Kitchandro

The problem is that vocally vitriolic fans are in the minority and have been drowned out every time. We’ve been asking for it to be ‘toxic’ since we wanted Rodgers sacked in 2022. It never happens. Besides, so what if the players get a bit of abuse, they don’t care. They’re too rich to care. I’ve always been a fan of protests outside the ground before during and after the game. It gets media attention, has the potential to disrupt something (traffic, entry / exit) and means you can have loads of empty seats still. We will never make progress because the fanbase is so split though. A phoenix club might solve that.

Where has this rule come from that you can’t judge people for their actions? People are allowed to do what they like, and other people are allowed to say it’s embarrassing behaviour that deserves to be ridiculed. The shoe is on the other foot now. People aren’t just going to let it go. And to anyone who says going doesn’t make you complicit: nonsense. Boycotts and disruptive protests attract the interest of the media, that causes pressure on individuals and humiliation for the ownership. For an owner who only cares about his money and his reputation, that would have made a difference.

I said it would be nice, I know it’s not going to happen.

That’s the lowest finish, not the worst season. ‘Worst’ is subjective but I’d say unprecedented failure and lack of entertainment value relative to the division makes it quite obviously the worst. It’s definitely the most hateful Leicester team of all time, and none of the regular players or managers should ever be forgiven.

Put this on the other thread only semi-seriously but it would be nice if the fans turned up and blocked the entrances so none of the players could get in. Forcing the game to be abandoned has to be the only reason to turn up. Blackpool did that under Oyston. Chants are utterly irrelevant and unsuitable for the situation.

I don’t think we can say any rot set in this season, we were doomed well before. The players never had the will and all the infrastructure and culture at the club has been causing problems for years. You could see from the first game of the season that we were a poor side. I had issues with the ownership before Top was in charge, including some pitiful managerial appointments, but on the pitch we generally got away with it and / or thrived in spite of that. Still, you could argue Puel, with his negative possession football and playing down of the club’s potential, was an early warning sign of what was to come. Interesting to see most people finally agreeing that the culture under Rodgers was the most destructive thing. Yes, sorry to repeat it but it was obvious to some at the time. Pandering to managers who are clearly in it for themselves only erodes the spirit of the club, that spread to the fans, and the standards withered away. We had so much talent in that squad, and we were convinced no manager could do any better. Meanwhile he was dismantling it systematically and psychologically. I’d argue finishing 5th in 2020 should have been a red flag. The players underperformed, showed no fight, had a second-half of the season collapse, played the ball around the back with no urgency. These things, along with the awful recruitment that began under Rodgers and Congerton, are the most significant in our demise, and they’ve happened in every season since, even under Maresca when, again, we got away with it. We have been mentally weak, tactically inept and financially reckless to the extreme since that time. It’s a habit, a culture and a mindset. Top treated Rodgers like he was a saviour, like we were a nothing club, he gave him all the power until it was obvious he’d pissed it up the wall and we couldn’t afford to trust him again. Everyone, including the fans, started to believe the narrative that Rodgers made a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. It became a self-fulfilling prophecy. Now we clap getting relegated to League One. There was never enough pressure on the hierarchy to make changes. To sack Rodgers, to sack Rudkin, to sell the club That comes from the media, but it starts with the fans getting the message across to the point where the media find it interesting enough to latch on to. Anyway, if we start a phoenix club, it should be based on the idea that no one is bigger than the club.

Need to resurrect the phoenix club idea. And it should be made clear that no one who has anything to do with King Power is to be mentioned ever again.

Like I said earlier, I’ve no sympathy with anyone who has attended this.

This club is the epitome of ‘couldn’t hit water if we fell out of a boat’. Everyone we hire or sign, you know they are going to be awful. And yet they manage to perform below your very low expectations.

Why even wait? Block the stadium entrance so they can’t get in.

Even worse! 😂

I’ve got no sympathy with any of these people for the performances they are being subjected to.

Sod that. Why shouldn’t people say ‘I told you so’? I’m another one over the years who has been shouted down and ridiculed for questioning King Power. Is there a specific post from me complaining about the statue? Probably not, because if I had written one it would have been deleted. And I’m absolutely not exaggerating in the slightest there. But I can tell you for an absolute fact I was always against the kits, the statue, the trophy hogging, the stadium rebrand, the clappers. These things should have made people uncomfortable or concerned. I have been critical of most of the managerial appointments. Now our club is dead, football is dead, and despite seeing it coming, some of us had to watch it die whilst people like yourself told us we were making a big deal out of nothing. Well like societies, clubs erode gradually. I’ve had to take the stick, if people don’t like being told that we told you so, I couldn’t care less. We’re not a fanbase anymore, we’re just a bunch of people on an internet forum, and your regular condescension doesn’t wash anymore because you’re in the minority. There was no solidarity when it was needed, you can’t appeal to it now.

I don’t usually bother with the player threads but I really can’t stand this guy. Clearly doesn’t take his well paid job seriously at all. There’s so many clips of him strolling around, not sprinting to close shots down, etc. Prime example of a bad egg in a squad of bad eggs.

With all due respect, their careers are secondary to the club’s future. It’s worth the risk of knocking their confidence to salvage our Championship status. Otherwise they shouldn’t have been signed to professional contracts.

Fixed it for you. Does that wording make you feel more comfortable admitting they were all terrible?

Nope. He wasn’t the only person who died that night so it’s a moot argument for the statue. it’s not a small shrine in the memorial garden. It’s a giant statue at the main entry point of the ground. It’s the thing everyone sees when they visit it, a position where most clubs put their biggest legend. There are no ethical billionaires so I’m not interested in the posts suggesting it was his club or that he was some sort of hero for the club just because he wasn’t Aiyawatt. Being a more competent owner does not give you a right to be idolised and take credit for the club’s on field successes, which were a triumph of good scouting and tactics at the end of the day. It’s not just about Top himself, it’s the principle of the club having some pride in itself as a local sports team, not pride in businessmen that run a business.

The squad did not need a refresh because we lost to Forest. The squad needed maintenance the same as any other squad does, but there was never any excuse for being hammered by a Championship team in a local derby. Rodgers’ argument that we needed an overhaul because that group of players wasn’t good enough to beat Forest was obviously untrue and was obviously a lie spun by him to save his job. That was obvious on the day and it’s obvious now. Frankly, Rodgers apologists are even worse that KP apologists. I’m done with anyone who defends him.

What part of us wasting all our money on his signings, only for us to fall below our targets, don’t you understand? Whether you think it’s because his signings were awful, or whether you think it’s because his tactics didn’t make the most of the squad he inherited, his failure to achieve Champions League football and the subsequent relegation under his management was obviously a major cause of us now going down to League One because both cost us so much money on wages and lost revenue. He’s undoubtedly the manager most at fault for our demise. Plus, he was a horrible bloke who disrespected the club at every turn. Why on earth would feel the need to defend him?

Rodgers was the most destructive manager we’ve ever had. That’s why Top was wrong for having faith in him. He had the best squad we’ve ever had, one that absolutely should have finished 3rd twice. He was allowed to bring his own scout and players in, which is what ruined us most of all. The money we spent under him was disastrous. Worst of all, the club’s lack of self-respect stems from Rodgers. Before Top was god, people like you were idolising Brendan instead of calling for the sacking which would have saved us. He should have gone the moment we were hammered by Forest in the cup. What other club would accept that sort of thrashing from a lower league local rival, and then him talking down about us?

The suggestion from some that the players are bad so the manager can’t possibly make bad decisions shows a complete lack of nuanced critical thinking. The owner we all hate employed them all so no idea why slating the manager is considered a defence of the owner or the players. Nobody should escape the scathing criticism. They’re all earning far too much money.

There’s an element of that in the spending, yes. But the managers were not interested in ambition or standards, they constantly talked the club down. As soon as we started to underachieve, Top was telling us to be grateful. We never appointed serious managers with potential, just losers on the cheap. The players weren’t committed or good enough, and none of these people were hounded out by the fans. The fans were complicit. I’m not talking about relegation or financial collapse. The death of the club, for me, is in years of self-hatred and acceptance of disrespect. I can never say we’re a big club anymore because our own fans loved KPFC so much and LCFC so little.

Regardless of whether we go out of business, I can never say with a straight face that we are a serious club ever again. Plenty of big clubs have gone down to League One and retained their pride, traditions and identity. They’ve continued to maintain that their club is a big, proud club massively underachieving. Sheff Wednesday, Leeds, Southampton, Norwich, etc. Forest even. Forest constantly overrate themselves FFS. I’d do anything to have arrogant fans like Forest rather than cucks. Being a proud club is about adamantly talking yourselves up. None of those clubs get huge crowds compared to us, none of them consistently compete in the top flight, none of them win trophies. But they don’t accept anyone telling them they aren’t massive. It’s more than just what division we’re in, it’s the attitude of us as a club. We haven’t got one. We’re dead, we can never be proud of our club again because everyone involved in it from players to managers to owners to fans said we’re a small club. And nobody corrected them.

I’d be ashamed if I was paying to watch them every week, because that would be a personal choice to let low lives take advantage of me. If I still felt associated with what the club is, rather than what the club was, maybe I’d be angry. But there’s nothing left to be ashamed of or angry at. When we went down in 2008 I was gutted and embarrassed, we’d lost our record and given every other fan the right to laugh at us. But this time, not so much. Because that happened years ago. It happened when we allowed the likes of Puel and Rodgers to drag the club’s name through the mud without being sacked on the spot. It happened when our own fans started calling us a small club, a championship club, lucky to be in the top 5, then lucky to be in the top half, then lucky to be in the prem, then lucky to have King Power. I don’t associate with these people. You should acknowledge you’re better than the majority of our fanbase and let go. I’m no more than disappointed. This was inevitable because this is where our club believes it should be. No club with our amount of fans should believe it’s outside the top 20 clubs in this country but our fans did. They deserve this.

A win for the everyman, the little guy, as usual! It’s miraculous how the biggest owner and trainer with a huge proportion of the runners have managed to dominate the placings. ’The people’s race’ 😂