Foxin_Mad

Very true, just generally terrible in midfield, well and defensively

None of them have particularly impressive defensive stats either. Prime Ndidi aside.

There’s 2 arguments about the culture though. If it’s rooted in the club with the likes of Winks and Vestaguard taking the piss. Then realistically it’s going to take more than 9 months to identify and root out the bad eggs. A new man comes in, especially if it’s late June due to PSR and we are then expecting them to assess and build a squad, I can tell you now that ain’t gonna happen, it’s back to square one he will try a few different things, decide who shit etc. The likely options we are going for Martin, or some other tippy tappy moron or the the random swipe of Dyche. The issues remain the club doesn’t have identity, culture is driven from a higher level. The side assembled by Martin was easily beaten by us on several occasions. Then some are advocating a bloke from Bristol city who got royally spanked 6-0 in the playoffs! Not one goal in a game as important as that is pathetic! The managers we are linked with don’t inspire me and I don’t have faith the club can think outside the box. Finally the squad that came down last time was massively better, we have the huge task of finding a striker who can shoot and also competing again well run ambitious clubs like Wrexham and Birmingham. I think there’s a reasonable chance we stay down for a while and gradually slide towards League 1 like Stoke.

I just hope they decide something soon whatever it is. The absolute worse case scenario is they wait until 30th June due to PSR then employ pound shop Brendan or Dyche

Question is who would want to manage this club under these incompetent imbeciles who would a better job?

I really just think its that Wout Faes can not defend, it’s basically that simple 2 times relegated with that clown

I mean in all honesty id be more worried about the 20 million spunked on Skipp, 8 million on Ayew, God knows how much on sodding Eduoard. If we are going to get spanked by the EFL 1.5 million will make fook all difference. Still unless we breach this year which noone knows its doubtful they can do anything; they cant enforce a rule deemed shit by a court retrospectively because they changed the rules recently, the facts remain at the time we broke them their rules were not very good.

I think the club should have said new contract or for sale, maybe when we were that successful it was harder to lose your best assets but in hindsight much needed.

May I remind the LCFC revisionists that whilst the DOF and clueless owner remain, we are likely to end up with someone equally clueless who we need to sack in 6 months. We are becoming the new Watford/Hull/Stoke how exciting!

Wonder if all the Thai influences will be there, cant wait till that bit, thats my fave!

So thats one manager potentially down ensuring that we get left with the biggest shower of useless shit available as the club piss around until June 30th

And the Sheep

The quality difference is astounding even though we are shit. It’s interesting to see Sunderland using a fairly young squad though, we definitely NEED to use ours

And ****ing fire show shit, like we have it every week, it adds nothing. We could have doubled that on another shit player instead!

The gaps huge Id be very surprised unless it’s written for Sunderland but they genuinely smash Derby’s record with spending trillions, such a difference in quality even compared to our game vs Saints

I’ll drive Faes anywhere, I never want to see him play for us again!

The ultimate is we beat Ipswich and Man City get 90 points deducted

Hes absolutely not worse than Peter Taylor, that is absolute garbage. Taylor had nearly 2 seasons to build his squad and at that time A LOT of investment. Rudd has basically had, well **** all, no money no nothing and people are expecting him to polish absolute turds he didn't even choose with a load of Coopers useless staff for 3 months, hes had issues but anyone cant see he has been given a tragic hand, not to mention the absolute crap communication from the club, im really struggling to find many people who would come to this club who could make a good situation out of this mess.

Staggering ineptitude right across the club

Its completely true the club need a vision first, where are they headed? If Dycheball is where they want to go fair enough, bring in the players and staff to suit that, plan for a future of Dycheball and a Dyche type sucessor for a few years down the line. What we cant do is bring him in, build a squad, even stay up and then fook him off in search of tippy tappy. We need a sustainable path, clubs structure and succession planning for when things go stale or someone gets poached for players and staff. Continually be thinking who could we approach next if we need to, draw up a list of players who could replace current assets should we have to sell. Its not particularly difficult but this club is absolutely stinking.

I dont think hes the worst, hes clearly a confidence player, the defence has been awful all year. The fullbacks you can give a few errors but our central defenders needed to be much better.

Any money for this useless woolly haired fecker is a bonus imo 5million + is a great bit of business.

Given the people we are linked with so far and who are likely to come, I would rather the club keep Rudd. (Martin, Dyche, Manning) He 6th months + here now, he understands what he has available, what needs to change, who needs to go, what he might need to add. He seems to be working well with the young players whilst keeping their best interests at heart (exams etc). He looks likely to continue that. My fear is we bring in new ideas, they take a good few months to figure out whats, what, whos, who, adds a few players, changes the style, ignores the young players and then we struggle and get stuck in the managerial merrygoround, there comes a point you have to stick with someone a bit, we cant just keep sacking managers. Yes we have been awful, weve been awful all year. He's been working with a difficult set up, none of us really know the conditions but they aren't good, some of the more senior players have a very poor mentality, there seems to be a poor culture. Id day since Barry Murphy and King has come in things have started to improve slowly and that kind of shows in results. Big changes cant happen in weeks or even a few months, it might take a period of time for the ground work, the teams to be built. That same Forest side absolutely wiped the floor with us at the KP. Look at Pearson after Sven, it took time for him to start getting a tune out of that team when he cleared out some of the dross. Rudd has not been given a window to being in any of his own players, not one. If we could 100% get someone like Rohl, or an overseas outside the box option, and get them in as soon as the season ends fair enough but if we wait till June 30th due to PSR and then bring in a Dyche or Martin, that would be a massive cluster ****. The time for Dyche was back in November, not now. What we need is to build an ethos, stability, structures at the club for a future. We really need to develop what young talent we have, reduce our spending and really get on top of this PSR issue and continue to run a sustainable structure. Wages need to be largely based on a bonus/success basis where possible. Potentially if we utilise Monga, Evan, Alves, Nelson, Stolarczyk, with Fatawu, Mavididi, maybe Skipp and a few others for experience weve got a decent looking championship side without too much investment.

O'Neill? Not that ****ing joker who has made Southampton so pathetically shit that even Rudd could easily beat them 2-0 Just no. Honestly with these names we may as well not bother.