Negativity

[Guest ttfn]

Over the past three weeks, the following sentiments have emerged from many people:

1) Fryatt is rubbish. Drop him. - Yes let's drop our top scorer and bring in a half-fit Dickov or Campbell who's disappeared off the face of the earth ala Elvis.

2) Nigel Pearson needs to go - I can not believe anybody said this. But some have. We are unbeaten in 8! It's the constant chopping and changing of managers that has got us in this state.

3) Kisnorbo is not as good as Hobbs - This has been proven to be balls in the last couple of week. Officially our second best performer last season and the most consistent performer in the squad since he went to centre back. Yet people get on his back about 'hoof-ball'. One of the best centre backs in the championship but for some, he is not good enough to get in a league one side as he is 'overrated'. Bollocks he is. Underrated if anything.

The impatience and fickle nature of some people on this forum is absolutely flabberghasting.

[Granno]

Over the past three weeks, the following sentiments have emerged from many people:

1) Fryatt is rubbish. Drop him. - Yes let's drop our top scorer and bring in a half-fit Dickov or Campbell who's disappeared off the face of the earth ala Elvis.

2) Nigel Pearson needs to go - I can not believe anybody said this. But some have. We are unbeaten in 8! It's the constant chopping and changing of managers that has got us in this state.

3) Kisnorbo is not as good as Hobbs - This has been proven to be balls in the last couple of week. Officially our second best performer last season and the most consistent performer in the squad since he went to centre back. Yet people get on his back about 'hoof-ball'. One of the best centre backs in the championship but for some, he is not good enough to get in a league one side as he is 'overrated'. Bollocks he is. Underrated if anything.

The impatience and fickle nature of some people on this forum is absolutely flabberghasting.

But we're too big for league 1

[Father Ted]

Over the past three weeks, the following sentiments have emerged from many people:

1) Fryatt is rubbish. Drop him. - Yes let's drop our top scorer and bring in a half-fit Dickov or Campbell who's disappeared off the face of the earth ala Elvis.

2) Nigel Pearson needs to go - I can not believe anybody said this. But some have. We are unbeaten in 8! It's the constant chopping and changing of managers that has got us in this state.

3) Kisnorbo is not as good as Hobbs - This has been proven to be balls in the last couple of week. Officially our second best performer last season and the most consistent performer in the squad since he went to centre back. Yet people get on his back about 'hoof-ball'. One of the best centre backs in the championship but for some, he is not good enough to get in a league one side as he is 'overrated'. Bollocks he is. Underrated if anything.

The impatience and fickle nature of some people on this forum is absolutely flabberghasting.

May I also add Howard to number 1 aswell People need to get off his back!

[Jimmy]

Over the past three weeks, the following sentiments have emerged from many people:

1) Fryatt is rubbish. Drop him. - Yes let's drop our top scorer and bring in a half-fit Dickov or Campbell who's disappeared off the face of the earth ala Elvis.

2) Nigel Pearson needs to go - I can not believe anybody said this. But some have. We are unbeaten in 8! It's the constant chopping and changing of managers that has got us in this state.

3) Kisnorbo is not as good as Hobbs - This has been proven to be balls in the last couple of week. Officially our second best performer last season and the most consistent performer in the squad since he went to centre back. Yet people get on his back about 'hoof-ball'. One of the best centre backs in the championship but for some, he is not good enough to get in a league one side as he is 'overrated'. Bollocks he is. Underrated if anything.

The impatience and fickle nature of some people on this forum is absolutely flabberghasting.

1) he's playing crap and people are wanting more competition

2) Ash17 is saying that

3) Hobbs IS a better footballer then Kisnorbo and how can Kisnorbo have proved anything in what amounts to just under 2 full games of football since his return from injury?

[Guest ttfn]

1) he's playing crap and people are wanting more competition

2) only Ultra and Ash17 are saying that

3) Hobbs IS a better footballer then Kisnorbo and how can Kisnorbo have proved anything in what amounts to just under 2 full games of football since his return from injury?

Anyone who's watched a game of football could tell you that being a better footballer doesn't make you a better defender. Is Ronaldo a better defender than Vidic? No. But Vidic is a better defender. I appreciate that that is a ridiculous example but to me, the notion that Hobbs is better than Kisnorbo and should be in the side ahead of him is absolutely ludicrous.

[Ultra]

1) he's playing crap and people are wanting more competition

2) only Ultra and Ash17 are saying that

3) Hobbs IS a better footballer then Kisnorbo and how can Kisnorbo have proved anything in what amounts to just under 2 full games of football since his return from injury?

I've been mildly sceptical about Pearson, nothing more. Show me ONE post where I have demanded he should go.

It's a sad state of affairs that any City manager who manages to string a couple of wins together (no matter how weak the opposition might be) is instantly hailed as the new O'Neill/Clough/Ferguson, and anyone who points out flaws is burnt at the stake.

[Jimmy]

Anyone who's watched a game of football could tell you that being a better footballer doesn't make you a better defender. Is Ronaldo a better defender than Vidic? No. But Vidic is a better defender. I appreciate that that is a ridiculous example but to me, the notion that Hobbs is better than Kisnorbo and should be in the side ahead of him is absolutely ludicrous.

people aren't saying that, simply that Hobbs has done so well that Kisnorbo shouldn't just walk back in, however now he's back, IF he can continue to make the simple 5 yard passes to team mates, once Gilbert is back I'd stick with Kisnorbo

I've been mildly sceptical about Pearson, nothing more. Show me ONE post where I have demanded he should go.

It's a sad state of affairs that any City manager who manages to string a couple of wins together (no matter how weak the opposition might be) is instantly hailed as the new O'Neill/Clough/Ferguson, and anyone who points out flaws is burnt at the stake.

sorry but your comments have gotten lumped in with his tonight, I hadn't realised you didn't want him sacked

[Guest ttfn]

people aren't saying that, simply that Hobbs has done so well that Kisnorbo shouldn't just walk back in, however now he's back, IF he can continue to make the simple 5 yard passes to team mates, once Gilbert is back I'd stick with Kisnorbo

They aren't saying that. They said that. I have never seen the word 'over-rated' used so often.

[dandannieldanok]

It's a sad state of affairs that any City manager who manages to string a couple of wins together (no matter how weak the opposition might be) is instantly hailed as the new O'Neill/Clough/Ferguson, and anyone who points out flaws is burnt at the stake.

Agree with that, why people feel the need to be all high and mighty and demand eternal positivity is beyond me, especially after today's abject mess.

[Guest ttfn]

Agree with that, why people feel the need to be all high and mighty and demand eternal positivity is beyond me, especially after today's abject mess.

WE'RE 4TH WITH A GAME IN HAND!!!!!

[dandannieldanok]

WE'RE 4TH WITH A GAME IN HAND!!!!!

That doesn't detract from the fact the last two performances have been poor, and that's being generous. I'm sorry if I'm not on cloud nine but we're still paying top-end championship prices for really lacklustre entertainment. I don't want free-flowing Brazil-type football, but some commitment wouldn't go a miss.

[syston_fox]

WE'RE 4TH WITH A GAME IN HAND!!!!!

Let's not cling onto that game in hand. We did that last season and let it justify our poor position.... and then we lost it!

[davieG]

May I also add Howard to number 1 aswell People need to get off his back!

A bit like you and Martin then

[shen]

I've been mildly sceptical about Pearson, nothing more. Show me ONE post where I have demanded he should go.

It's a sad state of affairs that any City manager who manages to string a couple of wins together (no matter how weak the opposition might be) is instantly hailed as the new O'Neill/Clough/Ferguson, and anyone who points out flaws is burnt at the stake.

Frankly, I've not seen anyone hailing Pearson to those levels at all. All I've seen is some praise that he apparently banished some demons since he took over and brought in some useful players that've made an impact.

Personally, I don't mind a critical view of Pearson, but reading your initial post in the NP thread, one would think that NP is doomed to fail. It wouldn't hurt to take a more balanced approach to get a point across

[Joe.]

I think we're just seeing two extreme sides of things.

It's not right to say that we shouldn't be critical at all whatsoever of the team - the last two performances have warranted criticism. Our team's not perfect - we all have aspects of it that we don't like; some choose to voice these more than others, but if that's how they feel so be it.

At the same time I think some people have some very over-dramatic opinions.

[Wezleylowski]

Over the past three weeks, the following sentiments have emerged from many people:

1) Fryatt is rubbish. Drop him. - Yes let's drop our top scorer and bring in a half-fit Dickov or Campbell who's disappeared off the face of the earth ala Elvis.

Fryatt IS gash. He gets about 6-7 half chances a game that he misses, then he scores one at the end of the game and he is god again. Any decent striker would score 2 or 3 of the chances Fryatt gets a game and we would steam roller everyone in this division. We still can't kill games off because our 2 frontmen are wank. Howard is the worst striker I have ever seen in a Leicester shirt and it disgusts me every time I see him in one. The back 4 are excellent though really can't fault them Gilbert, Kissa, Tunchev, Mattock are very good. It just makes me angry watching that useless donkey Howard wasting precious chances week in week out and being praised for it.

[Manwell Pablo]

Fryatt IS gash. He gets about 6-7 half chances a game that he misses, then he scores one at the end of the game and he is god again. Any decent striker would score 2 or 3 of the chances Fryatt gets a game and we would steam roller everyone in this division. We still can't kill games off because our 2 frontmen are wank. Howard is the worst striker I have ever seen in a Leicester shirt and it disgusts me every time I see him in one. The back 4 are excellent though really can't fault them Gilbert, Kissa, Tunchev, Mattock are very good. It just makes me angry watching that useless donkey Howard wasting precious chances week in week out and being praised for it.

Next time Liverpool are playing please watch Fernando Torres and count how many half chances he misses. All strikers miss chances, lots of them. It's how many they put away that counts.

Not that I'm defending his performance today he was woeful, worst I've seen him play for a long time. Greedy, unconvincing, no composure.

[Daggers]

WE'RE 4TH WITH A GAME IN HAND!!!!!

I'm a half-full guy by nature - in fact, if you look at my gut you'll see I'm more than that. And yet it would take an optimist of lobotomised proportions to ignore our current dip in form.

Fryatt has proved that when he slides, he plummets...and although I felt he was decent at Oldham he was nothing short of shocking today. My brother, a Cobblers fan, laughed so hard whenever he got the ball (although his loudest belly laugh was saved for King's "shot" at the Family End).

Pearson either has given up on anyone outside the first XI or he is starting to exhibit a paucity of tactical nouse - today was a prime example of someone unable to rouse a team or make key changes.

Our performances this season haven't been gripping, our players have ceased to play with bollocks and we look suspect to any team who come at us - this isn't a reason for daft whining...but reasoned criticism should be expected and to demand blind faith and optimism is nothing short of nonsense.

[Guest ttfn]

Fryatt IS gash. He gets about 6-7 half chances a game that he misses, then he scores one at the end of the game and he is god again. Any decent striker would score 2 or 3 of the chances Fryatt gets a game and we would steam roller everyone in this division. We still can't kill games off because our 2 frontmen are wank. Howard is the worst striker I have ever seen in a Leicester shirt and it disgusts me every time I see him in one. The back 4 are excellent though really can't fault them Gilbert, Kissa, Tunchev, Mattock are very good. It just makes me angry watching that useless donkey Howard wasting precious chances week in week out and being praised for it.

That is one of the most cretinous things I've ever read. How does Fryatt get the chances? It doesn't happen by coincidence. He doesn't happen to get in the right places. It's his movement that gets him there. Andy Cole missed a hatful of chances notoriously and was still signed for £7 million twice. The reason? Because he carried on scoring regardless. Some strikers miss loads of chances but score wherever they go because their movement is good enough to create chances for themselves. Other players wouldn't get into the positions that Fryatt does.

The whole post is garbage from start to finish with a brief pause to praise the defence. Steve Howard was poor last season - get over it. I bet you're one of the morons who got on Mark de Vries' back at the start of last season. A de Vries-esque resurgence is taking place with Howard and your caged and inflexible attitude towards him helps no-one.

[Wezleylowski]

That is one of the most cretinous things I've ever read. How does Fryatt get the chances? It doesn't happen by coincidence. He doesn't happen to get in the right places. It's his movement that gets him there. Andy Cole missed a hatful of chances notoriously and was still signed for £7 million twice. The reason? Because he carried on scoring regardless. Some strikers miss loads of chances but score wherever they go because their movement is good enough to create chances for themselves. Other players wouldn't get into the positions that Fryatt does.

The whole post is garbage from start to finish with a brief pause to praise the defence. Steve Howard was poor last season - get over it. I bet you're one of the morons who got on Mark de Vries' back at the start of last season. A de Vries-esque resurgence is taking place with Howard and your caged and inflexible attitude towards him helps no-one.

Haha Fryatts finishing is abysmal in my opinion and we would be wise to get rid of both him and Howard if we wish to stay in the championship if we get promoted. He can't even finish 1 on 1's for fux sake. I have never booed any of our players and never would but if i wish to voice my opinion on a public forum i fooking well will. I do like Fryatt as a player and would love him to do well but his finishing is not up to scratch in my eyes. And as for Howard he is a donkey, he might win alot of balls in the air but he doesn't have a clue where there going to bounce off to.

[shen]

That is one of the most cretinous things I've ever read. How does Fryatt get the chances? It doesn't happen by coincidence. He doesn't happen to get in the right places. It's his movement that gets him there. Andy Cole missed a hatful of chances notoriously and was still signed for £7 million twice. The reason? Because he carried on scoring regardless. Some strikers miss loads of chances but score wherever they go because their movement is good enough to create chances for themselves. Other players wouldn't get into the positions that Fryatt does.

The whole post is garbage from start to finish with a brief pause to praise the defence. Steve Howard was poor last season - get over it. I bet you're one of the morons who got on Mark de Vries' back at the start of last season. A de Vries-esque resurgence is taking place with Howard and your caged and inflexible attitude towards him helps no-one.

According to Wikipedia, he's now scored 19 goals in 91 appearances in the league for us. That is a quite poor scoring record...

[Guest ttfn]

Haha Fryatts finishing is abysmal in my opinion and we would be wise to get rid of both him and Howard if we wish to stay in the championship if we get promoted. He can't even finish 1 on 1's for fux sake. I have never booed any of our players and never would but if i wish to voice my opinion on a public forum i fooking well will. I do like Fryatt as a player and would love him to do well but his finishing is not up to scratch in my eyes. And as for Howard he is a donkey, he might win alot of balls in the air but he doesn't have a clue where there going to bounce off to.

Calm down. I didn't dispute your right to voice your opinion. I just said that somebody who agreed with you was dramatically over-reacting.

[Trav Le Bleu]

We don't get 3 points on Tuesday at the Seagulls - then I'll start worrying.

As long as City (home at least) fans are a bunch of moaning, over-demanding, sit on their bums, lip sealed majority, then we will have poor performances at home. It's a viscious circle - like straining water through your diarrhoea undies.

Actually, thats a good simile. <_<

[clazkel]

That is one of the most cretinous things I've ever read. How does Fryatt get the chances? It doesn't happen by coincidence. He doesn't happen to get in the right places. It's his movement that gets him there. Andy Cole missed a hatful of chances notoriously and was still signed for £7 million twice. The reason? Because he carried on scoring regardless. Some strikers miss loads of chances but score wherever they go because their movement is good enough to create chances for themselves. Other players wouldn't get into the positions that Fryatt does.

The whole post is garbage from start to finish with a brief pause to praise the defence. Steve Howard was poor last season - get over it. I bet you're one of the morons who got on Mark de Vries' back at the start of last season. A de Vries-esque resurgence is taking place with Howard and your caged and inflexible attitude towards him helps no-one.

Great post, thats what i have been trying to get across for ages, when people are saying drop Fryatt coz he misses lots of chances and play someone else who will put the chances away, will they get in the positions that Fryatt does, probabaly not. Fryatt is a creative player who makes decent runs and normally creates his chances for himself. I think he would do better up front if he had another striker up front with him who was also creative and makes decent runs. He seems to play better when he links up with players, thats why i like it when Adams plays as i think he links up with Fryatt well. I don't have anything against Howard, i think he has played really well this season so far, but i think Fryatt will look a better player if hes playing alongside Hayles or Dickov, or maybe Dyer will get a chance!

[Wezleylowski]

Calm down. I didn't dispute your right to voice your opinion. I just said that somebody who agreed with you was dramatically over-reacting.

Yeah sorry mate. I just didn't appreciate being called a cretin because my opinion differs from your own thats all. And as for Fryatt if he rediscovers the form he was in at the start of the season then great but if he doesn't then I wouldn't be preared to give him any longer. Holloway paid the ultimate price last season for sticking with the same strike force and hoping it would come good. Lets hope the same doesn't happen to Pearson.