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Won them 12 points this season apparently despite limited minutes. Celtic fans seem to love him.

Luke Thomas went on loan to Sheffield United in the Prem when we got relegated to the championship.

Would rather sign no one and keep Louis page and Aluko. Monga as well but he seems the most likely to leave.

Semedo was not better than Ricardo, he just had the benefit of playing for Barcelona. Cancelo maybe but he was also world class.

Vardy was also past his best when he played against Cavani and Ronaldo. At the time they were still deemed good enough for their national team. Van Persie, Falcao he played before his best.

We've seen a lot of world class strikers playing for the teams against us in the last 10 years. Rooney, Aguero, Cristiano Ronaldo, Cavani, Lukaku, Falcao, Van Persie, Osimhen, Kane. Apart from Aguero and Kane who battered us regularly and Osimhen who was brilliant on the day, Vardy was usually was better on the pitch than the others on the occasion.

Our current team aren't good enough so I don't get why the youngsters have to be better than players with more experience and on higher wages with no room left to develop. Sadly with our fan base we can never actually play the young players as they are unfairly expected to be better than the senior players and get half the grace as the senior players for bad performances. Look at Faes, when he was last starting for us we were conceding 3 before half time, but the second he leaves the narrative is that we shouldn't have let him go. Nelson on the other hand was nowhere near as bad yet has been written off by many.

To be fair as hilariously deluded as that quote is, if true, it's better that he is kicking up a fuss to leave rather than sitting on his contract.

Genuinely think no one will want him, he's absolutely trashed his career. He's a £5k-£10k a week player on £45k a week, the only we could get rid of him is if we subsidise the majority of his wages.

On the face of it I can respect that interview from Wellens, but Orient fans in the comments are pointing out that the troublemakers are players that he tracked and signed. Seems a bit more like a Rodgers meltdown blaming others for his own failures than setting the standards himself.

He's on 4,000 to 5,000 a week apparently, which is standard for league one. It would need to be their record signing though, which is currently £400,000. Shows the level of mismanagement at this club that we might be competing in the same league with the transfer fees and wages we have spent.

Alves does have the work ethic defensively but struggles with the positioning side of it.

Minutes at Liverpool are more important for a player's development than minutes with us. If a young player struggles to get minutes with us then that's his career trajectory scuffed, if he struggles to get minutes at a Europe level Prem club they can still get a good loan to the championship or move to a European club.

Ricardo's last home game on the bench? Hopefully despite the situation he gets a good send off.

Our academy produces leaders, our recruitment team signs pansies. Who came to apologise to fans the other day? Lascelles, Choudhury and Page, 2 out of 3 academy players. Look at the way Braybrooke has turned his career around after a nightmare loan and injury. Evans went to a relegation battling league one side at 17. Jayden Joseph, Wilson Brown both establishing themselves in league 2 at a young ages. These are players with the required mentality, not some 30 year old league one journeyman whose going to "lay down the law". The thing is we looked decent in pre season, lots of energy and players trying to prove themselves. Those standards were set by the young lads like Joseph, Wilson Brown, Aluko, Page looking to prove themselves and it got ruined by the senior lads coming in and taking back their place without having to fight for it. Experienced players reduce footballing standards because they retain their position in the team through dressing room hierarchy rather than footballing ability and desire. The way we fix the mentality at this club is through playing a young group of players who are competitive and hungry to prove themselves and by bringing in a manager who backs them and doesn't default to relying on experience.

Hopefully not, would much rather some up and coming league 2 players i.e. braybrooke, Joseph, Wilson brown than sign yet more "experience".

Jordan Ayew is but agree Daka's terrible.

With 19 players on the pitch we will still end up with Winks and Vestergaard passing it back and forwards between each other.

How else is Rudkin going to fund one more year of Ayew?

The worst thing is that if Page was putting in similar performances on a fraction of the wage, we would be hearing endlessly about how we: wouldn't be in this mess if Winks was starting; missing out on proven championship quality etc.

It's preemptive for the season after next.

Anyone who bins off the likes of Winks and Faes gets a thumbs up from me. We need to prioritise getting these cockroaches out of the club, it's more important than results on the pitch even. Although as we've seen the results inevitably go tits up if you keep them around.

Yes, Kasper managed it, Simpson managed it but Winks clearly can't manage his current working situation. Van Nistelrooy had every right to try and improve Winks's performances. Just because he didn't know for certain that the distance was why Winks is playing awfully doesn't mean that he shouldnt at least try and remove one of the potential limiting factors.

I'm sure we would all be a lot more valuable if we had Jon Rudkin determining our value.

Can we get drawn against our own U21s in the vertu cup next season?