further and are lucky to be where they are, and just can't stand the thought of a younger, more talented indivual going on to do better things than they will ever achieve.

[pazzerfox]

I have a mate who was offered a new position and due to promises from his employer not being fulfilled he decided to accept the position and the pay rise.

Now, I've known him for a few years and he is as honest as they come. He provided his employer with more notice than what was required, spent weekends in the office to ensure a smooth transition and sacrificed evenings as well to complete big projects and get his employer a big pay day.

His employer in turn has been bad mouthing him and making underhand comments about his work to his fellow employees making things difficult for him to "enjoy" his last few weeks. Anyway, he managed to complete his time and this is now the coming to the end and his employer has stopped all forms of communication with him. He called me today to moan. I simply told him that you've done your time and your next step is far better than where you are. Let him have his sulk and move on.

The place, a good place to work a few years ago is now filled with lazy so and so being afforded liberties by his boss. He hasn't taken a holiday for nearly 18 months due to excessive work and covering for these lot. Even now there interest in taking work over is far from interested. The company has lost a lot of employees for similar reasons in the last year.

As an employer myself, I live by the Moto not to make my staff do something I couldn't. I have lost only one employee who got an excellent position at a market leading company.

Just wondering if anyone else has had awkward working environments or been treated poorly for

Trying to better themselves.

(P.s it made me laugh when he told his "good morning" was greeted by a grunt)

You own your own company?  Can I have a job please? 

[lavrentis]

I recently left for a new job. My boss offered me more money but I actually found that insulting, if he offered me more money whilst I still wanted to work there I might have stayed. Regular pay rises as an employee is a must tbh to keep you there.

 

I have noticed the stark difference between working for a manager who actually owns the business and working for a manager of a corporation. The latter of the two is much easier.

[Vicki Vixen]

Also, some managers are in the positions they are in due to spending 'x' amount of time in a company, or just having a lucky break, and are no better than the workers themselves. They realise they aren't going to go any further and are lucky to be where they are, and just can't stand the thought of a younger, more talented indivual going on to do better things than they will ever achieve.

 

This pretty much sums up my experience in my previous job.  I was working for the #1 ranked "best company to work for" in the Fortune, Forbes etc. rankings, but was unfortunate enough to have a manager who did exactly this - got into the company early in its development, promoted to a senior role because of their connections, then spent the whole time protecting their role by undermining everyone else and making sure anyone with any ambition was kept down or pushed out.

 

It shows its not just smaller businesses where this stuff happens.  Its important to distinguish though between a bad employer and a bad manager - every company has its shits, even the best ones.

[Itsthejoeker]

We've all had dickhead bosses at least once.

I had been employed by this company for around a year and due to the nature of my job and 0 hour contract I was able to be flexible about when I work. I heard there were hours in the week coming up and as I didn't like working all day on a Sunday I gave them 6 weeks notice to move me across. This was met with instant negativity and was told I was letting the company down.

I completed five of the six weeks when I was given an assistant to shadow how I work (my replacement). It later turned out that he had also been given the weekday hours as well as the sunday hours.

As I was quite friendly with some of the customers, they had informed me that the boss had been slagging me off and telling them all how much better my replacement was than me.

Haven't heard from her since I finished those last six weeks and she blanks me in the street. Bitch.

[Leeds Fox]

This pretty much sums up my experience in my previous job. I was working for the #1 ranked "best company to work for" in the Fortune, Forbes etc. rankings, but was unfortunate enough to have a manager who did exactly this - got into the company early in its development, promoted to a senior role because of their connections, then spent the whole time protecting their role by undermining everyone else and making sure anyone with any ambition was kept down or pushed out.

It shows its not just smaller businesses where this stuff happens. Its important to distinguish though between a bad employer and a bad manager - every company has its shits, even the best ones.

Yeah, and because many departments within companies are managed 'in house', it often doesn't make a difference if it's a large or small company.