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I’ve got a feeling it will be 7 points, whether negotiated down from 10, who knows, but be surprised if any less than that. Relegation battle… wippeeee

You’d think Top would want to hoodwink a new Manager in before dropping further down the table with a points deduction.

I don’t see it personally, and the way the players have performed this season as well, just confirms it for me. Woefully inadequate, regardless of Manager. Top, Rudkin and recruitment is what got us here though.

Yeh, RVN is a fair point, although I think our squad was so inadequate for the Premier League, no matter who we had Managing us, the losses would have mounted and players would have turned on the Manager. Cifuentes hasn’t been able to get these players to work for him either, despite hearing about his ‘success’ at QPR At this point, we will need a dollop of luck to get a Manager that just clicks here. Everyone we have been linked with has downsides. I just want to avoid relegation, get to the summer, and clear house!

I wouldn’t take Saudi as much value. He clearly wasn’t ready for Villa though, and I have doubts he will be a solid Premier League manager in the future. He did very well at Rangers though. Unfortunately, the names we are being linked with and available to us, either have failures on their CV or don’t have much of a CV at all. I don’t like the Championship journeymen like Rowett and Mowbray. I just can’t see our diva squad working hard enough for Managers like those. Cifuentes was too much of a soft touch. We have players here who think they are far better than they are and don’t need to work hard. if we don’t get someone in to really rattle the players and drag them along to enough wins, then I think we could go down this season with a whimper.

I have family who are Rangers fans and they were impressed with his stint there and wanted him back. I don’t count Saudi to be honest, that league is a complete mess and I suspect a nightmare to manage in. Aston Villa was a failure but not a complete disaster but they are a much stronger club now, although I don’t think Gerrard is a ready made Premier League Manager anyway. I think the Championship might be his level for now, as well as Lampard. The likeness to Lampard had nothing to do with style or personality, it was in reference to most turning their nose up at Lampard pre Coventry, but seeing how he has had an unexpected, positive impact on them, despite his previous failures. It’s easy to pick apart suggestions anyway, and I do see potential weaknesses with Gerrard. I would be interested to hear who you are favouring from those available and whether you supported the appointment of Cifuentes at the time? I thought Cifuentes didn’t have enough about him, and it seems the players didn’t buy into him either. I see this squad as having a shockingly poor attitude and work ethic, and so that’s why I am leaning towards a strong character to try keep us up this year, but there isn’t much out there. Who are you currently favouring?

I understand the argument, but no Manager was ever going to keep Leicester in the Premier League. We were absolutely honking. You could say the same thing now, but with the individual players we have currently, and the woeful standard of this league, there is no way we should be certain for relegation like we were in the Premier League. Who are your alternatives? I personally don't see Rowett or Mowbray getting anything out of this squad, just like I didn't see Cifuentes. They need a lightning bolt, not just another journeyman from down here. I think Lampard is a similar type to Gerrard, and I am sure most would have sniffed at him before he got the Coventry job. Don't get me wrong, I see issues with someone like Gerrard, but I think he gives us a better chance of a new manager bounce (much needed one) and also someone who won't take crap from the divas in the squad. Not ideal, but from the list available, he is my choice so far.

Agreed, but I also think it makes us a more attractive club again to potential signings. Like him or not, he still has star power. I also think that our hopeless squad might get a genuine new Manager bounce from Gerrard rocking up at Seagrave. He is still far from an ideal choice, but I still see more value in him than a Rowett or Mowbray, especially considering the type of players we currently have.

I'd take Gerrard, but only if he can play as well.

I would have considered him here before his Rangers stint, but that was a complete disaster and I am now as horrified as others when we are linked with him. I think he would be more likely to take us down than any other names linked so far. He seems to rub people the wrong way, and as we have a team full of divas, I think it would be a match made in hell. Avoid.

I get the feeling that Top and Rudkin are praying that King picks up a couple of wins, so they can offer it him until the end of the season for barely any money.

wanna bet?

Hate to burst the optimism bubble, but his recent injury record is atrocious and has barely played in the last 3 years. Will be lucky to stay fit. We have seen these types of signings before, and they usually involve a game or two and then the rest of the season on the treatment table e.g Ryan Bertrand or our current Aaron Ramsey. Only positive, we haven't offered him a 3 year contract... (yet)

signings like this make me think that Top and Rudkin are purposely trying to destroy the club.

I refuse to comment on this thread. ..,apart from this comment.

Only way to force him to sell the club, is for a complete collapse in attendance, down to just 100s of oblivious happy clappers left. Top has to be made to feel that the whole City wants him gone and he is no longer welcome. I doubt he has the backbone to continue if he sees that amount of hostility to himself and King Power. But, it will still take time unfortunately. His Father was the reason for our success, Top has been a complete disaster.

This is going to take many years to get back to the Premier League, if ever. We need new Ownership, new Leadership, complete new Squad and a new Manager. We will be lucky to stay a Championship club during that time and avoid bankruptcy.

Is TOP there? I hope the stadium empties and he is the only one left sat there.

These players will happily fold in any relegation battle. League 1 looking more and more likely. Genuinely, need some horrible git in now who will crap out some 1-0 wins. I don't care about style or whether he can build us for the Premier League. We just have to stay up.

Genuinely LAUGHABLE how far we have fallen and probably further to fall as well, with League 1 looking a real possibility now.

My point was, KP hired him again after the infamous video, so the video is not relevant which is what the original post was about

I take your points and I totally agree about how a Manager sometimes just clicks. We certainly need to get lucky with this, otherwise we could genuinely drop this season. However, I also saw these types of positive takes on why Marti Cifuentes was going to be a success for us. I don't like that he has got a recent relegation to League 1 with a big club like ours, and I also don't like how and why he was recently sacked by Oxford. I am not sure he will be able to get this arrogant and lazy squad working hard and grinding out results. Personally, I would push for Steven Gerrard, as I can just see him more able to light a fire under some player's arses. I understand that people may think even he is a stretch too far, but I think the Championship is actually his best available option right now, as he is not Premier League tier and needs to rebuild his reputation like Lampard is trying. As you said though, it could be anyone and something either clicks or it doesn't.

If he didn't have the health problems, I would take him back right now. I think he would grind out some wins for us. However, I think there are better options out there. He also hasn't Managed or taken a training session for well over 2 years now. I would like to see him get back into Management with a midtable League 1 club and rebuild his career that way. Maybe be back for us one day, but not yet.

He managed Top's other club Leuven after the infamous video.

I see why Gary Rowett is favoured by some, due to his connection with Leicester, but are we really at the point of hiring someone who was most recently sacked by Oxford? All feels very Marti Cifuentes again, a low to mediocre Championship manager at best. I don't see him inspiring any kind of performance from this bunch. He was also in charge of Birmingham a couple of seasons ago when they were relegated to League 1 by a point. Not something I want to have happen here, although I accept he only had 8 games there. I am not expecting Ange to rock up, but surely we can expect a little better than someone with Rowett's record. It would be such a MEH appointment, which could condemn us to League 1 with the points deduction coming.