TommyK

If managers look after recruitment....as per the summer. Maybe its RvN fault we're not signing anyone?

And if they stay down they can't afford him

Oxlade Chamberlain is exactly the type of injury prone, expensive, past it signing that we've been complaining about and taken us away from our buy young/low sell high strategy.

Ferguson is definitely not another Edouard.

But but...what about our Zamba following?!

Anywhere to watch it?

He's not an important player for us and just needs to go. That said, with our lack of midfield bite I would play him. But we won't so...

Like it. The type of signing we should be looking at. Best young players from clubs.

This is club released rumour to try and force our hand.... Would you perfer we just roll over and let teams have our players for nothing? Or deals that are not good for us?

Sell both. **** it we're down anyway. Might as well get rid of the rubbish

He's prone to errors and dives in too much. He's also our best CB on the ball and probably out fastest ( although that's more of an indication of how slow the others are ) I would sell him, but also don't have the hate that everyone seems to have for him.

I'm not sure about that. Faes is a massively experienced CB. A full international that's played at the highest level for years. I've not seen anything from Okoli to suggest he's going to be a solid premiership player. I would get rid of all our center backs given the chance and start again. They are all the problem not the solution. Coady; too slow and old Vestergaard; too slow and old. Okoli; not good enough IMO. Faes; ( actually my favourite center back) But just not solid enough and prone to errors.

Okoli is shit because Faes is shit? We need someone that raises everyone else's game. Not needing it to be raised.

No way has this came from the club. It's all agent talk as he wants to move.

Wed be pretty stupid to tell them what our defense would be outside of a official hearing.

Reads as agent talk to me.

You've picked out two examples there. There are thousands of examples where if you are good enough you are in the team.

If Alves was good enough he'd be in the team. It's not a question of age or anything else. It comes down to him being good enough. By that I mean, tactically aware and physically strong enough. When I've seen him, he looks technically very good. But little appreciation of positioning and space.

Sad thing is Amartey walks into this team.

Shows he's miles away from the first team if he can't get in the Dundee team

Buck stops with the agents then?

There is not a center back at the club that I would be sad to see leaving. None of them are good enough.

Just don't think the squad would fit Moyes style of play. We're just not good enough at the back to try and keep clean sheets every game.

Surely we only sell if we're getting someone else in.

Who?