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Something about seagrave. If they lose should be wages deducted. Cold showers and training at some rundown facility instead. Win and spend the next week at seagrave.

Frustrate being the key word when daka is put through and trips over the ball for our one chance.

Being conservative we need Goalkeeper Left back Right back Centre back Centre back Defensive mid Box to box mid Attacking mid Left winger Right winger Striker

Merging the above gems. Rooney Van Noidea

Dyche and can't believe i'm saying it. This team can stay up 3 points somewhere and we are back in it. RVN was never the man for this situation.

We've lost 7games in a row and every week RVN rolls out the same formation, same tactics, same players when it isnt working. Our squad could stay up we've just had two duds as managers. Our defensers are two old and slow Vesty or too rash faes to play 2CBs but we roll it out every week and are suprised we get the same defensive results each week Need to move to 3atb for the extra cover. both vesty and faes can play a pass and coady or okoli would be fine. Takes the pressure off our shit left and right backs too. We can play on the break with facundo and bilal. Up top is an issue but roatate vardy daka mavididi. Surely 1 of them can do it. 4231 just isn't working.

We have won games and grinded out some draws so we can do it. We were 15th untill this clown took over although the fans did for Cooper and that had run its course. Too late for moyes or potter but we could bring Dyche in although it would be painful. Ridiculous management appointments and now the team are shot of confidence.

7 straight defeats 18 goals conceded 2 goals scored. Whats to debate anymore.

How far we've fallen.

He was never the right appointment. Needs sacking immediately. It was obvious from the wolves and Newcastle games he isn't what we needed. Gobsmacked at the defence he gets on here. What a terrible disaster.

It all went south after the Danny Ward horror show against Newcastle. I think tonight actually crushed any remaining embers of hope I had for staying up.

I want to agree then I have an intrusive flashback of Daka being put through on goal and tripping over the ball and the horrific thought of it happening again makes my blood run cold.

Yeah our CB's just aren't good enough to play in a 2 but thats what we do every week. 4231 Need to try 3atb anything but the same thing each week which isn't working.

Ruud out he's been a disaster of an appointment. 6 straight defeats. Brilliant coach, shite manager.

2 goals conceded at home before half time to QPR. Enough of the comedy show now. Pay Ruud the clown off and bring in moyes to keep us up before its too late.

So which game does it turn around then? When is the next winnable fixture? We've just named 1/4 of the league as tough fixtures. It was like this the year we went down. But we played well, but the stats say. Cooper didn't get his 1st choice signings did he as nobody wanted to come then he gets slated. Bilal has been a good find. Ayew has won us points. Facundo one of our best players who RVN dropped. We've lost 5 in a row now adrift. What more do people need to see.

Its a results game and a new manager losing 5 on the bounce is shocking can't belive its being defended on here. Yes cooper wasn't perfect he definately would have picked up more points in the last 5 games. RVN is getting us relegated if he stays. Can't waste another gane on him.

Trent Fofanna to come home from Chelsea. Salah. Haaland. That should do us nicely.

The table doesnt lie. We're the 18th placed team. Ahead of Ipswich and Southampton. Do we deserve to be ahead of anybody else. We've won 3 games and not sure I see us improving on that. Cooper was an odd appointment and doomed from the start. For all the positivity on here we've absolutely nose dived under Ruud in terms of results. 4 straight defeats now. A crucial game against a relegation rival we lost 3-0. 12 goals conceded. Scored once. We looked good against a thoroughly shaken man city in horrendous form, riddled with injuries on an unprecedented losing run matched only by us for poor form . We should have looked good and we should have won at home but we still lost 2-0. Stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. Ruud I'm not convinced by but he is at least changing in response to mistakess. The Wolves game needs to be made up for. Nice to see a plan and some nice sequences of play against Man City but think people are decieved by how absolutely woeful that man city side were. Expected a new manager bounce instead we're on a 4game losing streak. Playing ward was on him. Newcastle and wolves results on him. Every team has injuries this time of year. Its not realistic to think our first choice starting 11 will turn out each week, no team has that luxury except a couple of the big 6. Even Man city were playing their no2 goalkeeper and second choice cb pairing, rodri out injured. We're not an unlucky exception other teams are managing it and we haven't so far. We're not going to bring in fullbacks, wingers and a new striker on our budget that can slot straight into the starting 11 from day 1 so not that optimistic about the january transfer window turning it around. If Ruud learns from his many mistakes perhaps we knick 17th if wolves or West ham bannana skin. Honestly struggle to see it happening though. We needed Moyes. Except he probably didn't want or turned down the job.

We've conceded 12 goals in 4 games and think we've managed to score once. Given we will let 2-3 in do you think we're bagging a trio at villa park?

The cooper comment came from pure frustration at losing today. Your right it would be a strange universe. Still not convinced by RVN hope your right though and it is green shoots.

It's not the easiest deck of cards but all teams have injuries this time of year. Man city were absolutely riddled with injuries today for example. Its not just us having to improvise. Skipp is a 20million ex Tottenham international not exactly fresh out the academy. He chose to play Danny Ward which was a disaster when we had jacub. Why have we only just seen Facundo back starting and linking in well with bilal which we all knew he would. The subs are odd. These performances haven't been good enough. Apart from maybe Ipswich or southampton just where are we getting a result from? You don't play well and lose 2-0. When it mattered we made mistakes and our finishing was awful. Wolves was an unbelievable performance. Newcastle I wanted to cry. West Ham the first gane in charge with the players wanting to impress has been our only victory. It was ugly to watch but even cooper would have taken more points from the last 5 games. We're not playing well enough to stay up look at the results. Zero points in 4 games. Goal difference - 11

We've conceded 12 goals in 4 games and barely scored. Lost 2-0 to the only team with form as bad as ours who couldn't defend, riddled with injuries and low in confidence. Yes some nice sequences of play but pointless when the opposition are ahead with the pressure off. Hitting the post is just poor finishing. Think he's out his depth and it was completely the wrong situation for us to take a risk on a manager like him. It will be like this having the odd good performance (still losing 0-2) at home untill we are cut adrift and its too late. Our position in the table is dropping like a stone. The goals have dried up and we still cannot defend. This is supposed to be our season saving new manager bounce and we've lost 4 games on the run but its RVN who was a great player so the theory is we just wait because its all goibg to come good? The idea we get some new signings in January and it all clicks is delusional. All 20 teams will be looking to strengthen and our negotiations are from a place of weakness now. If it was a manager with a different name would we think this is going OK orv8s going to be Ok?

Yeah they are on the worst run of form in the league and if we can't do it today or against wolves or even bother to show up against Newcastle when does it happen. 0-2 loss at home. RVN fraud.

It's the hope that kills you. We've absolutely gifted them this win. It was their for the taking. Manure, villa, brighton all managed it.