Statistically our best midfielder per 90 minute matches

[cc_star]

i did a bit of half arsed research to prove a point i don't really care about, and i could find leroy fer and graeme dorrans as the only two regular centre mids in the bottom 6 with more than 1 assist. in the modern game centre mids don't get many assists unless they are genuinely attack minded centre mids playing with the best strikers and taking all the set pieces. 

 

even going higher up the table;

 

steven gerrard: 22 apps (numerous set pieces) 1 assist.

aaron ramsey: 18 apps 2 assists. 

moussa dembele: 16 games 1 assist. 

ross barkley (the future of english football): 17 apps 1 assist. 

morgan schneiderlin: 17 apps 0 assists.

daley blind: 13 games 1 assist. 

yaya toure: 18 games 1 assist.

 

 

even one of the most technically genius central attacking players in the game today with one (or more) of the best strikers in the world right in front of him...

 

david silva: 19 games, 2 assists. 

 

Incredible

[ScouseFox]

Incredible

 

btw...

 

[Fatty Arbuckle]

As I said previously, there were other stats not worth mentioning that they have put as separates from the generic "forward passing" and "backward passing"

"Key passing" is considered separate from both of those, and there were a few others which adds up the total passes, but were not worth mentioning

But the 'total passes' figure is already less than forwards and backwards added together! If there were more categories to add them this makes their numbers out by even more. Not your fault I know, but just saying.

[ScouseFox]

i could probs play this game all day. one of the best cms from each of the top 5 european leagues.

 

 

it's not a centre mids job to assist very often. is the point i think i'm trying to make and having fun whilst doing so. 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

For me, regardless of stats, James is our best midfielder, you can see that with your bare eyes. He's versatile, can get forward and defends well also, has a bit of physicality, two-footed. Only weakness is his shooting, he has no composure

[cc_star]

btw...

 

 

Unbelievable!

[ScouseFox]

For me, regardless of stats, James is our best midfielder, you can see that with your bare eyes. He's versatile, can get forward and defends well also, has a bit of physicality, two-footed. Only weakness is his shooting, he has no composure

 

yeah basically this. stats can say what they like but james and cambiasso are the boys if we play a two, probably throw hammond in there if we go defensive with a three. nobody who's watched even ten minutes of us this season can try and claim drinkwater has performed better than any of our other centre mids. 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

yeah basically this. stats can say what they like but james and cambiasso are the boys if we play a two, probably throw hammond in there if we go defensive with a three. nobody who's watched even ten minutes of us this season can try and claim drinkwater has performed better than any of our other centre mids. 

Yep. Cambiasso should play and James is the only one capable of playing with him in a two. I'd like to see Hammond behind Cambs and James in a midfield 3 with Kram up front

[cityfanlee23]

i did a bit of half arsed research to prove a point i don't really care about, and i could find leroy fer and graeme dorrans as the only two regular centre mids in the bottom 6 with more than 1 assist. in the modern game centre mids don't get many assists unless they are genuinely attack minded centre mids playing with the best strikers and taking all the set pieces. 

 

even going higher up the table;

 

steven gerrard: 22 apps (numerous set pieces) 1 assist.

aaron ramsey: 18 apps 2 assists. 

moussa dembele: 16 games 1 assist. 

ross barkley (the future of english football): 17 apps 1 assist. 

morgan schneiderlin: 17 apps 0 assists.

daley blind: 13 games 1 assist. 

yaya toure: 18 games 1 assist.

 

 

even one of the most technically genius central attacking players in the game today with one (or more) of the best strikers in the world right in front of him...

 

david silva: 19 games, 2 assists. 

 

Please don't get me wrong, I agree with what you're saying, but you're comparing danny drinkwater with some of the best players in the division, whos game is almost complete all round, and what they don't make up in assists, they contribute by scoring. I think if you're going to argue that players don't do as much from the CM position, atleast look at their goals, or did you ignore that on purpose? 

 

steven gerrard: 22 apps (numerous set pieces) 1 assist. Playing as a Defensive Mid, Still scored 10 this season.

aaron ramsey: 18 apps 2 assists.  Scored 6 this season all comps

moussa dembele: 16 games 1 assist.   -  Should be scoring more

ross barkley (the future of english football): 17 apps 1 assist. - should be scoring more!!!

morgan schneiderlin: 17 apps 0 assists.  - Defensive Midfielder - scored 3 

daley blind: 13 games 1 assist.   - New team, Defensive Mid scored 2

yaya toure: 18 games 1 assist.     - 9 goals

David silva 19 games 2 assists 7 goals

[andog]

Although stats are great it doesn't highlight positioning very well. I think it would be hard to disagree that James and Cambiasso are our best pairing.

[ScouseFox]

Please don't get me wrong, I agree with what you're saying, but you're comparing danny drinkwater with some of the best players in the division, whos game is almost complete all round, and what they don't make up in assists, they contribute by scoring. I think if you're going to argue that players don't do as much from the CM position, atleast look at their goals, or did you ignore that on purpose?

you didn't include goals scored? and none of the comments were about goals scored?

[GingerrrFox]

Please don't get me wrong, I agree with what you're saying, but you're comparing danny drinkwater with some of the best players in the division, whos game is almost complete all round, and what they don't make up in assists, they contribute by scoring. I think if you're going to argue that players don't do as much from the CM position, atleast look at their goals, or did you ignore that on purpose? 

 

steven gerrard: 22 apps (numerous set pieces) 1 assist. Playing as a Defensive Mid, Still scored 10 this season.

aaron ramsey: 18 apps 2 assists.  Scored 6 this season all comps

moussa dembele: 16 games 1 assist.   -  Should be scoring more

ross barkley (the future of english football): 17 apps 1 assist. - should be scoring more!!!

morgan schneiderlin: 17 apps 0 assists.  - Defensive Midfielder - scored 3 

daley blind: 13 games 1 assist.   - New team, Defensive Mid scored 2

yaya toure: 18 games 1 assist.     - 9 goals

David silva 19 games 2 assists 7 goals

 

Hang on if we are adding goals scored to the equation then Cambiasso wins hands down.

[Guest Col city fan]

You don't have to be a statistician to see our midfield have been poor.

The goals scored and shots on target (amongst others) make depressive reading.

[Jimothy]

#cambiassoout 

 

come on man you never heard of a drinky special called the sideways pass

Only just noticed this . Sideways passes would add even more. The stats are saying his total passes are less than the sum of his forward and backward passes.

[cityfanlee23]

Hang on if we are adding goals scored to the equation then Cambiasso wins hands down.

 

What are you on about? Joining in with your bit again are you?

 

I've said time and time again the amount goals our midfield score isn't enough... so not sure what your comment is intended to achieve?

[cityfanlee23]

Only just noticed this . Sideways passes would add even more. The stats are saying his total passes are less than the sum of his forward and backward passes.

 

Fat fingers   Edited. 

[GingerrrFox]

What are you on about? Joining in with your bit again are you?

I've said time and time again the amount goals our midfield score isn't enough... so not sure what your comment is intended to achieve?

Slow down fella you started listing how many goals players like Yaya Toure, Aaron Ramsey etc had scored this season, saying and I quote;

" I think if you're going to argue that players don't do as much from the CM position, atleast look at their goals, or did you ignore that on purpose?"

So in view of that Cambiasso is the only central midfielder in our squad to score this season, in fact he's scored 2. So to quote yourself Lee, if you're going to argue that players don't do as much from the CM position, atleast look at their goals, or did you ignore that on purpose?

As stated Cambiasso is the only central midfielder we have to score, if you are saying not enough goals have come from our midfield then you have to put Cambiasso up there as one of our best options in that position.

[cityfanlee23]

Slow down fella you started listing how many goals players like Yaya Toure, Aaron Ramsey etc had scored this season, saying and I quote;

" I think if you're going to argue that players don't do as much from the CM position, atleast look at their goals, or did you ignore that on purpose?"

So in view of that Cambiasso is the only central midfielder in our squad to score this season, in fact he's scored 2. So to quote yourself Lee, if you're going to argue that players don't do as much from the CM position, atleast look at their goals, or did you ignore that on purpose?

As stated Cambiasso is the only central midfielder we have to score, if you are saying not enough goals have come from our midfield then you have to put Cambiasso up there as one of our best options in that position.

 

 

My argument was never at any point that our midfielders score enough was it?

 

But for someone to point out that CM's have a more secluded role and that they don't do as much in the modern game, then proceed to reel off a bunch of midfielders who also SCORE to contribute to their team, was kinda silly. 

 

I never once said cambiasso scored enough to make up for that.

 

Please can you find my statement that says otherwise.

Not one single Central midfielder has contributed directly enough for us. 

[GingerrrFox]

My argument was never at any point that our midfielders score enough was it?

 

But for someone to point out that CM's have a more secluded role and that they don't do as much in the modern game, then proceed to reel off a bunch of midfielders who also SCORE to contribute to their team, was kinda silly. 

 

I never once said cambiasso scored enough to make up for that.

 

Please can you find my statement that says otherwise.

Not one single Central midfielder has contributed directly enough for us. 

 

You clearly aren't grasping what I'm trying to express to you. You said that we aren't getting enough goals from midfield. So I said in that case Cambiasso has to be regarded as an instant starter because he's the only central midfielder we have that has scored this season. Both Cambiasso and Matty James are the only two who consistently, game after game, get in positions in which to shoot and score goals. That's why they are the best partnership we have and it's clear Nigel agrees with that statement, as when they are both available, they start together.

[MrSpaM]

Any chance you can sum it all up and do a topic on what is statistically our best team then? Pretty sure that is going to raise some eyebrows on here

[cityfanlee23]

Any chance you can sum it all up and do a topic on what is statistically our best team then? Pretty sure that is going to raise some eyebrows on here

I daren't

Edit: I'll do it tonight probably

[Guest Col city fan]

I daren't

Edit: I'll do it tonight probably

Yeah that sounds good.

Some of us will be surprised. Others I imagine, won't.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

I'm sure this has probably been said, but the assists thing probably isn't the midfielders fault, the amount of chances our strikers have spunked away won't help them.

THIS

There is not going to be many assists from CM midfield when Vardy and Nugent have 2 between them. We all know many, many chances have been missed throughout the season from many, many that have been created.

Add to that Ulloa's goals tend to come from crosses.

For me the 'Assists' stats therefore are misleading.