Code of a Killer - Colin Pitchfork

[Guest Col city fan]

I grew up in narborough, although very young I have strong memories of the second murder and the hysteria it caused.

It was I guess, a frightening time but I was unaffected as I didn't really know much different, it was only as I had got older, that the enormity of it dawned. Right up to the age of sixteen my parents forbidden me to use the black pad and ten pound lane on my own, and my sisters were chaperoned everywhere (and still are, lazy fecks).

It's still felt by people who live/lived in the village now, so how it felt for the parents I can't even begin to imagine, I hope the monster doesn't get out.

Spot on Strokes...

Certain things can happen to a community which affects it completely. And the effects never wear off.

This was one of them.

[pSinatra]

I have nothing but sympathy for the families & anyone directly affected by the 2 murders.  They probably think about what happened every day of their lives & I would be exactly the same.

 

I grew up in Narborough village & although I now live in a village a couple of miles away, I still consider Narborough my 'home'.  My parents still live in the same house & my sister lives in Narborough village too - a few minutes walk from both murder scenes.  I was the same age as Dawn (I'm 43 years old now) & I knew her.  I remember that time like it was yesterday.......despite it being nearly 30 years ago.

 

I don't mean to sound unsympathetic in any way, but I feel there is an unhealthy interest in clinging onto the past, particularly by people unassociated with the 2 girls or their families.  As I have already said, there was a terrible atmosphere in Narborough & surrounding villages.  For several years we all lived in fear, every man was a suspect & nobody felt safe.  Whilst we should never forget Lynda or Dawn, we need to move on.

 

Narborough is not the same place it was & the community spirit is nothing like it was either.  Narborough, Enderby & Littlethorpe must be at least double the size they once were, people have moved away & Narborough village often feels like nothing more than a car park for Narborough train station at times.  Growing up, I couldn't walk through the village without recognising just about everyone I saw.  That's no longer the case.

 

I don't resent the change, but I do find it a little bizarre that every time there is mention of Colin Pitchfork being paroled everyone seems to lose their minds.  Obviously, there are those who will be directly affected by this & they have my sympathy,  But there are those that had little involvement, didn't even live here or weren't even born.  I don't have any particular feelings on the matter.  Of course what he did was despicable, but I can't do anything about what happened or what will happen.  I have to trust in the relevant authorities to do what is right within the law & with respect to the families involved.  But people seem to work themselves into a frenzy at the mention of a possible release......like there is any chance he is will be returning to Narborough.

 

Some of the comments I have seen & heard (not on here, but Facebook & people in the area), it's like people want to cling onto the past & want to be offended.  I guess that's human nature - it's not like this is the only example.  I find it unhealthy.

[Strokes]

Incidentally, I went to school with his son, he was in the back of his car for the first murder. We weren't particularly pleasant to him I'm ashamed to say, I'm amazed his mother didn't move him away.

[pSinatra]

Incidentally, I went to school with his son, he was in the back of his car for the first murder. We weren't particularly pleasant to him I'm ashamed to say, I'm amazed his mother didn't move him away.

 

He worked in the Narborough Arms for a while.  He got a ridiculous amount of abuse from the local neanderthals.  Without many years of conditioning at school, I don't think he would have coped as well as he did.

[Strokes]

He worked in the Narborough Arms for a while. He got a ridiculous amount of abuse from the local neanderthals. Without many years of conditioning at school, I don't think he would have coped as well as he did.

Yeah I remember him in the arms, it wasn't really pleasant. Where are you living now Sinatra? I go back to narborough quite often to drink with friends and family, I could buy you a pint.

[pSinatra]

Yeah I remember him in the arms, it wasn't really pleasant. Where are you living now Sinatra? I go back to narborough quite often to drink with friends and family, I could buy you a pint.

 

Don't go in the Arms much these days.  Can't remember the last time.  I'm always in Narborough though.  My sister lives down the road at the side of Kap's (there's another story!!) & my folks live up near Greystokes.  I live in Cosby village now opposite the Bulls Head.  Just a short stagger home.

 

I drink in The Clarendon mostly, as I used to live round the corner & most my mates live in the area.  Still trying to work out who the famous Sir Alf Bentley is?

 

If the missus lets me out.........a pint or two would be good

[Strokes]

Don't go in the Arms much these days.  Can't remember the last time.  I'm always in Narborough though.  My sister lives down the road at the side of Kap's (there's another story!!) & my folks live up near Greystokes.  I live in Cosby village now opposite the Bulls Head.  Just a short stagger home.

 

I drink in The Clarendon mostly, as I used to live round the corner & most my mates live in the area.  Still trying to work out who the famous Sir Alf Bentley is?

 

If the missus lets me out.........a pint or two would be good

Nice, well I drink in Cosby on occasion too. I'll drop you a PM next time I'm heading down that way.

[Alf Bentley]

Don't go in the Arms much these days.  Can't remember the last time.  I'm always in Narborough though.  My sister lives down the road at the side of Kap's (there's another story!!) & my folks live up near Greystokes.  I live in Cosby village now opposite the Bulls Head.  Just a short stagger home.

 

I drink in The Clarendon mostly, as I used to live round the corner & most my mates live in the area.  Still trying to work out who the famous Sir Alf Bentley is?

 

If the missus lets me out.........a pint or two would be good

 

 

Never meet your heroes, Frank. They always disappoint you. 

 

No, seriously, would gladly share a pint or two some time. Think Fred Flintstone and you might spot me. Introduce yourself , if you do. Do you have a lookalike I can look out for? Frank Sinatra, maybe?

 

I think you said that you're normally in there Saturday afternoon, which I'm not - except sometimes after an LCFC match for the Saturday 5.30pm TV game. Otherwise, it tends to be early weekday evenings, escaping from the house (I work from home).

I'm generally very unsociable in the Clarendon, I'm ashamed to say, and sometimes go in the back bar. Partly because I'm either watching football or winding down after work, partly because there are a hell of a lot of bores in that pub - you're obviously not one of them, though. Do you promise not to tell "hilarious" stories about how in 1978 some bloke I've never met snuck past the DMH bouncers to get into a gig for free. I've heard that one at least 10 times!

 

I'm not likely to be in there much for the next week or two, though:

(a) Because I've been in too much recently, got steaming in there on Friday and have some domestic penance to do (1 week in the doghouse should cover it).

(b) I've a ridiculous array of extended family problems to stay sober for (deceased mother, ailing father, difficult brother, irresponsible debt-machine nephew, shaky marriage, ailing business, 2 bonkers sister-in-laws.....daughter's the only non-problem, when she's supposed to be the main focus!).

 

I've long lost the "Sir", btw. One of Zingari's last acts before buggering off was to encourage that. A bit of humility does us all good occasionally! (The real Alf Bentley was an ex-Gillingham keeper, but more importantly the greatest ever manager of Folkestone Town, in case you're curious).

[Rincewind]

I was wondering where the name came from myself.and Fred Flintstone is very apt.

[Out Foxed]

nice to see some other clareh frequenters

[pSinatra]

Yeah Strokes.  PM me the next time.  I can be there in 20 seconds.

 

Your Grace, I mean Alf.  Think I may have promoted you to nobility there?  I'm trying to picture Fred Flintstone & it's not ringing any bells.  Or is it you look like John Goodman?  I'll certainly keep an eye out for you.  To be honest, I'm not the biggest drinker but if I do it's generally the Clazz.  I don't resemble Frank - my name is a character from a 1984 comedy about a sex starved college student destined to die a virgin until he sells his soul for a piece of ass (his words, not mine).  On more than one occasion I have been likened to David Essex.  I'm not proud of either.

 

I know what you mean about it being full of bores, but like you, I tend to keep myself to myself.  Watch the scores come in & enjoy a few pints.  I don't think I've seen a female in there (excluding Vicky) since 2004.  Can't think why?

 

Sounds like you could do with a pint or two, but not too many eh?  I remember you saying you were on the wagon, but then saw you have a drunken pop at Invincible, Nags Head, or whatever he's calling himself on here..........& then apologised.  A noble gesture.

 

Come back Alan Latchley you cruel mistress.

[Alf Bentley]

I'm trying to picture Fred Flintstone & it's not ringing any bells.  Or is it you look like John Goodman?  I'll certainly keep an eye out for you.  To be honest, I'm not the biggest drinker but if I do it's generally the Clazz.  I don't resemble Frank - my name is a character from a 1984 comedy about a sex starved college student destined to die a virgin until he sells his soul for a piece of ass (his words, not mine).  On more than one occasion I have been likened to David Essex.  I'm not proud of either.

 

Sounds like you could do with a pint or two, but not too many eh?  I remember you saying you were on the wagon, but then saw you have a drunken pop at Invincible, Nags Head, or whatever he's calling himself on here..........& then apologised.  A noble gesture.

 

Had to Google Goodman, but you could be onto something there. Put it this way, I always remembered the line about Long John Silver having "a face like a ham".

 

David Essex?! I've not seen any 1970s gypsy dreamboats down the boozer! If so, my Mum fancied you in 1973....  

But maybe you're the gnarled old 2015 version?

 

I was on the wagon for more than 6 months and enjoying it, but circumstances meant the sober life became too much of a grind. The drunken life is becoming too much of a grind now, though. Did Tony Blair ever find that mystical "third way"?

 

Anyway, better stop hijacking this thread for people who enjoy discussing hideous murders.

[Buce]

I was on the wagon for more than 6 months and enjoying it, but circumstances meant the sober life became too much of a grind. The drunken life is becoming too much of a grind now, though. Did Tony Blair ever find that mystical "third way"?.

You could try chillin' with a spliff, Alf..

[johnny the fox]

Served his time, if he is released I'll have a pint in the old inn with him.

don't take your daughter with you...