The irony of the 'Pearson out' argument...

[Grewks]

The same people who rant on about Pearson getting the sack, are also constantly slagging a large number of our players.

 

 

I too have slagged our players off, famously on here for Nugent, who i admit was one of our more impressive performers today, I ain't got a problem with saying X/Y/Z played well, if they actually did.

 

 

But to slate pearson for our results, but to also slate our players claiming 'they are not good enough' is a bit ironic isn't it?

 

 

Considering he got this lot of useless B******s promoted last season, surely he deserves a contract extension not a sacking!

 

 

 

We are only one place in the league lower than we should be.....

[The Horse's Mouth]

He deserves a contract extension for picking the players everyone is ranting about? He's the manager, what else are they going to slate him for his trainers?

[JonnyBoy]

What the f::@k are you talking about?

[Webbo]

Pearson bought most of the players, trains them and selects them. If it's not his fault then whose is it?

[LCFC Rennie]

100% agree.

[Monsell1976]

Not really, he's the manager, who put this side together, goes back to having to much faith in the players from last season, but ultimately he has choosen to go into with the premier league with this squad.

He has to carry the can, sorry but that's the way I see it.

[Bayfox]

so our players aren't good enough?

signed mostly by nfp?

so they both aren't good enough?

so not so ironic right?

[JonnyBoy]

Just because he can cut it in the league below doesn't mean he can do it in the prem. no wins in 8, bottom of the league and ur talking about contract extensions? How does your head work

[jimmeh]

Would cost 5 million in compensation to sack pearson. Was on a million a year the first time he signed so must be on at least double that.

[Bettsj2]

There is absolutely no irony here whatsoever.

Just loads and loads of shit.

[Grewks]

He deserves a contract extension for picking the players everyone is ranting about? He's the manager, what else are they going to slate him for his trainers?

 

 

My point was one of irony....

 

 

If our players are so useless, with the likes of Schlupp no better than, and i quote from someone on here, 'Sunday League', then surely he deserved credit for the fact he even got us promoted last season?

[Kitchandro]

But I think the players are good enough to keep us up - used properly. So you're wrong there.

 

All the players are going though a bad patch but quite a few of them are  capable of playing much, much better. And, as a team, we are capable of overcoming the weaknesses.

 

For example, earlier in the season we conceded goals, but we scored them at the other end too. As a team, we were doing ok. Now, nobody is helping anyone out. As a team we are failing, that's more important than the individuals.

 

Also you have to factor ithat he's picking the wrong individuals in some cases and leaving better ones on the bench or out the squad completely. Like, Schlupp is useless, but I know he shouldn't even be in the squad and Knockaert should.

 

We've got better individuals than Burnley and QPR, and probably a couple of other teams. We've certainly got enough to compete, so it can only be down to Pearson that we're below some of these sides.

 

Being below Burnley and QPR really is inexcusable.

[DB11]

so our players aren't good enough?

signed mostly by nfp?

so they both aren't good enough?

so not so ironic right?

 

The same players that were good enough last season.... that's the irony.

 

If he'd signed a load of new players and we were in the position we were then I would agree but he hasn't.

[The Horse's Mouth]

My point was one of irony....

 

 

If our players are so useless, with the likes of Schlupp no better than, and i quote from someone on here, 'Sunday League', then surely he deserved credit for the fact he even got us promoted last season?

He got credit last season, when we were you know promoted. Hanging onto the past is not going to make the future any brighter. People are pissed and rightly so.

[Grewks]

There is absolutely no irony here whatsoever.

Just loads and loads of shit.

 

 

Now...let me lay this out for all the retards on here........

 

 

1. Nigel Pearson creates a side which masses our record points total in a season.

 

2. Side is promoted, but doing poorly.

 

3. Players are, in Schlupp's case, 'no better than sunday league', despite scoring more goals and creating more goals than Falcao.

 

4. Pearson praised for creating a side full of 'Sunday league' players which won the championship with 102 points, yet slated for behind 4 points behind 17th place with a side full of 'Sunday league' players.

 

 

 

Something isn't right with the logic.....The players cannot simply 'not be good enough' 12 months later, nor the manager.

 

We have no experience at this level....just look at how well the champions of the premier league have done in the champions league (their next level) without the experience.

[Grewks]

He got credit last season, when we were you know promoted. Hanging onto the past is not going to make the future any brighter. People are pissed and rightly so.

 

 

Being below Burnley....yes.

 

 

But being 1 position below expectation isn't a sackable offence in my opinion.

[Bettsj2]

Now...let me lay this out for all the retards on here........

1. Nigel Pearson creates a side which masses our record points total in a season.

2. Side is promoted, but doing poorly.

3. Players are, in Schlupp's case, 'no better than sunday league', despite scoring more goals and creating more goals than Falcao.

4. Pearson praised for creating a side full of 'Sunday league' players which won the championship with 102 points, yet slated for behind 4 points behind 17th place with a side full of 'Sunday league' players.

Something isn't right with the logic.....The players cannot simply 'not be good enough' 12 months later, nor the manager.

We have no experience at this level....just look at how well the champions of the premier league have done in the champions league (their next level) without the experience.

As another poster said, the players are capable just not performing.

Managers job to get them performing.

No irony. Just shit.

[Webbo]

 

 

 

 

Something isn't right with the logic.....The players cannot simply 'not be good enough' 12 months later, nor the manager.

 

We have no experience at this level....just look at how well the champions of the premier league have done in the champions league (their next level) without the experience.

Then why are we bottom?

[Grewks]

But I think the players are good enough to keep us up - used properly. So you're wrong there.

 

All the players are going though a bad patch but quite a few of them are  capable of playing much, much better. And, as a team, we are capable of overcoming the weaknesses.

 

For example, earlier in the season we conceded goals, but we scored them at the other end too. As a team, we were doing ok. Now, nobody is helping anyone out. As a team we are failing, that's more important than the individuals.

 

Also you have to factor ithat he's picking the wrong individuals in some cases and leaving better ones on the bench or out the squad completely. Like, Schlupp is useless, but I know he shouldn't even be in the squad and Knockaert should.

 

We've got better individuals than Burnley and QPR, and probably a couple of other teams. We've certainly got enough to compete, so it can only be down to Pearson that we're below some of these sides.

 

Being below Burnley and QPR really is inexcusable.

 

Totally disagree with you, with regards to both sides.

 

QPR's starting 18 from Saturday.....Green, Isla, Dunne, Caulker, Yun, Vargas, Barton, Henry, Fer, Zamora, Austin..............Ferdinand, Phillips, Onouha, Mccarthy, Mutch, Krancjar, Hoillet.

 

 

Those in bold are far better 'individuals' than we have, hence the majority have been capped internationally, some multiple times (Green, Isla, Dunne, Caulker, Ferdinand, Krancjar, Hoiller).

 

 

 

As for Burnley, their starting 18 had around 2-3 times the amount of premier league caps than our whole squad has.

Then why are we bottom?

 

 

Lack of experience....

 

it took us 12 months for the likes of vardy, knockaert, james, drinky to perform at the level below remember?

[Webbo]

 

 

 

Lack of experience....

 

it took us 12 months for the likes of vardy, knockaert, james, drinky to perform at the level below remember?

If they lack experience then they are not good enough.

[Grewks]

As another poster said, the players are capable just not performing.

Managers job to get them performing.

No irony. Just shit.

 

 

Now, if he was playing Wasilewski up top, vardy at full back and Cambiasso at center half then i would agree with you.

 

But they are all playing in their favoured positions.

 

In fact, all on here asked for a return to last seasons 4-4-2, since we did that, the results have been shocking, we ain't picked up a point.

[Grewks]

If they lack experience then they are not good enough.

 

 

So spend £100 million in the summer?

 

No.

 

James, de laet, moore, mahrez etc all have potential to play at this level.....

 

 

And none have 100 first team appearances.

[Grewks]

At the end of the day Pearson is a victim of his own success.

 

 

The squad he got promoted with was vastly inexperience, compared to both QPR and Burnley.

 

 

 

We have gone too far too soon since the departure of sven, and it has finally caught up with us.

 

Bringing in Pulis or Fergie isn't gonna change anything.

[Monsell1976]

Now...let me lay this out for all the retards on here........

1. Nigel Pearson creates a side which masses our record points total in a season.

2. Side is promoted, but doing poorly.

3. Players are, in Schlupp's case, 'no better than sunday league', despite scoring more goals and creating more goals than Falcao.

4. Pearson praised for creating a side full of 'Sunday league' players which won the championship with 102 points, yet slated for behind 4 points behind 17th place with a side full of 'Sunday league' players.

Something isn't right with the logic.....The players cannot simply 'not be good enough' 12 months later, nor the manager.

We have no experience at this level....just look at how well the champions of the premier league have done in the champions league (their next level) without the experience.

Your talking like everybody who is saying we are not good enough are saying 'Sunday league', firstly me personally think we are a very good championship side, and Pearson had a very good season last season, but that's the championship.

The premier league has shown a lot of our players are not, or not going to make the step up.

Again wether Pearson has put to much faith in their ability, is one the history books will show.

Ok your still positive, let's see your faith, which players are going to step up, and get us out of this slump, and listening to Pearson, he just laughed when he was asked how he was going to stop it, so when will he turn it around.

I have no problem with you being positive in this slump, but doesn't make people morons because the results are shit, and we look at a loss to sort it out, and stating the players are not premier league standard.

[Webbo]

So spend £100 million in the summer?

 

No.

 

James, de laet, moore, mahrez etc all have potential to play at this level.....

 

 

And none have 100 first team appearances.

Potential isn't enough. It's took us 10 years to get here and it might be another 10 years until we do again. Somethings got to change.