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I thought the two instances were as good as identical. To give a pen for one and not the other was gross inconsistency.

Any manager worth his salt would tell the DOF to f off and ignore him.

Leicester don't turn up for ANY matches. You'll be fine.

The way to go ... so it won't be anything like this.!

That's a worry. I wonder whether they could turn to some insightful past players for advice? Schmeichel is the most obvious one.

But not a lot ...

Thanks for the clarification. It's certainly interesting, and gives some hope for the end of this season.

I can't get my head round this. If he wanted to leave, why didn't he just leave?

But he was in the team that beat W Ham. Just saying ...

What level of money are you suggesting? Surely it doesn't compare with what we're paying our current pros?

The problem is that we overpay for rubbish.

But if he's on the bench there's a possibility of him getting on the pitch.

Watched Calvin Bassey today. Competent Prem CB - fast, solid, good positioning & awareness; and he chips in with the odd goal. It sucks to see him with Fulham as compared with the dross we have at CB. Castagne had a solid game too.

And yet he could be in our next match. All it takes is for him to be selected. How frustrating to know what a talent is being ignored.

I felt that Bilal and Buenanotte were ineffective last night ... not through any fault of their own nor for lack of effort. In past matches there've been spells where we've put together some good intricate bits of forward-going interplay, usually involving them, but it was absent last night. My explanation is that there was even less cohesion and purpose and resolve in the team last night so it was a bit like passing into the wind for our two more enterprising young stars. The more they tried, the more they came up against brick walls, and they ended up trying to do too uch themselves. Such a barren environment in which to develop good young prospects like them.

I noticed that too. I was disgusted!

Sorry, but can show no respect for fans who spend (waste ) a lot of time & money travelling to watch such dross. If they didn't do it then the penny might drop with the club management much sooner. In fact, think what a loud statement it would make if there wasn't a single home fan at the next home game. Something even our management couldn't continue to ignore.

"We are going down, the club made that decision in January" That implies there is some football knowledge within the club management. I doubt it!

But can you endure game after game like this till the end of the season?

Is it really that bad?

Agreed we don't ... we need to work at it to earn our place. I went over the top there, but I was trying to counter those who say we don't deserve anything better because our rightful place is as a yo-yo club and anything else is overreaching ourselves.

You present no evidence for this view. I'm a fan from the 50s. Am gutted at the decline in the club over the last 4/5 years. I also believe in continual progress in the club and was very annoyed that some had the attitude that we were achieving above our level and should be grateful for the recent tropies. I feel we have had such a wasted opportunity. Hopefully a reset will come about , even if it takes a few years, and we will regain our rightful place in the upper echelons of the game.

Just looking at that team, you could arguably improve on that now with Coulibaly at RB, and maybe even McAteer or VK replaced, but for me the key ingredient is Coady & Vesty as the CB pairing. Hard to see how that worked, and I think it's hardly been tried since, but obviously it did work in that game so why not try it again?

Maybe. We're had our share of duds recently, and anyone coming in has such a mess to sort out, that it's hard to know what's the right way to go. I almost feel sorry for Top

Mads JJ Coady Vesty VK Ndidi Soumare Bilal McAteer Buenanotte JV is our starting XI that somehow beat West Ham 3-1 earlier, under Ruud, I think. How did we manage that? Even Daka came on and scored later. Could we repeat it with a similar side? Notable the CB pairing; not tried for a while.