LCFCJohn

No way. They are 10 and 11 points ahead of us. I think we’ll be unlikely to reach their current points totals to be honest. Even if we exceed that by a few points, say 5, they would have to pretty much lose every game between now and the end of the season. Anybody above Portsmouth we can not worry ourselves with. Blackburn, West Brom and Portsmouth are the ones to keep an eye on. And Oxford below of course.

Maybe the panic has set in since we dropped into the relegation zone?

It’s rock and a hard place. Incompetent wastes of space running the club and corrupt wastes of space running the authorities. The issue is, the arguments from the clubs side are loop hole thing about jurisdiction which are fair enough and the authorities need to make sure their rules are worth the paper they are written on. But none of it actually changes the fact we cheated did it? It doesn’t change the fact we ran up a wage bill over 100% of our revenue on mercenaries who we are stuck with.

It is clear we have no engaged in the process and delayed things. We might not be in control of the timeframe but you are kidding yourself if you think this couldn’t have been dealt with sooner. I accept that your point there might make my argument quite simplistic. In that I think we deserve to be punished for our sheer irresponsibility and negligence of the finances but clearly the PL and EFL rules are fag packet stuff. I guess that yeah, possibly accepting it whilst making them look silly and rewrite their rules is not possible as what would the penalty be. But the reason the club are getting so much backlash even from our own supporters is because they are ignorantly refusing to accept any responsibility for the financial breaches. And that is why personally, I am just fed up of hearing about it. But it’s far from over anyway as we will no doubt have breached again and be facing further deductions in the coming years so it’s just a massive spiral and a stain on the clubs reputation.

It’s more than it’s been going on for years and we are just fed up of hearing about. This just drags it out more. Had we not messed around fighting in the first place, we might have taken the punishment as a PL side and in a better position. All the delaying has done is meant we have taken it at our most vulnerable, when we were already struggling and our squad quality has deteriorated massively. Regardless of jurisdiction and poorly written rules, we ****ed up and cheated the rules and to our detriment ultimately. Personally, what would have given me more respect for the club would have been if they’d accepted wrong doing and taken accountability and therefore the punishment. But at the same time, highlighted the holes in the PL and EFL’s rules but taken the high ground by accepting it but whilst laying down a legal challenge to make sure their rules were changed for future.

Probably get the deduction overturned and get relegated anyway due to the abomination of a team they have put together whilst breaking the rules!

Agreed. To be honest, even if we had stretched ourselves out of genuine ambition, and then the PSR rules started to be enforced and it had caused us to struggle having to take a step back, I could have accepted that in a certain case. The year we went down, it has to be said that Fulham and Bournemouth particularly did come up and performed very strongly. Forest to a lesser extent as well, or rather they were just the luckiest team going. It was an awful year to struggle and dip ourselves compared to if we had survived that season and had Sheffield United, Burnley and Luton the next season! Had we had to ship out some higher earners, bring in younger players from the EFL or abroad and had gone down out of a transitional phase and come back stronger, I’d have been ok with that. And I don’t mean the Maresca season as that was papering over the cracks as we were still signing players with crap attitudes on high wages which is why I don’t praise Maresca like others do. My issue is that things weren’t learned from. The vast majority of the players we have an issue with now we signed or extended since that summer, with the exception of Daka and Faes. Still high wages, still poor attitudes and/or mentality.

Absolutely. Regardless of what happens next, they are done here. Even if Rowett comes in and wins 8/9 games and we cruise to safety. Zero credit as they messed around and clearly didn’t want him. Same as this technical director. Even if he turns out to be excellent, it’s luck and not judgment. I have said it before and absolutely happy to be quoted down the line, but we are never playing PL football again whilst Aiyawatt/Rudkin are here. The best hope we have would be a Charlton type existence where we become a yo-yo club between the Championship and League 1 and the KP lot get their wish having constantly talked us down as a small club….

I agree. Most fans can see he is the least worst option. In times he has had a run in the side, it has often resulted in better performances from those around compared to Ayew as well. An alternative is key and they both need to go when their contracts end. No idea what pond we’ll be fishing in but there have been some good strikers in L1 who won’t be coming up like Ballard at Leyton Orient and Tolaj at Plymouth. Thats assuming we aren’t going to cast our recruiting net wider! Rowett’s way of playing might bring more out in Daka by playing to his strengths anyway.

I’d argue we are clinical with the chances we create to be fair. Take the Southampton game last week, we scored 3 from 3 shots on target. Same story in other games. Our chance creation has been poor but we seem to have scored quite a few considering. Defensive solididy definitely. Thats what I’m looking to see if he can improve.

Oh yeah, Ayew’s massive 3 goals from open play in 1,985 minutes played this season to Daka’s 2 in 1,039. Both have 3 assists. Take out the couple of penalties and Daka’s return (whilst crap) is still quite significantly better based on playing time than Ayew’s. Ayew also hinders the team. Put it this way, Daka can often be anonymous and like playing without a striker but Ayew is like the opposition having an extra player is the best way I can put it And before you have a hissy fit, I am not ‘Daka fan’ or ‘whinging’. Just presenting facts. I agree goals are important, as is keeping them out the other end. Both of these are likely increased if we play how Rowett will want, more pressing, winning the ball further up the pitch and getting forward quickly. For his many many faults, we stand a better chance with Daka in the team. And then we look forward to seeing the back of both of them in the summer!

Remember Leicester don’t exist before 2010 though

2-1 Stoke the most likely result. I’d take a draw to end the run of defeats and a performance to give us hope if offered now.

Weren’t people on this forum putting this guys name forward only in the last year or so, for one of our vacancies? I’m sure they were. Perhaps our Jon just goes with the fan opinion, just hasn’t worked out he was looking at posts from a while back. Can’t expect miracles from a guy just discovering technology like the internet though!

Are you talking about if it comes down to the last day or relegation battles in general? There was the small matter of the 2015 great escape! Either way, your point is relevant as this lot don’t have the attitude and fight to overcome a battle like the 2015 team did.

Blackburn winning comfortably away at a place we were 4-0 at half time at. Portsmouth going away and winning with ease at a Charlton side who turned us over without breaking a sweat a couple of weeks ago. Still no manager in place… Not much hope to cling to is there….

Charlton are well out of reach. We needed Portsmouth to lose that. Another nail in our coffin like the the Blackburn win at the weekend.

Agreed. I’m a bit ahead of you on the timeline in that I began when growing up around 2002 so I was thrown straight into administration and the 2004-2008 with a number of our worst finishes in our history up to and including the relegation to L1 and our lowest ever finish in the pyramid. Not that you’d realise the way some go on about it. I genuinely saw someone defend Aiyawatt because ‘we have always been a yoyo club between the Championship and League 1’. Incredible right? I resent the accusation that people demanding change have only been around since 2016 which is the biggest load of Bs. Someone on this forum actually, when challenged on that, turned it into ‘well ok, you have seen how quickly it can turn around and expect that again’. Just no getting through to people. I want two things; 1. Basic standards in terms of effort and desire to be met. We won’t win every game but at least show something and provide some entertainment. 2. For the club not to be a laughing stock due to trying and failing to break the rules, resulting in a points deduction, whilst being a laughing stock on the pitch for the pathetic displays we are putting in, resulting in us being probably the worst Leicester City side in the clubs history now. That might sound exaggerated but note ‘team’ rather than than bunch of individuals and we are currently occupying our joint second worst position ever.

Another crap idea. Clearly that would be masks not flags

Page, Aluko and Braybrooke particularly would be the one thing to be excited about in the event we go down. To a lesser extent, Alves but he hasn’t had the kick on season we’d have hoped and Evans but possibly too raw still. If he can’t force his way into a poor Northampton side, he probably won’t be starting for us.

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Oh 100%. You know already that relegation will be blamed on the points deduction (with the irony on how this happened lost of them) and the fans not backing them. Those responsible, Aiyawatt and Rudkin will get away without taking any responsibility yet again…

No doubt be straight on their back and critical of their every move and decision. I said it before, any party that would be interested in buying will just bide their time. Financially, they can pick us up cheaper once we are in administration and it is obvious to anyone doing their research that we have a cult following towards the current owner. They are better off waiting until it his rock bottom and the support that remains currently dwindles further.

It’s an awful idea. It doesn’t matter whether Cambodia is the Russian or the Ukraine in that dispute. Politics should stay out of football. To bring Aiyawatt’s nation into it draws attention away from the issues. It is cheap point scoring to try and get a reaction. It will alienate supporters who agree that he is ruining the club but aren’t at active protest stage. It will water down any media coverage. Not to mention it is irrelevant to the issues at the club. There is so so much to go on that is relevant to how we are being run into the ground. That needs to be the focus.

We have to back Rowett. He will have higher standards regarding the basics than anyone else in the club, from Aiyawatt, Rudkin, the players and all the fans who thing what we are witnessing is ok. It might not be a quick fix, the damage is likely done. But this club needs a culture shake up, especially if we drop to L1.