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Puel, for all his interpersonal shortcomings, 'bequeathed' Rodgers the squad which won us the FA Cup - and which Rodgers gradually disincentified.

That's it for me. Turning Football Focus on and seeing them down 2-0 in six minutes. After the successes we've had and our position as a team which defied the monopoly of the Prem someone(s) have created this shit-show of a club by serious neglect. We'll have performed a miracle if we don't go down. The FA Cup was a great coup, but there's been an absence of long-term planning at this club since Vichai died. We did so well to recover after relegation and then Maresca goes and takes KDH with him. You can all say it was good business sense to take up Chelsea's offer, but it's left us in the mire. Just like Kanté did. I hate the way football has changed.

Listen to 'Multiplication' by Bobby Darin 😊.

If these faults were identified in 2013, who failed to rectify them? I'm sure Vichai wouldn't have flown in an aircraft that was potentially dangerous and that begs the question as to who kept this quiet. All very well suing the makers (for £2.15bn!) but which company owned the helicopter. Or was it built and leased by Leonardo SpA? The family 's lawyers are claiming there were "fundamental design errors" but has this been backed up by aeronautic accident investigators? Real failings of judgment/negligence are indicated here.

Our initial recovery and success were down to Pearson and his team and Walsh and his recruiting. I don't know what Rudkin's credentials were before he came to City, but, in the jubilation that surrounded the title, I suspect he was included in the approval of Vichai. Vichai was new to the game and learning. Whether he'd have sacked Rudkin by now is a hard question to answer. But he died and Top took over. He hasn't his dad's business acumen, so I guess he's relied on Rudkin. Both of them are not doing City any favours. I don't believe Top has the decisiveness to sack Rudkin or to abdicate himself. It's the runaway train scenario. While this has all gone to fvck, we fans are relying on an inexperienced manager and a bare bones squad to save the day. It's football comedy hell.

Not quite the same context, but there are plenty on here who like seeing their barbed compositions posted on here and most on 'em ain't professional footballers. Alves has received compliments from many who've witnessed his talent and regretted that his progression has been delayed by injury. Bit of a cheap shot and not particularly amusing.

When Cooper and Nistelrooy have been selecting under-performing players and teams all season long, then "being good enough" isn't perhaps a reliable yardstick to indicate Alves' (or anyone else's) justification for being selected. RvN seems to be stuck in the same rut as Cooper - unable to experiment because he's scared it'll go wrong and he'll be open to criticism for making a bad selection. I'd rather we went down battling rather than this current supine display.

KDH started against Wolves - shown as positioned on the right on the team sheet. Made an assist in the 3-1 victory. I hope this is an upturn in his career.

The Club is stuck. Relegation was down to Rodgers locking horns with the Executive. No way, with the talent we had, should we have gone down. Rudkin, Whelan and Top seem more interested in maintaining their positions than doing what's best for the team. I state 'seem' because one's met with 'mushroom management' - that being kept in the dark and fed sh1t. The fans, who see the ongoing situation with much more clarity, are treated like unavoidable nuisances, instead of integral to the club's well-being. Top just isn't an effective effective leader and business manager. Rudkin and Whelan appear to be hanging on to their positions because they've been there forever - not because of the very necessary dynamism necessary for the job. It's reminiscent of 'The Office' - yet without the laughs. The result against QPR indicates that maybe Nistelrooy is getting through to the players, but the team needs an adequate executive working to ensure we stay where Vichai's acumen placed us. The current placeholders aren't performing to anything like the necessary level.

It's like reading the Daily Mail - 100 pages of complaint after complaint after complaint.

Barely a footballer! I suppose your minimum entry level would be Messi, Mbappe and van Dijk et al. Some of the crap written on this forum!

Great analysis.

Soumare still isn't up to Premiership pace. At one point, while he was deciding what to do with the ball, he was mobbed by three Liverpool players. Justin did have a reasonable game, but we've seen the last of the player he was...sad. They did drop heads after that second goal. But Liverpool are insurmountable at the moment. Plenty on here pessimisticly predicting 9-0 before the game. Daka has got the 'yips' - I don't know what you do about that. Kristiansen did well - Salah is world class level. The way he scored was sublime. Winks ok. El lively. Mavididi needs to risk more - disappointing when he passes back instead of going for it. Stolarczuk a welcome change. Ayew exceptional for that goal - twisted just enough to throw that defence. Vestergaard and Coady did well enough. Buonanotte should be starting. It's down to Nistelrooy now to inspire the team. He can be excused a couple of bad team selections, but he's got to raise his performance from now on. His main job is to infuse the lads with confidence and fight and find a selection who can battle. It'll be a close run season.

Soumare still too slow for this level. Surrounded by three Scouse players while he's still thinking what to do with the ball. And..dispossessed.

Just when you actually want United to win, Fernandes gets the red and Wolves are dominating.

He's just another footballer - you have to do a lot worse in the world to merit "disgusting human being". He needs to go - for his own sake and City's. Why he's still here and being selected is yet another anomaly in the mess that currently LCFC.

In business a firm is very lucky if its founder has a child/children who has the same talent - usually that successor will have been trained and familiarised from early on. Vichai was astute, but football is a complex business and he made a few mistakes himself. There aren't dynasties in football - you hope to choose a good manager but judging by the turnover of managers, even at Premier level, you're lucky if you find an Arteta or Emery. Look at how Guardiola has lost his magic touch. Top hasn't earned the right to succeed Vichai - he's showboating off of his dad's rep. He's got advice that's not being given to benefit the team, but to keep Rudkin and Whelan on the gravy train. He's frozen into indecision - maybe can't even see the train wreck that's coming. He's sabotaging his father's legacy by his inability to act. KP is no longer intertwined with Leicester City FC - the priorities are no longer valid. No matter who becomes manager now, City don't have Vichai at the helm. I'd be embarrassed if I were Top. He needed to learn to be decisive, ruthless even. If he believes it's OK to get relegated or he's content to listen to bad advice, then we're stuck. I think it's clear a change is needed at ownership level, but I don't see him respecting the serious fans. In business reputation is all - took Vichai time to build his and the club's rep and that rep is being dissipated. As for LCFC representatives asking for anti board posts to be taken down, I'd be inclined to say f**k off. It's interfering with free and objective (not objectionable) speech. I've supported City much longer than KP have owned it. Time all English clubs had responsible and forthright fans on the board. I know that Italian fans would be objecting to this kind of shambles by protesting and 'security' wouldn't stop them.

I believe this will be a season of small gains and avoided losses - if the team consolidates under van Nistelrooy. Every draw or win we can grind out is essential - and fighting from the off to deter the opposition from getting an advantage. So I think this one is the best opportunity to get a foothold away from the slippery slope we've been trying to scramble away from. It could be a major confidence booster. I'm just hoping Nistelrooy is creating a fresh mentality - it's hard to imagine how players can become apathetic or uninterested in doing their best for the club which provides their living, but, excluding a handful of players, there are those who need to realise that they have a role other than just playing football. Commitment is the name of the game.

I wondered how long it'd be before someone made a funny about the misnomer. Congrats and a gold star.

Pope's Argentinian - probably supports San Lorenzo. There's a Buddhist, a Copt and other reps of different faiths. Vatican is in Rome - so Roma/Lazio oriented. I suppose the Buddhist is now City's representative on Earth. It would take a miracle to shift BullShit to one of the elite Italian teams and that's the Catholic's speciality.

If he displays the right qualities, then he might not need loadsamoney to galvanise players who've lost their motivation. All the talk about, for example, Faes being a disaster belies the fact that he's not a disaster playing for Belgium. You can pick out individuals sine die, but ultimately, it's a team game. I don't want to bring Clough into the issue, but he's the best example of a manager turning bad boys and players with unrealised potential or drop in form into a cohesive team - by force of personality. Pearson had that and it created what eventually happened in 2015-2016. Cooper couldn't energise the post-Maresca team. But Nistelrooy has got to reveal those qualities. Ruthlessness will be one and sensivity will be another. You treat each player according to his personality and perspective. Money only solves problems if it's used wisely.

Post Cooper, pre Nistelrooy meltdown! What did you all expect - that a rudderless team was going to suddenly come to life during the one game where the reins were handed to a bloke who's not a manager? Nistelrooy will now know the task ahead of him. Let's hope that he displays the necessary strength of character and charisma to bring player egos into line and the tactical nouse to choose the optimum team and make changes when necessary - not when the clock dictates. I'm hopeful - not much, but his reputation seems to indicate a forceful man who is demanding of his players. It's what's needed.

I couldn't work out who "tater peeler" was until I looked back at the list of City managers. As soon as I saw the name Peter Taylor I laughed me head off. I bet he was shit at spud bashing as well.

Overjoyed for a moment and then the reality of who comes next brought me down to earth. I thought appointing him was an uninspiring choice from the off, and results have confirmed it. How good is Puel now looking in comparison to Cooper? Maresca left a team that was confident (although snatching KDH was a shit way of saying ta-ta) and now that confidence needs rebuilding and a semblance of stability bringing back to the squad. I got the feeling he was playing whack-a-mole - picking random players to see if x or y combination worked. Fatawu is a huge loss for us an all. We need someone who's a leader and a steadying influence - who doesn't look at his watch when choosing to sub. Moyes would be an excellent choice. Let's hope the board can make a more imaginative choice this time round. Everyone cross fingers.

We have "quality" in the squad. We had more when we went down - Madders, KDH & Harvey B. in particular. Shit manager then, shit manager now. Mads, Fatawu, Wilf, Buonanotte, Faes, Winks, Vards - all capable of excellent play. Now, hopefully, two years late, Soumare has finally (apparently) adjusted to life at City. Ayew is turning out to be valuable as well. It's not bad players, it's the way they're asked to perform and when they're subbed. The Prem is replete with excellent players, otherwise it wouldn't be the Prem. Trouble is, it's got its fair share of mediocre managers. Defeats logic how poor managers even get into the Prem. Maybe our 'board' are just risk averse, but end up taking bigger risks by their choice of managers. I'm always going to maintain that we won the Cup in spite of Rodgers. If Soumare can keep up his performances then we might have found the key to avoiding relegation - but only if Cooperman allows him the opportunity.