Kitchandro

A lot of people talking about the contracts, but it isn’t that, It’s the character of the players. Unlike under Pearson, we are not buying players with a strong, professional mentality. The bad attitude has been here for several seasons now, hence why we threw away two top 4 finishes and lose almost every crunch game.

Yeh but that’s not what has happened here. We’ve had people who have had reasonable foresight and genuine worry being ridiculed by some who act like they are cleverer than they are. So yeh, they are entitled to embarrass some of those people 🙂

People will justify clapping them by saying ‘I am appreciating what a great 9 years we have had’. Or some nonsense.

Yeh as much as he carried us in the first half of the season, he’s been as bad as anyone now it’s come to crunch time. He thinks it’s all about him. Holds onto the ball for ages when we need to make quick forward passes. He thinks winning free kicks is good, but it isn’t because his and his teammates’ delivery is poor and our best chance of scoring is to move it quickly before the defence can get set. I’m not going to scapegoat him, but he’s always been difficult to like and it’s easy to see why. He gets worse the more the pressure is on, and thinks that throwing himself on the floor will get him out of a hole he’s dug for himself.

Sums us up at the end. Get gifted enough goals to be at 5-3, 6 minutes left, and we show no urgency to get 2 despite having enough time. Totally spineless and so are the fans clapping us off.

Yes, but this is the team he built.

This is what happens when you have a ‘nice’ football club. No backbone anywhere from the board downwards. We’ve spent the last few seasons buying players with no character and once again it shows.

We don’t do the basics. Marking, tackling, organisation. There is nothing.

We are the bottlers down there. Historically we don’t handle pressure. Everton battered us the other night, showed spirit and the desire to win the game from the off; whilst we looked terrified, highlighted by our negative line-up and missing penalties. Forest have a couple of fixtures against sides in equally poor form. We’ve had all our easier fixtures/6 pointers. Leeds will have a new manager bounce. We wasted ours with our first game being Man City away and those 2 poor losses without a manager. With some teams being on the beach, and others needing results, there is bound to be the odd unlikely result. But based on our team selections and bottling nature, we look the least likely to get one of those. And it’s to do with us being too frightened of losing.

Wrong setup and bottling it. Why on earth has Ndidi been picked over Daka when we need to win.

Some of the posts on this forum are completely deluded. It’s going down to the last game. Since we didn’t beat Leeds, we have to beat Everton to give ourselves a chance. The chances of us going into the last game of the season already safe are extremely slim. 4 of the 5 teams are we have to play simply better than we are.

I don’t agree. You can be absolutely awful and 3 teams just happen to be even worse. The league isn’t the same quality every year. You can stay up on a lucky refereeing decision that earns 2 points. We deserve to go down for our incompetence and lack of basic self-preservation. The only thing that saves us is other teams being just as or more pathetic. If we’re lucky. Of course we could win 4 games and deserve to stay up, but there aren’t many signs to suggest we’ll win more than 1.

I repeat. Last night was a shocking result. Other teams will grind a result or 2 out on pure spirit, we don’t have it. We don’t beat teams we should beat, let alone those who are better than us.

Yeh, except ‘we’ do not win enough games. If we couldn’t beat Leeds, who are we likely to beat? Does anyone seriously think beating Everton alone is enough? A lot of people thought that was funny last night. I’m sure there’s some squirming going on now.

Terrible result. That was our easiest game. Now Iheanacho-less, could be in the bottom 3 before the next one. Even if we beat Everton, we now have to beat at least one of the teams we can’t really expect to beat.

I can see us setting up cautiously in this, if we do I think we’ll lose. For as long as I can remember this tactic hasn’t worked for us. considering the last few fixtures, we really need to win this and Everton.

I don’t see this at all, the only reason he’s considered a ‘leader’ is because Rodgers said he was. Well we all know what that means - he was a yes man. People like Rodgers elevate followers. We don’t have any leaders, so let’s not pick out of form players.

That was the season before. Mills was playing for us in 2011 and was shocking.

They’ve never been real football fans though. Footballers today are no different to social media influencers, chasing the fame and success but not passionate about the sport. They don’t appear to be able to empathise with football fans of any age. They are so far removed from normal society.

Encouraging 2nd half. Yeh Man City took their foot off the gas, but we pressed them and if Maddison scores that good chance we’d have had a grandstand finish. Ndidi’s mistakes keep costing us, Souttar and KDH both look really poor and I would like to see 2 up front against weaker sides. For all that they blow hot and cold, yesterday was more evidence that we need to start Iheanacho and Soyuncu, and that the treatment of them from Rodgers was extremely poor. Hopeful if not confident about the Wolves game. It needs to be our West Ham from 2015.

No it isn’t, football is not brain surgery. It’s a very simple game and footballers rarely have a clue about tactics, because playing the game is not the same as watching the game and watching the game is not the same as being able to think about the game. If anything, clubs would be better off avoiding ex-pros and appointing managers based on their intelligence and personality. A coach teaches technique, a manager’s main jobs are psychology and tactics. If you’ve watched enough football, you can be a football manager.

IF it’s only interim, then fine. I don’t want him, but Smith on a short contract is preferable to any of our current options on a long contract. If the plan is to make the best of what we’ve got until the summer and then appoint someone better, with a better style of football and a bit of ambition, then maybe they are finally getting it. Again though, I doubt they will get that decision right as they seem bent on only appointing has-beens with Premier League experience. I always said going down was the price I was willing to pay to see the back of Rodgers. I’m still happy to pay that price to have a longer term possibility of attempting to play good attacking football with potential. Rafa for 2 years is a waste of everyone’s time.

But not for managers with less reputation looking to make a name for themselves. If you only appoint on reputation, without looking into their philosophy and character, of course you are going to have limited options. If Burnley can get someone like Kompany, who has smashed it, why not us?

He also gave Shakespeare too long when it was clear he wasn’t good enough, wasting the following season.

Let’s be honest, the club will not do a short term appointment. If we stay up, that appointment will be considered a saviour and given a long contract. So the likes of Rafa, Allardyce etc, are still a disaster. We’ll be stuck with someone no good for us for ages again. At best, a miserable existence of more boring football that isn’t worth watching and does not get the best out of either our players or English football. At worst, that manager will be sacked part way through the next season, with us once again struggling and unattractive to the next manager. The same mistakes again. More than anything, I just don’t want to see negative, passionless football anymore. If we go down, so be it. The only good appointment would be a younger foreign manager who hasn’t been proven a failure in England. In other words, someone with potential who hasn’t already been picked up by a bigger club and would see us as an attractive gamble. That won’t happen, they haven’t done their research. They’ve never heard of those managers. So I think it’s bad times until we get new ownership. We’ve well and truly blown it.