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Absolutely nails it. Trouble is we are now in a very difficult position to make the changes I think, many on here, would like to see. I think it is really impractical to really replace both your DOF and first team manager and their coaches at the same time. Yet that is probably what really needs to happen. Getting a good DOF could take months, especially if that person has to give notice in a current position. Also as a largely absent owner Top needs a DOF that he can trust and this is where the problems start in my opinion. Top relies on people that his father knew and employed and it is hard to give up those people and replace them with others you don't know as well or at all. Truth is it is easy for us on here to say it but much harder to do in reality. Though I'm not advocating it shouldn't be done. It is also clear that things off the pitch are not right either, take the shirt sponsorship deal for eg. yet i think these issues probably need to be parked for a bit as the problems on the pitch are far greater. There must be serious doubts regarding Glover as head of recruitment too. Of course you can only operate with what resources you are given but a lot of the trouble lies with poor recruitment. Personally I think we need a manager who can buy into a long term project, in the way that Pearson did for eg. The DOF needs to be working now to involve player's agents and to frankly tell them that their player either does or does not have a future at the club. There needs to be much more effort to off load players who don't want to be at the club. Though, of course, their opinions might change depending on the manager appointed. To be honest I wouldn't want to be in Top's shoes. He can either make no changes at all and hope things turn round and risk the situation deteriorating or he can make decisions which will be personally difficult for him. I'm not holding my breath the latter will happen.

Don't know how they will manage. 35% off 80K. I know I'd struggle. Should be more like 75% after this season and then they'd still be earning good money.

Apart from the occasional mess up, as per Silva, there has been some success under his watch but, he's now basically overseen the decline of the club back to the level it was when Pearson took over for the second time. Except that we have no squad cohesion and little talent. Two relegations in 3 seasons should be enough to see the end of most DOFs but I doubt he will go anywhere.

I doubt that many inside the ground will even notice unfortunately. The only real protests which tend to work are those that deprive the club of money. The trouble is that the fans are largely insignificant these days in terms of income streams for the clubs. really it is all about Tv and sponsorship deals. So it is hard for fans to get their voices heard. Whilst organisations such as Foxes trust are, of course, worthy adventures, how much real difference do they make at any club?

It will be interesting to see what happens after today's match. Presuming we get the expected defeat, probably without scoring, then relegation will be confirmed. He is currently tied in last but one position with Dave Bassett for the lowest win percentage rate of any Leicester manager since the WWI. Only McClintock has a lower win rate and those of us who suffered through that season really hoped never to witness anything like it again. Yet here we are with arguably an even worse season though not all of that lies with the current manager. Even if we win a couple of games between now and the end of the season they will be largely meaningless as the pressure will be completely off. His position is surely untenable by any normal reasoning. The only reasons I can see for not sacking him already are money and the hubris of the owner.

Come on. Whilst PRS is a problem Top's hands are far from tied. He just doesn't seem to want to do anything about anything. He's the owner of the club he could make decisions which have nothing to do with finance which would clearly be beneficial to the club. We're going to be relegated for the 2nd time in three seasons, the squad is a complete mess, the manager is useless, the DOF is clearly not up to the job, the recruitment team is quite obviously failing to recruit the right type and quality of player required. Off field revenue streams are insufficient, the CEO, who has done good things in the past is now past their sell by date frankly. The players have too much power and are on ridiculous contracts and we've failed to sell on a lot of talent which cost a lot of money and raised zero for them. There looks to be a lack of respect for the club, the manager and a general bad atmosphere around the club. A great deal of this could be tackled if the owner grew some balls and had the courage to change the way the club is run from top to bottom. We've lost a lot of talented people from within the recruitment team and the fitness team. We're basically rudderless drifting along out of control. Too many bad decisions have been made by the same people over and over again yet nothing happens to them. It isn't all about money. It is about the direction and identity of the club, proper engagement with the fans, admitting mistakes have been made, learning from them and making decisions based on what you learn. there was a time, not so long ago, when we were held up as a shining example of what could happen when a club is well run from top to bottom. Now we've lost our sense of identity as a club both on and off the pitch and we've become a laughing stock with some of the media, a club dependent upon clever legal representation rather than sound and inspiring management.

I'm not disagreeing with you though I do think the so-called "spine" of the team will need to be seriously addressed. We've a couple of players out with long term injury who may play a part if they recover fully but I think there's a fair chance some of those currently here will leave. Whilst they have been poor this season they were decent last season, players like Winks, For eg, can see him going.

Agree. Pontus was one of the best and classiest defenders we've had play for us ever. He could play all across the back line and his performance in the league Cup final for us was not only superb but was one of the main reasons we won the cup that day.

Any well run club would be looking now a the direction it needs to go. Apart from the much needed financial side of things this has been a sobering and frankly painful season. We need quite a big rebuild and for me a whole restructuring of the football side from youth team to first 11. I'm not well enough informed to know who that might be but what we don't want is a stop gap manager just to get us back up but one with a wide philosophy that starts with decent discipline and raising of standards all the way through the club. Above all we need an owner to get a grip of the club and to stop fantasizing about us playing like Man City. Perhaps start with trying to win the fans over with simple entertainment and players that actually look like they want to be here and actually look like they are trying.

Well this really depends on what the make up of that 11 will be. We have some decent players at that level but several may be sold in the summer. Certainly think our keeper will go, Vardy probably retire and we don't really have another striker as I'm not sure Daka will cut it even at that level and may indeed leave.

I agree he has to go but the choice right now is limited. Clubs do not want to part with successful managers this late in the season. Maybe the options would be better and wider in the summer?

Surprised you can get any odds at all frankly. Just parking the 0 goals in the last five it is just 3 goals in the league since Christmas with 2 of those in one game. 11 shots on target in the last 5 games = one every 41 minutes (some may have different stat), and this doesn't include all the added on time at the end of each half so it is even worse than this.

We've had some very good Scottish players but McAllister is definitely one of the best. Made the game look very easy at times, almost as if he wasn't trying. For me Lennon would be the NI pick way over Taggert for eg but a quiet shout out to Derek Dougan who had a good couple of years with us. Savage beats King hands down for Wales. just a better player in all respects really. King was ok but Savage actually made a difference to us on the pitch. We'd have been a different team without his energy.

Nothing in the whole world is that bad.

It really doesn't matter who he picks none of them are good enough and all have their detractors on here so whatever he tries to do will be wrong. We've been completely stuffed this season by yet another round of terrible recruitment both in managers and players. Can we even score a goal?

Coulibally looks like a competition winner who can't believe his good fortune most of the time and wouldn't be out of place two divisions below where we are now.

Have you posted on here rather than on another team's message board? I'm no longer sure we know what that entails.

I don't think that would be an unpopular view at all. I'm just not certain that it would work and lead to peace. Thanks to Trump the world is now a much much more dangerous one than it was just a few months ago. His appeasement of Russia and desire to take the US along an isolationist route, unless there is some money grabbing rip off deal to be done to line the US's pockets, surely emboldens China to think they could attack Taiwan without American interference. It think we should all be worried that history is in effect in danger of repeating itself on a 100 year cycle. In 1839 Britain, along with other nations, signed the Treaty of London which was done to guarantee Belgian sovereignty and the refusal of German to withdraw troops from Belgium was used as the final pretext for Britain to declare war in August 1914. 100 years later in March 1939 the Uk along with France promised to guarantee the same for Poland. Both of these were followed by brutal world wars. I can't really see how such an agreement for Ukraine, which I think is what might be being suggested right now would lead anywhere but to eventual war with Russia, especially, if, as seem pretty certain, the US would not be interested in supporting. And of course the US was little interested in both wars and took several years to join. In fact the UK debt for money borrowed from the US in WWi was not finally paid off until 2017. We defaulted in 1934 as the debt owed was so great. The BBC quotes the following. ‘In 1934, Britain owed the US $4.4 billion of World War I debt (about £866 million at 1934 exchange rates). Adjusted by the Retail Price Index, a typical measure of inflation, £866 million would equate to £40 billion now, and if adjusted by the growth of Gross Domestic Product, to about £225 billion’. Indeed we took 60 years to finally pay back the WWII debt owed to the US. The escalation in production of weapons and equipment as well as personnel required now to redress the decline of the last 20+ years is going to stretch our finances to the limit. Trump is interested in only two things, his own ego, and money. He's a bully and a coward and one with no understanding or interest in the rest of the world unless there is a financial deal to be done. The best worldwide response to him would be a complete boycott of everything American from walnuts to cars etc etc.

Doubt we'd get our money back for him as things stand so think he will stay unless he or his agent try to force a move through. He's got promise but not shown enough for a big transfer yet.

The dog is frankly a non-story. He was given permission to have it the training ground by the club as a one-off. What is more worrying is that this article highlights that all is not settled within the club. Not even the disagreements, which, to a certain extent, are normal in workplace environments. But, more that this stuff has been leaked to the press and that the press feel the need to "big up" the story to make an article. If all was well and the club doing even OK on the pitch then this sort of story would not even make the papers. Moreover, we don't even really need this sort of article to highlight what we can all see. The results and the performances all indicate that the standards off the pitch are not what they should be and lead to suspicions that the players simply have no respect for the club. Frankly I'm not at all surprised to read this sort of stuff, it goes with the territory of any sinking ship.

I'm trying to think calmly but have to say that was the second match running where the performance of the team just wasn't good enough. I don't mind losing but it is quite clear that this set of players have essentially given up. They are not trying and it is a disgrace. The very least I expect is some effort but there just isn't any. I've followed the club for many years now, seen a lot of games and lot of poor performances. However, I don't think I've often seen a team who put in such little effort collectively as this lot. Not something I say lightly or often but most are not fit to represent our great club. We are down. The manger is clueless, the owner absent and out of his depth, the DOF incompetent, the head of recruitment useless. If a player came out tonight held his hand up and said I'm ashamed of that performance I'd, at least, admire their honesty. But we all know they won't. If I was the owner, I'd sack the manager tonight swiftly followed by the head of recruitment and the DOF. I'd then call in each and every player's agent and tell them that they won't be playing for us again and to find their client a new club. I'd genuinely rather see the youth team getting beaten every week for they might at least try. The first team squad not only lacks talent but also lacks any essence of pride of playing for Leicester City. It is clear some don't want to be here and the sooner most of them leave the club the better.

If true I'd say that's 60 million too much for this bunch of wasters.

I'm genuinely interested to know what you have seen in his managerial performance so far that gives any confidence at all that he can be an effective manager for us. As to working with his own players; how many would that be? Another 2, another 4, another 6, another 8? Whilst I'd agree we have not backed him in the last transfer window I don't see anything that gives me hope that things would be any better if we had. His post match interview with the BBC on Friday basically revealed that he has given up. Full of the "gap" between us and the likes of Brentford being unbridgeable. His side's performance pretty much backed that up. Truth is terrible financial mismanagement followed by two terrible manager appointments and very poor recruitment has left us in the mess we are in. RVN was a gamble and one which has backfired spectacularly.

I'm afraid if you look through history very little change occurs by people doing nothing and just accepting things as they are.

It is spot on. RVN's interview is also revealing. It is quite clear to see that; A; He has no clue what to do B; he has basically acknowledged publicly and presumably to himself that the gap between us and sides like Brentford is too big to bridge right now. A basic admission that the situation is hopeless for our own manager.