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When the club sacked Terry Robinson this was the statement on the BBC website. Robinson was appointed in July 2013 with a remit to "provide strategic input to the club's football operations at all levels, driving the consistent implementation of the club's football philosophy". I can't believe Rudkin's remit would be essentially any different. I think the key for me is at all levels. I'd say he'd failed pretty much to do that. The consistent failure to get youth players out on decent loans is well documented on here. I'd say there is no cohesive football management within the club. There is no progressive path from youth team to first team. We've had managers of various age groups not seemingly in tune with each other. The high level of the fitness team assembled under Pearson seems to have been largely dismantled. The scouting set up appears to not function and we don't appear to be even active in various parts of the world, notably South America, where other teams have had success. He sanctioned the sale of Drinkwater (admittedly a decent sale for us) before securing his replacement in Silva which he failed to register by 14 seconds. Frankly he should have been sacked after that. The ultimate test to his success as a director of football can only lie on the pitch. Here again though we have enjoyed big successes we've failed in recent years resulting in one and probably a second relegation. This can only be judged as a failure and one which, as the person with overall responsibility for all things football at all levels, sits firmly on his desk. Unfortunately sacking him now will make little difference to this season as we've wasted two transfer windows completely unless tomorrow changes that. Highly unlikely to happen though. In his defence there have been some great times but his time at the club has run its course and he should go, if not now, at the end of the season. However, I doubt our owner has either the nous or balls to fire him.

How do you know he was actually on it? May be a ruse to cover up a night at a pole dancing club.

If this is correct he's not doing his future prospects any good by staying and basically throwing in the towel which is what it looked like yesterday. A strong manager would have taken off both centre backs after 6 minutes. I can't imagine how Alex Ferguson would have reacted to that first half performance but he sure as hell wouldn't have made zero subs at half time or even before.

I'm not comparing us to Luton. But relegation does not always mean guaranteed promotion. And yes I do think the squad is poor. You are only mentioning the potential first team. This squad has zero depth. Of those you list, Ricardo and Ndidi are hardly ever fit. Who knows if Fatawu will recover and Vardy will be gone. Coady isn't good enough and who knows regarding Okoli who probably won't want to be here. Plus we may be under a transfer embargo.

It isn't about losing it is about how you lose. Lose with pride and dignity and effort and fans will back the players even if disappointed. Lose in the manner of yesterday's woeful showing and players lose the goodwill and support of the fans. Once that happens it becomes very difficult to turn it round. Those players, yesterday, gave up. There are some who frankly should never play for us again. And of course people on hear react and overreact. It what being a football fan is about. Your club runs through your veins, into your heart and is a part of your life in the way that few other sporting teams are. People boo etc because they have spent their hard earned money, probably the equivalent to a few minutes work for some of these players, to travel to a game to see their team basically not bother to try, to give up. Maybe it isn't right but it is understandable.

If we played Leeds tomorrow they would win easily. The Championship is actually very competitive and you only have to look at the other side of the coin at Luton Town to see how relegation can go. We will go down with a worse squad than the one that got promoted last season. We sold on of our best players and will need to sell our keeper to raise funds not to breach the losses allowed in the Championship. We have ageing players on stupid length contracts and from what I can see precious few youngsters able to make the step up. Yesterday shows just how far we have fallen from just a couple of years ago. We are on a sharp downwards curve in terms of quality within the squad, a manager who won't be here next season and frankly a squad that is very poor.

Yes those two really stand out. Mind you for those of us who have been going a long time the list is pretty endless. The 1-0 defeat to non-league Harlow town was pretty bad. The defeat to Newport in the FA Cup under Puel another stand out moment. Hard to think of a good performance under Mclintock. But yesterday ranks among the worst considering the supposed standard of the players and the amount they get paid to be sh1t each week.

These lyrics from the Emptiness Machine would seem quite appropriate. Don't know why I'm hoping for what I won't receive Falling for the promise of the emptiness machine (The emptiness machine) Going around like a revolver It's been decided how we lose

Out of interest what did he say in the post match interview. Did he do one?

Coatsworth wasn't a very gifted player but at least he tried and put a shift in. probably on about a sixteenth of the wage too. Carey was, I acknowledge, abysmal.

I'd tell quite a few of them to find a new club in the next 24 hours as they won't be in the 25 man squad. And if they don't leave they will still be employed by us as the most expensive bar staff and hot dog sellers in the various concourses. Let them face the fans!

Bit like our other defenders then!

Have you recovered yet? I'm thinking of setting up a Leicester Supporters charity phone line for those struggling to come to terms with how awful we are.

Just think if you had left at 1-0 you could have saved yourself a lot of pain and anguish and probably got an entry into the Guiness Book of Records.

Another poor signing and waste of money and another who will probably leave at the end of his contract for free. Rudkin and the recruitment team have a lot to answer for in recent years.

He was yet another panic buy after the injury to Fofana. Should never have been signed in the first place.

Another total waste of time and money. Just add him to the list of recent terrible signings.

I've said exactly the same as this in the Faes thread but the same applies. He and his agent should be called in to the training ground tomorrow and told in no uncertain terms that he will never play for us again and will not be registered in the 25 man squad and that his agent should do whatever it takes to find him a new club in the next 24 hours. I rather Okoli and Coady. Both might be hopeless but I do think both would at least try. if there was any way they could be sacked for continual underperforming they should be. Both were a total disgrace today and have been many times. I never want to see either play for us ever again.

he and his agent should be called in to the training ground tomorrow and told in no uncertain terms that he will never play for us again and will not be registered in the 25 man squad and that his agent should do whatever it takes to find him a new club in the next 24 hours. I rather Okoli and Coady. Both might be hopeless but i do think both would at least try.

Why not? Are we really saying there's no manager out there who could at least get us organised and at least try to make us harder to beat? Amazingly we are still not down, though I do think it likely but whilst there's hope we need to consider the best way to go and for me it clearly is not RVN.

At least under Pleat they tried but we just had some pretty poor players. The Mclintock year was the worst ever. By far the worst side we've had in the top league and one where there are similarities to this year in that we signed ageing players who were either past it or not good enough and a manager who was clueless. The 5-0 defeat at home to Bolton under Taylor is about the worst performance I think I've seen. But this season ranks for the most prideless of them all I think. These players have basically given up and that isn't acceptable.

Pretty much the perfect summary.

There's another 11 on the pitch who don't seem to either!

No but at least he would organise us into a team that might be harder to beat. RVN won't do either.

There's just no jeopardy for footballers though is there. let's be honest if we all performed at our work as badly as they are almost every week, we'd be sacked. Yet the only person who gets sacked is the manager. Time players could be sacked as well.