Lambert09

I know managers aren’t fully responsible these days but anyone got a list of the squad changes that happened at either club? Particularly Swansea? At Southampton Brooke’s, thb and shea charles were all good incomings. Manning he moved over from Swansea if I remember correctly.

To be completely fair, you had nothing to play for so it’s extremely hard to motivate the team. I think getting that string of results you did should have been enough to show he was capable of getting a tune out of what you had. I think yourselves and west ham walk the league anyway, so it’s not like it will bite you but still extremely harsh imo

My tune has probably changed but I’d rather sell Nelson than souttar now. Obviously we may lose both but if it was one or the other … I think we’re at a place where we need definite quality, not potential. A team with souttar gets promoted a team with Nelson

That’s a good shout. I guess the difference is that lampards issue was that they just thought he wouldn’t get results. As seen with Enzo, even if we win games we still won’t like what we’re seeing. For where we are, if he gives youth a chance and wins the majority of games. I’ll be happy. But the get it forward fans aren’t ever going to accept this one

Can anyone, actually put forward a name of a manager that’s gone in somewhere completely unpopular and done well? from any club. It’s just always impossible to do well when the fans are truly against it. I don’t mean like Claudio is an odd choice… I mean when fans are actually fully against an individual. Even if they start well one slip up and it just gets toxic in an instant as everyone waits for the chance to be proved right. Rafa at Everton. Frank at spurs. Nuno at spurs. Bruce at villa or Newcastle. I just can’t think of a happy ending when a guy is demonized before a ball is kicked and actually turns those opinions around? It’s not even like he’s coming into a club that has low expectations out fans will not be happy to lose to any club in league 1… and essentially he needs to be perfect with his PR and results for at least the first month to get any credit in the bank. Or it will go the same as rangers

If I were to guess, he’d be more likely to use him as a cm to just win the ball and lay it off to someone. I think the fullbacks will be essential to how this system works so I just think the hamza rb experiment will be put to bed. Enzo used hamza purely as a back up, don’t think he’d ever have had a prominent role. One training session and you’d be dipping into the market if he was first choice

Always needed a full stop thread. we are shite .

Supposedly got the hump when they denied permission to speak to them so he’s basically told them that if they won’t allow him to leave to another club, he’ll simply not work.

Not sure Martin will fancy hamza in the slightest. I think alukos chances will have increased sevenfold. A manager obsessed with possession is not going to want someone who doesn’t have the technical ability. I’m one of the few on here that actually does rate hamza. But we’ve never played a way that works for him and Martin won’t be any different. In a high turnover team that’s attempting to break lines consistently hamza is very useful as he is at his best when he is hounding to get the back back quickly (not last man or in your box) higher up the field.

You wouldn’t want Edward’s?!?

I just figured with 115 it was pretty much every year 😂

Largely would come down to what they get charged with. But any points penalty and we can go back and say they should have had it in the seasons that impacted us. But we all know they will get cash and a slap on the wrist…… butt theoretically if they do get hit with something mega… you’d imagine we’d have grounds

This could be huge for us. We may have lawsuits aimed at us from championship clubs but….. we have one of the biggest claims of missed champions league football for 2 seasons. This is going to be incredibly messy and I’m shocked this door has been opened. I don’t think a single club should be sued…. I think the league should be for allowing it but seeing as the league get their money from every club that would be a little unfair

I don’t think there’s a doubt that he’s out number one choice though. Which is the big problem really because it’s simply not the direction we wanted the club to go in. Whether he accepts or not, we now know that’s the road the club want us to continue down…. It’s just all more evidence that we’ve learnt nothing and have no desire to change course. what’s most alarming, is that if you read between the lines it likely means top thinks the issue was that the managers we hired were the reason for our downfall and not everything else. I think a full on reimagining should have been on the cards after crashing us to our lowest ever point

https://www.instagram.com/stories/will.alves10/3915973673278629406?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MTFlMjA2aHFmdDZ1bg== it’s time!

I saw rochdale had a new manager and literally assumed their old boss would have moved to Stockport…. Because they are a club that know what they’re doing. The club size doesn’t matter when you are as incompetent as us

I don’t. That’s a good way to tarnish a legacy. Some things are better left behind closed doors tbqh

Yeah exactly. I think with the way we are run, people need to realise that it won’t be a good thing in the slightest if it falls through. We would need a huge stroke of luck to not get it all wrong again

Reality is, if we don’t get Martin we will be starting at zero again and we will be getting a manager in at a similar time to Marti. Shambles

Yeah I get that but a few things to consider and to preface this: I don’t think he’s the best option, I think the club is being lazy as per … but just trying to balance the views as I think with the opinions of ‘he’s the worst choice imaginable’ or ‘he’s a great pick’ … the reality is he’s somewhere in between. mk dons was essentially his first job. He was learning and in that role he did have them playing nicely. Sometimes the squad available can’t achieve things and with mk dons he was building something positive even if the results didn’t get there in an instant. Same could be said with Swansea… they were pushing towards playoffs didn’t miss out by a great deal. Not amazing work but I don’t think a position in a table always tells a full story. Lots of posters on here used to make similar points about lampard and taking derby from 6th to 6th etc… but sometimes football is like that. He didn’t underachieve with Swansea or mk dons as if either club went up that would have been a surprise, so all it proves is that he isn’t a miracle worker and he’s not likely to get an average group suddenly promoted, not with the way he plays. But if he has a top 6 squad he will likely finish in the top 6 …. Which simply put isn’t a disaster appointment given the talent we have coming through our youth ranks and hopefully a recruitment drive that should be way beyond most league 1 teams reach. if the club mess up recruitment… we will fail big time but if we get it right… I think he will do well. I think we get caught up by the fact Enzo was too good for him …. But Enzo is the man city manager… of course he should be miles ahead of a league 1 manager. It’s the reality of where we are

I dislike him as a man, I dislike his tactics as a spectacle…but as a coach for league 1 he is talented. He gets players on side and even gives youth a chance, he was monumental with dibling and made him look better than he is. It’s incredibly unlikely but if he’s learn from his last 2 jobs and has the humility to adapt, he could end up surprising everyone

Will still legitimately suggested the reason he was a failure at Southampton was because of his English. I don’t want anyone with that much bs up their ass anywhere near us

Wonder if vardy might train with us to stay fit. We dont even have a striker for training ffs

After the complete disaster of sponsorships, does anyone have any faith we’d even sell to the right people. We clearly will just take the best financial deal which will likely place us in the hands of someone bad/corrupt . Wonder if we will end up BC game fc

I doubt we do anything until after the World Cup