Paninistickers

Always been tinpot. Regular third division club in the 70s 80s and 2000s. Only ever been in the top division for around 8 seasons in the last 50. They got the reflected glory of a bigger club perception courtesy of the stadium being used for FA Cup semis - but that's long since gone

Not digging you out in particular, but the clamour for Cannon on here is a bit weird. None of us have seen him play more than 10 minute cameos three times. On each occasion he's looked, frankly, slow, weak and out his depth. Plus the abuse Kels is getting from others is strange. I saw him play his usual pitch perfect pass forward to Mavididi and some neat ball juggling to set up KDH (I think, I've forgot who it was to tbh) and was no more anonymous than our strikers usually are in this system

Totally agree. The TV games over the weekend can be spread over Saturday, NYE and New Year's Day. The cramming in of fixtures is a hangover from the old days of getting a big crowd in for a big gate receipt. It's not needed at this level anymore.

To give it some context, can you imagine de montfort hall A) refusing to publicise tickets for jack and the beanstalk B) demanding you buy a membership of the de mont to allow you to buy tickets to jack and the beanstalk C) eventually allowing people to buy tickets for jack and the beanstalk but only if the buyer has evidence they went to see Jools Holland there three years ago

I agree and I was giving Ipswich a back handed compliment by comparison with past champions. They aren't at that level and I'm amazed there are tracking better. A fairer comparison is past promoted clubs; Burnleys and QPRs and Forests etc. That's their natural level. They are waaayyy over performing and credit to them for that. But, regardless of last night's result, they simply aren't at our standard (and nor should they be, we have Pl players and wage bill)

Hallelujah. Someone else saw the same. It's frankly staggering that til now, have accumulated more points than stand out champions of the past; us, wolves, reading, Newcastle, Fulham etc .... There is no way on earth they are that level. They simply haven't got the quality. They've got the luck and confidence and momentum but they ain't at the level of those past champions in a million years. Southampton will overtake these within weeks.

We've conceded late v Ipswich, Sheff Weds, Millwall, Brum and West Brom - basically in six of our last nine games or so. Most of them 'flukes' .... which, is kind of difficult to mitigate against. It's actually very strange. The opposition can basically only score down to chaos. The point I was making is that, somehow, despite being outplayed, we allow the opposition to retain hope. We need to rub their noses on it.

Where was he last night?

Yeah, we lost two points last night down to no VAR. But I'll take it. The thing is absolutely appalling.

It's an elite price of business. The scouting team have pulled off an absolute blinder here. The lad will play at the very very top.

I thought he played OK. Not a massive fan but thought he played some good balls into midfield

Extraordinary how we see games through our own lens. Not having a pop, but I thought the chasm between us was as big as possible first and second to be. It looked more like a top v seventh type game. And you bummed a fluke which on huff and puff versus our third gear, you could argue was deserved. We pay our players 65m a year. So, I don't take any particular glee in being better. Pound for pound your performance is immense.

Hard to work out how and why we concede so many fluke late goals. Brum, Ipswich both deflections and West Brom Sheff Weds both hit and hope pinballs. I accept this is a bit of a weird.comment / weak argument,.but are we victims of our own success? We outplay teams so much that the opposition and crowd get so excited by a corner or throw in and/or elated that they are only a goal behind (when, such as at Brum, they should've been 6 or 7 down). The only.answernis to learn nasty streak and really put out foot on the throat. We haven't yet developed that brutal side.

Agree that Winks, Wilf and KDH all need a rest. But playing Casadei is absolute suicide. He's a disaster. Not all his fault but every time he comes on, we instantaneously get worse. Where tf is Praet again? Fckn always AWOL. We need to try and limp by v Cardiff with Hamza, Praet (assuming he's not sulking) and Ricky in midfield (forcing a rethink for the right back / midfield role...maybe Doyle can do that from LB?) Basically anything but Casadei and Yunus

They ain't the second best team in the league. They are currently in second but they haven't anything more to them than a Hull, Watford or West Brom

Same. Wasnt keen pre match but thought he was pretty decent and played some clever angled balls into midfield.

Watched a different game to me. We are in every sense leagues above them. We were leggy and sloppy second half admittedly but in every aspect we were better. The were able to equalise only courtesy of a horrendous penalty decision and an absolute fluke. That's Hull, Middlesbrough, Ipswich, Sheff weds who've managed to take points offa us, all thanks to - in the proper sense of the word - extraordinary goals. Even Leeds' had an element of luck

One or two good things but he's an absolute danger to us. There's a rightful dread when we see he's being brought on.

Easily motm. Bu an absolute mile..They have it to an unknown Ipswich lad!

How on earth have they accumulated this many points? They are absolutely rank average. Second best team ever after 24 games? It's preposterous. I don't buy this 'they deserved it' routine...apart from one cut back near the end they never had a serious chance.

Agreed. Doesn't mean we will of course. Just means we should win. It's exactly what I thought weeks ago - they look a big standard championship side, presumably riding on a wave of confidence

I watched a Brum vlogger after our match and was amused and surprised how upbeat they were after (incorrectly) seeing the game as close. It was a perfect study of hope over experience

Don't fancy that tbh. I thought JJ was a banker to play as they brought him off early on Saturday and brought Souttar on. The only way JJ could/should be dropped is if Hamza is in at the back for his recovery pace.

I'm pleased other people noticed him. He's the first player this season if any opposing team I've thought, wow, this is a genuinely good player (in a strange way, I do and don't miss that from the PL, watching good players from the oppo) He had Fatawu in his pocket and straight after our opening goal, showed he could attack too. I Googled him after the game, which shows how impressive he was!

I'm starting to think the only progress with the club on this is a compromise (though they don't do compromise) Tickets are available only to members Membership can be bought prior to any game for a notional fee - say 20 quid adults (I'd prefer a tenner, but that's not gonna happen). Certain category games exclude new memberships with tickets, ie big teams and local derbies The reduced revenues from membership fees are recovered via season tickets, ie a 20 quid surcharge is added to all STs for a club member status Because of that, the membership package should be rebranded, so it feels much more of a cricket club or building society membership. Maybe a solitary share of the club can be awarded to the membership.