urban.spaceman

I honestly don’t understand this attitude. The club has made terrible mistakes. As many clubs do. The consequence of that shouldn’t be to plummet from consistently and successfully competing at the top of the Premier League table and for domestic & European trophies, to even further restrictions on earnings and spending power, two relegations in 3 years, the forced selling off of assets for way below their value, the forced sale of home grown players, the further delaying of improving critical infrastructure like the stadium expansion which would have benefited the local community and economy, the persistent reputational harm done by two demonstrably corrupt leagues that directly influences our player and managerial recruitment choices; and the controlled decline over several seasons with no way out of it because a club owned by a multi billionaire with a proven track record of sustainable investment and success in the club and community was allegedly over some arbitrary spending line in T-3 or whatever bollocks they can come up with next. If Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, Man Utd or Spurs **** up with recruitment the most they’ll suffer is a few years away from being top 6 regulars. They’ve been given complete freedom from any consequences of their mistakes and indeed regular rule breaking - though it’s been nice to see Man Utd and Spurs failing on their own terms of late. We have not been given the luxury to fail on our own terms. Despite being the 6th most successful English club this millennium, we’ve lost everything because the Premier League chose to protect the 5 biggest clubs plus Tottenham instead of holding them accountable for anything. We as a fanbase should refuse to accept what the Premier League and EFL is attempting to do to us. We don’t deserve it by any stretch of the imagination and - while we should hold the club accountable for the mistakes they’ve made - we should be backing the club in the legal fight that we have already proven we are capable of winning. Because we are absolutely well within our rights to challenge the status quo on the pitch and off of it. As far as I can tell that’s the only way we’re going to get our future back, by fighting the powers that be for it.

Definitely not Liz Truss.

it’s time we brought in IQ tests for voting.

If only we were part of some sort of agreement that meant we could turn them around and deport them back to the last country they came from.

It's a fair cop. You've rumbled me.

Two things are true. The club has made some terrible mistakes over the last few years. Awful signings, ridiculous wages, failing to sack failing managers at the right time and making terrible choices in recruitment. The Premier League’s rules have explicitly restricted our earnings and constrained our spending power since winning the league. They failed to hold the Super League clubs accountable for far greater crimes than alleged “overspending”, and consistently changed the rules to punish “smaller” clubs for retrospective offences before those rules existed. They’ve broken their own rules multiple times while proving we have broken exactly none. Am I angry at the club’s many mistakes? **** yes. Do I believe they are solely responsible for our current situation? **** no. Not even close. The club spent money on players and wages under previous PSR rules that was entirely legal, sustainable and justified given our ambitions and achievements at the time. Yes, the players ended up being shit and contracts became very, very costly. But the club was thriving regardless - League Cup and Europa Conference semi finalists. FA Cup and Community Shield winners. Two seasons in the Top 3 until the very end. What changed was the tightening of the rules. The contracts we'd already given out to players made it impossible for us to adhere to the new limits unless we could get them out of the door quickly. But because of those rules, nobody would be willing to pay the same or more that we were. A breach was therefore inevitable and the club made the mistake of self-harming in an attempt to comply. Rules that the Premier League have admitted were poorly written. So poorly written that it is proven that we didn't actually break any of them. I want accountability within the club for the many mistakes but I strongly believe we should not be thrown into an existential crisis - which we are in now - with serious restrictions on getting out of it, because a demonstrably corrupt league wrote very poor rules, are implementing them differently against different clubs, not only refusing to hold other clubs accountable for worse crimes and changing the competition to be even more in their favour, but also breaking their own rules in a demented pursuit of a club that has already lost everything it had built. Read the article shared by @davieG above, and the ones I posted below his. Read the statements posted by the club after each case they won against the Premier League and the EFL. The club is fighting for our future and the right of all clubs to pursue their ambitions in fair competition. We have every right to do that, and hold the Premier League accountable to their own rules.

Thanks for sharing. Here's the original Martin Samuel article: https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/manchester-united-asia-tour-ruben-amorim-martin-samuel-gvwl9cbj0 https://archive.ph/amIX1#selection-1645.0-1648.0 Samuel only mentions us a couple of times but it's still an important read. It's extremely heartwarming to see Man Utd fail on their own terms when we haven't been given the same luxury. He also wrote this before we won the September case: https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/leicester-city-doomed-to-fail-under-premier-leagues-warped-logic-x9h2dm62f https://archive.ph/tEG0t The Premier League have broken the sport.

“It weren’t me it were the shitty PA’s fault” So who hired the shitty PA?!

Definitely not part of a pattern of hypocritical and dodgy behaviour then. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/30/robert-jenrick-faces-questions-over-funding-as-donor-comes-forward https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53158002 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/31/robert-jenrick-government-car-service-driving-ban

I will never, ever pay to watch football in this country while the status quo remains. British consumers are expected to pay three separate broadcasters for access to just over half the amount of matches being played. Consumers in other countries get to pay less than half that, to one broadcaster, for access to every single Premier League match - OR they can walk into any pub and watch it for the price of a beer. We as consumers are being ripped off. Worse, the broadcaster's selection policies are being used as an excuse to give the "bigger" clubs more airtime, and therefore more money in facility fees and even greater exposure to more lucrative sponsorship and merchandising deals. It's one of the many reasons we failed to progress after winning the league. We were the 5th highest earners that season and the selective broadcasting continued. It keeps the "big" clubs where they are. People are actually going to prison for making the Premier League accessible to people who want to access it. This has got to change. Pirate until it does.

Bollocks.

Maybe the club don’t have the heart to tell him he’s sacked and are just planning to sign a new manager and tell him to pretend Ruud isn’t there?

Thank you for sharing. Boney M is in my head now. Cheers.

I honestly think they're all happy just doing what they're doing. They've made as much money as they'll ever need before they were 25 and will have exorbitant residuals annually for the rest of their lives. They don't need to seek fame or major roles, they can choose whatever role tickles their fancy and avoid the publicity that will come with it. Radcliffe has made some brilliant choices over the years and put in some really solid performances.

THREE PERCENT ARE VERY SATISFIED ??????

Jesus H. Christ. https://archive.ph/URryB

We still get a bonus though, right?

https://variety.com/2025/biz/news/trump-responds-taco-trade-trump-always-chickens-out-tariff-threats-1236412080/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKkSFNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETBVQWEzRm5QMHI0R3MzdllJAR4rcv_5917peHzdqaI9K2CcjxNsDY3jWtRqYLi1jcVun1yHROIZnuOV5Q-78w_aem_tRnJXkFDs92KBKZCPxRtbg At a White House press briefing Wednesday, President Trump was asked about a new Wall Street term: The “TACO trade,” which stands for “Trump always chickens out” when it has come to carrying out his threats to impose high tariffs on foreign countries. Trump lashed out at the reporter. “Don’t ever say what you said. That’s a nasty question,” Trump said. “To me, that’s the nastiest question.”

Why's the thread hot? Is there news?

10 points for guessing the film.