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Freeman's Wharfer

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  1. You might have missed this on the call last night, or be commenting without having seen it and the explanation of the distribution approach, but 15,000 hard copy leaflets were handed out before four matches, all other fan groups were alerted to the survey and asked to push to their members and the Supporters Club took leaflets to put on their coaches up to Blackburn away. You literally could not do more to widen the sample than just Foxes Trust members. The club know the sample is good and they are not in any way questioning that. What they possibly are at risk of misunderstanding is that this isn’t simply a case of only unhappy fans taking this survey - sure there might be a slight slant, in the same way you’re more likely to do a review after a bad experience, but the numbers and overwhelming trends in the data mean that is flawed logic.
  2. ‘European semi final’
  3. Can’t move on social media without adverts to buy tickets for this popping up.
  4. It’s a bit crap, isn’t it?
  5. Would go down well in the stadium right now
  6. “We always knew this year was just about survival”… Well this just shows that to be utter nonsense.
  7. Not seen it discussed or confirmed elsewhere but I wondered if part of the proceeds going to LCFC In The Community was to actually keep some people in a job that they might not otherwise have. Personally, I don’t want to contribute to the Vichai Foundation after the £25 Loyalty Tax went there and we’ve never heard anything since about where that money went and how it helped.
  8. Which questions did you think were loaded/leading?
  9. It’s funny, what I’ve seen in recent months with the protests and the surveys is this absolute desire for some to be ‘proved right’. ”Protesting like that, it’ll never work - you should do it x/y/z way”. “The only way the club is going to listen to the protests is if you paint the stadium red, stage a sit-in protest in the changing room and stop giving the club your pocket money”. “Good luck to those protesting, but Aiyatt won’t care one bit mate”…. Trust mobilises some form of action and offers up FREE MEMBERSHIP - like a membership tier WHERE YOU LITERALLY JUST NEED TO GIVE YOUR NAME DOB AND EMAIL ADDRESS - and people are like “ah, don’t think the club will listen to the Trust”. Trust runs a survey that tries to cover the vast majority of issues affecting supporters today and you get people going “bit long isn’t it?” despite it taking 5-10 minutes to complete. They then spend at least 50% of said 5 minutes writing critical posts about how the survey takes too much time or won’t make a difference. There’s a whole heap on fans who would rather be able to say “told you so” than actually do even the smallest inconvenience to try and do something/anything!
  10. He was still when they met Rudkin
  11. I reckon he’s here come the start of next season. Clubs won’t want to take a gamble on him injury wise and particularly not on the wage they’d have to pay to match his Leicester one.
  12. Genuinely knocked me a bit hearing people actively cheering him. I understand if people don’t want to boo, or don’t agree with it, but to actively clap and cheer a guy that has disrespected and harmed the club and abused the fan base… They must think it makes them some perfect fan or that they’re doing a good deed in support of the team, but have a brain FFS! Might as well start chucking flags of Dennis Wise or Wes Fofana up around the stadium.
  13. Forcing change to happen at the club will require a range of methods and approaches. Each of which will have their own merit. Not sure how you can equate clapping the players to filling out a wide-ranging survey that gives supporters the chance to express their frustrations through a more formal channel.
  14. I’m going to defend Steve here and challenge the notion that he was speaking on behalf of the Trust. He was just down there having been out and about for hours distributing leaflets for the Trust End of Season Survey and then watching the game and going round to the protest gathering post-match. An in-the-moment encounter that he never expected, and hadn’t prepared for, popped up as Top came out. He was asked who he was (again you wouldn’t expect) and he mentioned that he’s on the Trust board in his answer to that question as well as saying he’s on several fan channels. He was not there to speak on behalf of the Trust and I don’t think it’s fair to take this interaction as him having done so. Believe me, the Trust is pushing the club and trying to hold it to account. The Trust does have subgroups in areas like Finance & Operations, Communications, Membership and the Women’s Game. These are all working day to day to help the Trust function but are of course only as strong as the number of helping hands. You’d be more than welcome to come and get involved and help any of those areas get better?
  15. There’s a lot of competition right now, but the Communications Director might just about be performing the worst out of all the executives at the Club….
  16. Just yet another sign of a lack of critical reasoning/thinking skills. It’s proper react in the moment based on what you have just seen in the performance, or in response to the players clapping the crowd and thinking that’s the right response to that, stuff. No ability to react to the bigger picture at full time (a disgraceful and avoidable relegation) or to see that clapping moments like this makes you complicit in a fall in accountability that has spread across the club. These people are actually dangerous. If everyone were like them the club could charge what they want, play games where they want and only let who they want into the stadium. They have an inability to hold a standard or protect anything for their fellow supporters.
  17. Maybe I’m responding to this because I’m one of the volunteers at the Trust who has contributed a lot of time and effort to getting this survey up and running but it’s a bit disheartening to hear people criticising the number of questions. There were a group of over 10 people with whom the questions were vetted. Where we got to with the end result was a set of questions that gives us the best chance to know over the next year what LCFC fans are thinking and feeling and hard data to press the club direct but also share with local and national media. The most time it will take anyone is 10-15 minutes (depending on your answers to some questions, you’ll not actually even see others as they are not relevant to your responses). It’s not much to support an effort to do something and the time taken to criticise and moan on here does far less than that taken to respond to a survey that the club will see.
  18. As supporters, we should all have a vested interest in the Fan Engagement Framework and how those within it are representing us (at the end of the day, that’s what they are there as: representation of a wider group). You can tell them what you think about how they’re doing: [email protected] I mean it’s club employees who see that email inbox - and FAB reps don’t have direct access to it as far as I understand - but, of course, you’d hope the club will pass constructive feedback on… If these minutes (and previous ones) do one thing, I hope it’s create more scrutiny on the Fan Engagement Framework and how it’s serving us as Leicester City fans.
  19. A serious team does not concede from a corner a couple of minutes into the match. Forget what came after, and our inability to breakdown the worst side that has ever played at this level, that start tells you everything you need to know about this bunch and where they're headed. Today confirmed we’re utterly done for.
  20. As a wise man once said. “What have protests ever achieved?” Come on, large scale protests here could achieve a hell of a lot. At the moment, Aiyawatt still thinks he’s welcome here (I can’t quite claim with absolute certainty that he’s not based on what we’re seeing across the fan base atm) and the vanity project that owning this club has become for him is still intact. That penny needs to drop for him that he’s not and that ownership of this club is negatively affecting his image before he’ll even consider selling. Right now, I think he thinks he’s adored.
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